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radky

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jul 2017, 11:08    Post subject:  

smokey01 wrote:
Was it packaged with xz compression?

Hi smokey01,

My ListDD-2.0 pet is gz compressed for compatibility with old and new Pups. It seems musher0 repackaged with xz compression.

Over the years, when downloading directly with Firefox, I've noticed corrupt downloads from various sites including your server. I recall others on the forum have described similar problems when downloading with the Firefox and Opera browsers. However, I have no problems when downloading with Pwsget or Uget.

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jul 2017, 14:11    Post subject:  

smokey01 wrote:
Was it packaged with xz compression?
HI Smokey.

Yes. Why do you ask? It is a valid option for pet archives, isn't?

@radky:
You say it's some browsers' protocol. I don't know.

You do splendid work. However I have to install my peazip every time to
unpack your pet archives.

It's become reflex now: "Wow, radky published a great new script? Quick,
where's my Peazip!" Laughing

There's no harm in that. As long as the monkey (aka "moi") knows how
to peel the banana!!!

I sincerely hope you have a sense of humor... or I'm in big trouble! Wink

BFN.

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jul 2017, 19:35    Post subject:  

radky wrote:
smokey01 wrote:
Was it packaged with xz compression?

Hi smokey01,

My ListDD-2.0 pet is gz compressed for compatibility with old and new Pups. It seems musher0 repackaged with xz compression.

Over the years, when downloading directly with Firefox, I've noticed corrupt downloads from various sites including your server. I recall others on the forum have described similar problems when downloading with the Firefox and Opera browsers. However, I have no problems when downloading with Pwsget or Uget.


@radky, I thought those previous problems turned out to be incompatible compression like xz which many pups didn't have a few years back.

musher0 wrote:
Yes. Why do you ask? It is a valid option for pet archives, isn't?

Xz is now but it was a bit rare in early pups.

If anyone is having problems downloading from my site I would like to hear about.

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jul 2017, 21:18    Post subject:  

@smokey01,

As I recall, it was several years ago that I noticed corrupted downloads with Firefox. Maybe it was due to issues with my ISP, or interrupted downloads and the lack of resume in Firefox. Anyway, no problems with your server in the last few years. Thanks for your great service to the Puppy community. Smile

@musher0,

1 - I downloaded and installed your Puduan-6.0.0-wmx-alpha1a.iso
2 - Using the built-in Links browser I downloaded several Pupmates from the smokey01 server and each installed correctly via a single click of the pet in ROX-Filer.
3 - After installing Firefox, I downloaded and installed additional pets with no problems.

I wonder if you might consider testing another Puppy other than Puduan, to see if your problem persists. Maybe boot a pristine copy of BK's Quirky and use Seamonkey to download and install one of the PupMates?

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jul 2017, 21:48    Post subject: ListDD-2.0
Subject description: Spanish translation
 

Here's a Spanish translation for ListDD-2.0
listdd.mo.gz
Description  Rename to listdd.mo
gz

 Download 
Filename  listdd.mo.gz 
Filesize  6.12 KB 
Downloaded  25 Time(s) 
Screenshot_2017-07-17_22.42.30.png
 Description   
 Filesize   39.13 KB
 Viewed   181 Time(s)

Screenshot_2017-07-17_22.42.30.png


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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jul 2017, 22:54    Post subject:  

smokey01 wrote:
If anyone is having problems downloading from my site I would like to hear about.
Honestly, I almost never get a clean download from your site. Most pets arrive here as - seemingly corrupted - "gz" files. I once discussed this problem with a forum member but can't find the thread. Anyway, seems to be a problem with the mime sniffing of my Opera browser. After all pets are corrupted by design (the attached checksum is what gzip aptly calls "garbage") and may cause the browser to get confused.

Interestingly Firefox also gets it wrong and guesses pet files to be of type ASC. Consequently Firefox offers as option to open the file with a text viewer. Good luck! Fortunately the default action is download, so users will not notice and don't have to care what their browser thinks it is downloading.

