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MU · Last edited by MU on Sun 24 Sep 2006, 20:21; edited 3 times in total

Screenshot:

Very nice one.

On first sight, it has these advantages to Rox:
Gtk2, so should support unicode.

You can choose how to navigate, choose a Webbrowser-bar like navigation, or the one as in the Gtk2-fileselectiondialog.
It supports Drag'n'Drop-Bookmarks, and preview of pictures.

Download:
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/File_Managers/Thunar-Gtk-2.8/

If you don't use the XFCE-desktop, you need Exo and LibXFCE, too.

Some more files are required:

Puppy 1.xx to 2.02
You need Gtk2.8, Info:
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=9599 (NOT in Puppy 2.10 !!!)

Direct download of Gtk2.8 (this updates your System Exclamation

):
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Libraries/Gtk-2.8.20/Gtk-2.8.20-Glib-2.9.3-Atk-1.10.3-Pango-1.10.4-Cairo-1.2.0.pup
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Libraries/Gtk-2.8.20/Goffice-0.21-Gsf-1.14.1-Gnomeprint-1.12.1.pup

And you need these ones:
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Libraries/Gtk-2.8.20/optional/Gamin-0.1.7.pup
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Libraries/Gtk-2.8.20/optional/Hicolor-icon-theme-0.9.pup
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Libraries/Gtk-2.8.20/optional/Gnome-icon-theme-2.14.2.pup
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Libraries/Gtk-2.8.20/optional/Shared-mime-info-0.18.pup
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Libraries/Gtk-2.8.20/optional/desktop-file-utils-0.11.pup

Puppy 2.10
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Libraries/Gtk-2.8.20/optional/Gamin-0.1.7.pup
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Libraries/Gtk-2.8.20/optional/Hicolor-icon-theme-0.9.pup
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Libraries/Gtk-2.8.20/optional/Gnome-icon-theme-2.14.2.pup
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Libraries/Gtk-2.8.20/optional/Shared-mime-info-0.18.pup
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Libraries/Gtk-2.8.20/optional/desktop-file-utils-0.11.pup

If you have no icons in thunar, edit the file
/root/.gtkrc-2.0

Add this line to it:
gtk-icon-theme-name = "gnome"

Mine looks like this:

MU · Posted: Tue 25 Jul 2006, 11:56 Post subject:

I was wrong, you don't need Perl or Python.
The Plugins use shellscripts.
I added the archiver-plugin, and the TAG-plugin.
Whith that, you can enter Title and Album-name with a rightclick on a musicfile.
This info will be saved IN the musicfile I think.

The archiver-plugin does not work, but could be adapted:

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From the readme:
Supported archive managers
==========================

thunar-archive-plugin currently supports file-roller (the GNOME archive manager)
and ark (the KDE archive manager), but support for additional archive managers
can be easily added.

To add support for a new archive manager, all you need to do is to install
the .desktop file - with the list of supported mime types - for the archive
manager to the $(datadir)/applications/ folder (as usual), and in addition,
install a .tap file to $(libexecdir)/thunar-archive-plugin/, which provides
a wrapper script that invokes the archive manager with the appropriate
parameters for the actions "Create Archive", "Extract Here" and "Extract To".

The .tap and .desktop files should have the same basename, otherwise the
thunar-archive-plugin is not able to find the appropriate .tap file for an
archive manager. For example, if the name of the .desktop file is ark.desktop,
the .tap file must be named ark.tap.

See the scripts/ directory for examples of how to create said .tap files. The
template.tap file should provide a good starting point.

--------------------------------------------

Mark

darkerror05 · Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 277 Location: Rochester NY, USA

Does Thunar Filemanager support pinboards like in rox?

MU · Posted: Tue 25 Jul 2006, 13:17 Post subject:

No.
It is the filemanager of the XFCE-desktop now.
XFCE has its own iconsystem (what is the pinboard in Rox).

But of course you still can use Rox, Thunar does not replace it.
But you cannot drag files from Thunar to the Rox-desktop Rolling Eyes

I think that is not so important, as I drag files to the desktop quite seldom, in that case I simply click the "home"-icon to open Rox.

