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Installing Puppy linux on HP compaq
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drams1

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Location: Bloomington IN

PostPosted: Wed 03 Sep 2014, 13:16    Post subject:  Installing Puppy linux on HP compaq
Subject description: Install hangs
 

I have HP Compaq desk top with AMD Athlon xp processor and 2 gb of memory on ASUS A7N8X-LA mother board. Purchased in 2004. I downloaded copy of Lucid Puppy linux 5.2.8 and burned into CD. When I loaded it stalled and would not boot. I then downloaded Slacko Puppy Linux 5.7. Also burned into cd and still could not boot. Is my computer too old?

I didn't really understand the errors the first time it saw on message that a sector could not be read. The second try I saw a panic error.
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starhawk

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Sep 2014, 13:22    Post subject:  

Your computer is not too old.

At the boot: prompt, type puppy pfix=ram (just like that) and tell us what happens.

Sector cannot be read... sounds like you need a new hard drive, but on the initial boot that shouldn't matter. The other error sounds like a kernel panic -- not sure what would cause that. Maybe echoes of the dying drive? Dunno.

Do you hear clicking noises when it tries to access the hard drive? ("Searching for Puppy files...")

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drams1

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Sep 2014, 15:07    Post subject:  

I tried to type puppy-pfix+ram but key strokes were not recorded on screen.

Below boot:
on screen: load umlinuz... afer 30 or so seconds, got EDD:Error 8000 reading sector 80641 , then sector 81187,
Then uncompression error, system halted
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Fossil

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Sep 2014, 15:52    Post subject:  

Is there already any operating system on the hard drive? Has the drive shown any previous signs of failing?
What sort of keyboard is connected - PS2 or USB? As it appears not to function on first boot, have you tried the keyboard on another computer?
Is the memory working and well seated?
As for the boot disk. How did you burn it; using what program, on what operating system? Is this a normal CD, DVD or rewritable disc?
If there is a hint of a bad burn, and you are using Windows to create the disc, I'd suggest using BurnCDCC http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads/burncdcc.zip
All these questions may or may not contribute to an answer.
PS. It's puppy pfix=ram NOT with a plus sign +
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drams1

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Sep 2014, 16:22    Post subject:  

I have been trouble shooting this computer for a few days. I have installed a new hard drive which I thought was good and was able to install a fresh windows xp with difficulty because I get random blue screen errors that stops install. I have tested memory with memtest and disconnected everything and reconnected in attempt to determine any bad components.

Keyboard is PS2. I have tried booting on another computer that is running and could not get it to boot with Peggy Linux.

I burned to boot disc with NERO, Burn image to disk utility. I can try burning with program you suggested.

In my note to myself I did not have plus between puppy and pfix. Did not get character on screen so of course didn't enter.

I am new to Puppy Linux and someone has suggested that it could help me verify or perhaps find to cause of the blue screen errors. At this point I am not sure how but I am grasping and straws.
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starhawk

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Sep 2014, 16:26    Post subject:  

That hard drive is burnt toast. If it's throwing sector read errors, it's shot.

Your keyboard also needs replacing.

Just curious, where are you located?

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drams1

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Sep 2014, 16:43    Post subject:  

I burned image using cdcc as suggested and tried booting again with no success. Here is what I got on screen:
boot:
EDD: error 8000 reading sector 80541

Invalid or corrupt kernel image
boot:

Any other suggestions?
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Sep 2014, 16:45    Post subject:  

Try Boxpup 431.
That was my number-1 Puppy when I was using a HP Compaq desktop made about 2004.
It was a touch of class.
Oops, the ISO file is no longer available at that location.
I have the ISO file.
Will try to upload it here.
That failed. Crying or Very sad
OK, I've uploaded my copy of the file to a hosting site.
Get puppy-boxpup-431.iso here
Below is the md5sum of the ISO file here on my PC:
md5sum = 30cc7611479877a9c0317477764acaa7 puppy-boxpup-431.iso
The md5sum of the downloaded ISO file should be the same.
Make sure you burn the iso to the optical disk [CD-RW is good] as an IMAGE, not as a file.
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Sep 2014, 17:15    Post subject:  

Sylvander, et al, it's blindingly obvious --at least to me-- that he's not going to get a good boot until he cans that hard drive. It's messing up the whole process. He's also got to get another keyboard -- Puppy isn't that useful when you can't type!

drams1, can you please at least disconnect the power and data cables for that hard drive and try to boot without it? If that is successful, my next step would be to find a replacement for that keyboard. Again -- where do you live? (State/province and country, please. I don't need the whole address!)

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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Sep 2014, 18:41    Post subject:  

Specs:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c00006476

http://www.elhvb.com/ctechinfo/model/a7n8x-la/explorer2.php

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00006476&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=364168

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I'd suggest using BurnCDCC

At no more than 32 speed....because >> HP Compaq put in the
cheapest rubbish burners in their PCs.

Used keyboards here in OZ can be purchased for $5.00

Sometimes new ones for the same price.

At least disconnect the hard drive.....
after removing the mains power cord from your pc.

Touch the side of the chassis...metal sides...
so that you have no static electricity moments.

Boxpup should be OK as well.

Welcome to Puppy.....Chris.
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Sep 2014, 19:13    Post subject:  

A good alternative I used when my hard disk was planning to suicide, was to boot from a USB pendrive.

If the PC can't boot directly from USB, use PLOP from a CD or even a floppy.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Boot-from-usb-on-an-old-pc-without-modding-the-BIO/

Saludos.

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Sep 2014, 19:40    Post subject:  

Galbi, that won't make a difference here. His computer is trying to search the hard drive, which is totally fried, and when it gets back junk the boot process dies.

He has to physically disconnect the drive or he's SOL.

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Galbi


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PostPosted: Wed 03 Sep 2014, 19:48    Post subject:  

starhawk wrote:
Galbi, that won't make a difference here. His computer is trying to search the hard drive, which is totally fried, and when it gets back junk the boot process dies.

He has to physically disconnect the drive or he's SOL.


Yes, that is what I did.

I haven't pointed that but I disconnected HD power and booted from the pendrive (bah, first from PLOP)

I used the PC that way for several month, then in my e-trash I found a HD supposed to be died, but not it's still alive and kicking.

I have 3 pendrives and are all bootable (different Puppys), just in case... Smile

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Sep 2014, 20:03    Post subject:  

Ah, OK. It's important to know that.
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FeodorF


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PostPosted: Wed 03 Sep 2014, 21:59    Post subject:  

A quick ref. manual (18 pages) is right there:

www.elhvb.com/mboards/oem/hp/manual/focus_manual.pdf

www.elhvb.com/mboards/oem/hp/manual/explorer2_manual.pdf
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