Palemoon tells me that it's a "plain text document" Laughing
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 Filesize   58.71 KB
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jul 2017, 23:09    Post subject:  

MM it certainly looks like a browser problem rather than a site problem. I only use Seamonkey and I don't think I have ever seen this problem. I don't think I have noticed it with Firefox either although I don't use Firefox very often, only when I'm in Slacko.
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jul 2017, 23:33    Post subject:  

smokey01 wrote:
I only use Seamonkey and I don't think I have ever seen this problem.
But you can see it now, right? What content type does Seamonkey assume?
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jul 2017, 23:48    Post subject:  

@radky:

I discovered that I am guilty as charged... I followed your suggestion of
getting your file through wget and I had no problems at all installing it.

Also SFR's UExtract detected no errors while unpacking it. (But SFR's
UExtract couldn't unpack the one downloaded with my old opera 12.16.)

BTW, my main distro is now DPupStretch7-fr, not the one-year old
Puduan-6.0 I used to run.

I have a variety of browsers on DPupStretch7-fr.* I tried downloading
your file once more with Vivaldi-1.9: the file was sane, and UExtract
thought so too. It installed without a glitch.

BFN.

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* For the record, DPupStretch7-fr.is a bilingual French-English Puppy.
Although directed at French-speaking Puppyists (it incorporates French
translations | locales), it should run fine in English too, since no original
English text has been removed.

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jul 2017, 23:57    Post subject:  

Downloaded with Palemoon 27.2.1 to Lucid 5.2.8.7. I usually save .pets to /root before testing, so I never had a problem installing them.
download.jpg
 Description   
 Filesize   22.92 KB
 Viewed   146 Time(s)

download.jpg

download-2.jpg
 Description   
 Filesize   22.33 KB
 Viewed   144 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Jul 2017, 00:40    Post subject: Re: ListDD-2.0
Subject description: Spanish translation
 

vicmz wrote:
Here's a Spanish translation for ListDD-2.0

Thank you vicmz. Your contributions are very much appreciated!

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Jul 2017, 00:43    Post subject:  

@MochiMoppel,

Thanks for your insight about potential file corruption when downloading pets via browsers.

Very helpful!

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@musher0,

Thanks for testing further. I'm pleased we have an explanation and solution for potential file corruption when downloading pet files with browsers such as Opera.

BTW, to prevent confusion to others who may visit this thread, I wonder if you might consider removing your repackaged pet of ListDD-2.0?

Thanks! Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Jul 2017, 02:46    Post subject:  

MochiMoppel wrote:
smokey01 wrote:
I only use Seamonkey and I don't think I have ever seen this problem.
But you can see it now, right? What content type does Seamonkey assume?


A bit like Palemoon. Seamonkey recognises pet files as text and therefore suggests Geany. I changed that in Fatdog64 to use viewpet.sh. This should have nothing to do with downloading though, just viewing the file online.
seamonkey1.png
 Description   When first clicked to download. Notice the plain text document. This does not seem to corrupt the download.
 Filesize   21.19 KB
 Viewed   124 Time(s)

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seamonkey2.png
 Description   Results of using viewpet.sh
 Filesize   20.33 KB
 Viewed   122 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Jul 2017, 07:41    Post subject:  

radky wrote:
@MochiMoppel,

Thanks for your insight about potential file corruption when downloading pets via browsers.

Very helpful!

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@musher0,

Thanks for testing further. I'm pleased we have an explanation and solution for potential file corruption when downloading pet files with browsers such as Opera.

BTW, to prevent confusion to others who may visit this thread, I wonder if you might consider removing your repackaged pet of ListDD-2.0?

Thanks! Smile

I did as you asked, to prevent confusion.

I wouldn't say we have an "explanation", at least I wouldn't word it that
way. We know how to avoid the problem.

But do we know exactly why some browsers "corrupt" some pet files and
not others? The only pet files I have a "corruption" problem with are
yours, radky, strange as that may sound.

BFN.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Jul 2017, 11:05    Post subject:  

Sometimes you have to unpack a pet and repackage it yourself for it to install.

I found this happens sometimes when using dir2pet non-compulsory option incorrectly.

Also, you may be trying to install a 32bit on 64bit system. Just some thoughs.
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