Mark

klhrevolutionist · Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 1124

MU I thank you for leading the way "updating libs". I really do.

However, is it at all possible to have a thunar file-manager for the current puppy-libs ?

MU · Posted: Tue 25 Jul 2006, 17:43 Post subject:

No, unfortunately Thunar cannot be compiled with older versions than 2.8.
In fact thunar was the main reason, why I spent all these days with Gtk-experiments.
In 2.6 it will not compile, as that misses some functions, in 2.10 it crashes because of a bug in Glib (the Thunar-developer thinks so too, and could reproduce the crashes).
2.8 is the only version at moment, where it works.

Mark

MU · Posted: Tue 25 Jul 2006, 19:22 Post subject:

I added a small dotpup "desktop-file-utils", that is required so that you can assign applications to documents with a rightclick.
Mark

MU · Posted: Tue 25 Jul 2006, 19:43 Post subject:

ah cool, with the file-utils also pupzip works with a right-click.
Added the required 2 files to the thunar-dotpup.

"Extract here" does not work, but with a right click -> extract you can open it in Pupzip.
For "extract here", we will have to add a folder parameter to pupzip.
If you rightclick a normal file, you can add it to an archive or create a new one.

Mark

klhrevolutionist · Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 1124

oops... I should read first.

disciple · Posted: Tue 26 Sep 2006, 20:30 Post subject:

I like it - but is there any way to quickly get most normal file types associated with their applications, or do we have to do them all one at a time as we use them? And thumbnails aren't working... maybe they will if I associate image files with something - I'll see when I get home.

MU · Posted: Tue 26 Sep 2006, 20:43 Post subject:

Thumbnails work for me.
Be shure to install the mime-info dotpup mentioned above.
Do you have correct icons for folders and documents?
A folder must look like a folder, using a different icon than a document.

Which Puppy do you use?

I just saw, that in Puppy 2.10 it crashes, when I try to set the run-action for a file Sad

There is another version of Thunar in this dotpup, will try it in the next days in Puppy 2.10, or compile a more recent cvs-version.
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=9861

Mark

sunburnt · Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 4006 Location: Arizona, U.S.A.

Mark; Are you saying the newest Xfce has Thunar in it? What version?

MU · Posted: Tue 26 Sep 2006, 21:23 Post subject:

I think GuestToo talked about Gnome, that he does not like.
I don't like it either as a whole desktop, just some programs from it.
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The xfce-dotpup is a beta-version, not shure if 4.4 final is already out.
The included thunar is slightly older than the one from this thread I think.

Icewm and Jwm are "only" windowmanagers, while xfce is a full desktop like Gnome.
Different to Gnome, it is very modular, so other xfce-dotpups in this forum only included the most common things like the windowmanager and the panel.

The full xfce includes filemanager, themes, configuration-tools, an own icon-system.

I personally prefer building my own desktop based on Icewm and the Xfce-taskbar, Puppys configuration-tools and icons (rox).
As filemanager XFileExplorer (and konqueror from KDE as webbrowser).

This is Icewm + xfce-taskbar + rox(2 , at moment I use 1 again)
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/WindowManagers/Xfce4-taskbarmu.jpg

Links:
icewm-ultra:
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=9404

xfce-taskbar
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?p=62412#62412

When I finished the PSI-installer, I plan to create a "MU-Desktop", which puts all these parts in one .sfs file together with some other utilities for easy usage.

So you could run "xwin mu-desktop" to get everything pre-configured the way I use Puppy.

Mark

GuestToo · Puppy Master Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 4078

Nathan F · Posted: Tue 26 Sep 2006, 22:44 Post subject:

Yes, you have lots of choice. And that's the point now isn't it?

I just installed Xubuntu onto a second computer at home. This has a pretty cutting edge xfce desktop and I'm finding that I like it a lot better than earlier versions. However the library requirements have gone up a lot, as has the memory footprint. I'd have to say that I favor either fluxbox or openbox with rox. And usually no panel these days, it just takes up space.

Nathan