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Trusty Tahr-rc2 EmSee CE - 11 October 2014
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stemsee


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PostPosted: Sat 11 Oct 2014, 13:33    Post_subject:  Trusty Tahr-rc2 EmSee CE - 11 October 2014
Sub_title: Download link 249mb iso
 

Built from Woof-CE-testing, kernel 3.16.5-EmSeeV3 32bit non pae.
There is one insignificant bug, when opening palemoon browser, an error message about dbus daemon, I tried to solve it but couldn't. That doesn't affect the great user experience with this distro.

Wether or not this will be the base for EmSeeV3 depends on my woof-ce Utopic build, final outcome.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4GhZVmB2RkwV0lIbl84bXl4RUU/view?usp=sharing
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Oct 2014, 13:46    Post_subject:  

Download proceeding.

Edit:
Downloaded in less than 1.5 minutes. Google is still fastest on the planet.

Question: Can someone share what is the "Puppy prescribed" way to update Palemoon when newer fixes occur?

Thanks

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Oct 2014, 14:09    Post_subject:  

gcmartin wrote:

Question: Can someone share what is the "Puppy prescribed" way to update Palemoon when newer fixes occur?s


a delta perhaps.
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oui

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Location: near Woof (Germany) :-) Acer Laptop emachines 2 GB RAM AMD64. franco-/germanophone, +/- anglophone

PostPosted: Sat 11 Oct 2014, 18:07    Post_subject:  

Hi Stemsee

The ISO is heavy and I thing it is an error to integrate some browser as the puppy world is now really partaged which browser has to be the best now and in the future (fans of Seamonkey or Opera loose her email administration if they change)!
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Oct 2014, 18:36    Post_subject:  

@oui

Yes at 249mb the iso is 'heavy', I will strip it down and apply stronger compression.

So, you prefer this puppy to come with NO browser at all? With QuickPet that is a reasonable possibility, I guess ... but for new users that might be less easy.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Oct 2014, 19:14    Post_subject:  

stemsee wrote:
... but for new users that might be less easy.
+1. Any would be better than none. Author's choice.

Functionality and performance is good as these are some of the most important features.

Needs SAMBA (10MB) to make LAN integration simple. Repo approach has always been much too confusing for users needing simple content sharing.

I offer this as an idea that "many/most users are OOTB users coming into Puppyland". They want functionality!

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Oct 2014, 19:15    Post_subject:  

As the subject came up, I've wondered why Palemoon? Is it a size/ functionality thing?

Edit: I agree with GCMartin, that you need to package at least one browser.

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Oct 2014, 03:52    Post_subject:  

@slavvo67

Palemoon was simply the default in DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS in woof-ce.I didn't edit that file at all. I simply furnished rootfs-skeleton with a few customisations. It was just an experiment to see how it would build.

I have no intention of NOT supplying a browser. I think that is a 'ridiculous' suggestion/request/observation. I also have no intention of supplying every browser ... although EmSeeV3 wants to leave nothing to the imagination Wink
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Oct 2014, 06:03    Post_subject:  

Hi stemsee

Thanks for this new puppy/kernel combo....

Tried it on my desktop - it failed to detect my wireless keyboard and mouse so it was unfortunately DOA for me.....press of power switch required.

from LxPup14.03:
Quote:
-Input Devices-
Logitech USB Receiver
Logitech USB Receiver

Quote:
[ 2.099634] usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=046d, idProduct=c517
[ 2.099637] usb 2-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[ 2.099639] usb 2-2: Product: USB Receiver
[ 2.099640] usb 2-2: Manufacturer: Logitech
[ 2.109770] input: Logitech USB Receiver as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0/input/input0
[ 2.109783] logitech 0003:046D:C517.0001: input: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [Logitech USB Receiver] on usb-0000:00:02.0-2/input0
[ 2.119598] logitech 0003:046D:C517.0002: fixing up Logitech keyboard report descriptor
[ 2.120029] input: Logitech USB Receiver as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.1/input/input1
[ 2.120112] logitech 0003:046D:C517.0002: input,hiddev0: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Logitech USB Receiver] on usb-0000:00:02.0-2/input1

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Oct 2014, 09:17    Post_subject:  

hi peebee

do you mean it is a kernel/modules deficiency? Or maybe hal?
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Oct 2014, 11:05    Post_subject:  

stemsee wrote:
hi peebee

do you mean it is a kernel/modules deficiency? Or maybe hal?


Hi stemsee

Don't know I'm afraid - and as I can't talk to the booted system I can't get any diagnostic info for you.

It's not a kernel problem though - I've dropped your kernel into both LxPup14.09 (i.e. Slacko6) and into TahrPup5.8.3.rc1 and in both cases the wireless keyboard and mouse work as expected.

Tried a usb wired keyboard.....also didn't work...

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Oct 2014, 12:35    Post_subject:  

Some more feedback - after testing on my HP550 laptop....

Broadcom b43 firmware as present in most/all? puppies seems to be missing - copied it across from another pup into /lib/firmware and then my wifi worked.

No problems with keyboard/touchpad on the laptop.

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Oct 2014, 20:33    Post_subject: No Partition for a Save file?
Sub_title: Manual Frugal in a multi-Frugals partition
 

G'day,

Did a manual install for a Frugal to an empty emseetahrpup subdirectory on my Frugals Partition (sda7) which boots up OK, but when I attempted to make a save-file during first shut-down, it reports no suitable partition for a save file (red box) and then shuts down. Happened twice.

sda7 is 49GB with 14% free space. There are two hard drives (14 partitions on each) with a good proportion of free space on most partitions.

Haven't seen this with any other CE Pup.

Also have no right-click menu to speak of - is this intended?

Have not checked iso download yet.

David S.
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Oct 2014, 01:02    Post_subject:  

OK ... Time to 'fes up. After creating the new tahr build, I spent some time trying to get connected to wlan, turns out it was ssl. However I did create some links and stuff and installed uninstalled other stuff .... then on top of that I remastered several times while testing my new sfs-direct-remaster app .... so maybe just maybe (read probably) I didn't reverse everything. Not to worry though as I now know exactly what I should have done, and so expect a fresh pristine iso soon. Laughing

No right click menu! As this is only the base system and not the fully furnished EmSeeV3: I reserve the right to share as is and give the user freedom to install/uninstall what s/he will. Rest assured that EmSeeV3 will have right click menu and more in due course of time, as I am resolved to pillage all useful scripts from others as I find them!! Cool
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Oct 2014, 01:19    Post_subject:  

I had an issue with ABI Word 3.0.0 shutting down on me just as I was going to save. This is probably not an issue with your distro but with the constant instability that is "ABI". Still, I felt it was worth mentioning. I respectfully request that you consider dumping ABI in future releases for a more stable Libre or OO.

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