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torm
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#1711 Post by torm »

Hello.

What driver (and where) should I look for this graphics card:
ATI Radeon 9250/9200, AGP, 128MB, VGA + S-VHS
xorgwizard will not give usable picture.
Appears to work OOTB with BodhiLinux, unfortunately I don't remember
the passwords for it to dig deeper.

PS. the model name: Radeon 9250/9200 or "9200 series" is from WinXP properties :(
One of the few cards that fits this computer casing.. for height.

thinkpadfreak
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#1712 Post by thinkpadfreak »

torm wrote:
> What driver (and where) should I look for this graphics card:
> ATI Radeon 9250/9200, AGP, 128MB, VGA + S-VHS
> xorgwizard will not give usable picture.

I am afraid that AGP based graphics cards do not work well with Tahrpup, due to KMS(kernel mode setting) which is a default on Tahrpup.

So, I still use Puppy 4 series and Lupu 528 on ThinkPad T42, whose video card is ATI Radeon Mobility 7500.

Pelo

Graphics adrive for X-Tahr 2.0

#1713 Post by Pelo »

Graphics adrive for X-Tahr 2.0 installed on my Tahrpup .
Its so full featured for photographic works as Libre Office for typists.
Shotwell ? is included in Tahrpup 6.0.5 (Triton petihar)
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charlie6
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palemoon 27.1.0 segfaults on tahrpup-6.0.6

#1714 Post by charlie6 »

Hi,
just got this palemoons segfault after less than 10 minutes browsing:
(I restarted palemoon from console to get error comments and reproduced the segmentation fault):

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root# palemoon

(pale moon:20600): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property GnomeProgram::sm-connect after class was initialised

(pale moon:20600): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property GnomeProgram::show-crash-dialog after class was initialised

(pale moon:20600): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property GnomeProgram::display after class was initialised

(pale moon:20600): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property GnomeProgram::default-icon after class was initialised
ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment.
Segmentation fault
root#
HTH, Charlie

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bigpup
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#1715 Post by bigpup »

Try updating Pale Moon to the latest version. 27.4.2
menu>Internet>Palemoon-updater
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
YaPI(any iso installer)

redandwhitestripes
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#1716 Post by redandwhitestripes »

Can anyone help me get a Chromium-based browser functional on Tahr?

Using 32bit Tahr on my HP laptop, *any* chromium-based browser crashes the system. Be it Slimjet, Chrome or Chromium, it will sometimes run for 10 seconds or so, sometimes instantly will blank the screen, permanently.

I can type 'reboot' and the system reboots (but I can't see what I type).
This happens before or after downloading the bugfixes, with .pet installs or sfs installs, there's no change.

Any way to get one of these browsers working? It makes it easier to stream my music and watch videos on bitchute.com which doesn't work in Palemoon.

Many thanks,
Greg

PS No such problems on Tahr64 on my desktop

sheldonisaac
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Chromium-based browser

#1717 Post by sheldonisaac »

redandwhitestripes wrote:Using 32bit Tahr on my HP laptop, *any* chromium-based browser crashes the system. Be it Slimjet, Chrome or Chromium
Greg, I'm using the Iron browser 58.0.3050.0 with tahrpup 6.0.6 on this Dell Latitude E6410
Dell E6410: BusterPup, BionicPup64, Xenial, etc
Intel DQ35JOE, Dell Vostro 430
Dell Inspiron, Acer Aspire One, EeePC 1018P

number698
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#1718 Post by number698 »

Is there a way to un-hide palemoon after it;s been removed using the 'remove builtin packages' app ?

watchdog
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#1719 Post by watchdog »

An old trick by mikeb:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 213#728213

I do not know if it is still working in modern puppies.

number698
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#1720 Post by number698 »

watchdog wrote:An old trick by mikeb:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 213#728213

I do not know if it is still working in modern puppies.
thanks watchdog .

I guess it's change a little, looked into /initrd/pup_rw/ but found no clues.
I did find a wh. file in /opt/palemoon, deleted it, rebooted - but did not unhide palemoon.

Iv'e copied palemoon from a fresh save file into to my save folder but it's too messy for my liking - no menu entry, no default browser option to set to palemoon and no palemoon updater has been un-hidden.

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#1721 Post by chillinfart »

thinkpadfreak wrote:torm wrote:
> What driver (and where) should I look for this graphics card:
> ATI Radeon 9250/9200, AGP, 128MB, VGA + S-VHS
> xorgwizard will not give usable picture.

I am afraid that AGP based graphics cards do not work well with Tahrpup, due to KMS(kernel mode setting) which is a default on Tahrpup.

So, I still use Puppy 4 series and Lupu 528 on ThinkPad T42, whose video card is ATI Radeon Mobility 7500.
Configure xorg.conf manually.

You should have this at Device section, grabbed from my Thinkpad T42 conf. Options added are for use with KMS, open source radeon driver is built-in with tahrpup

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Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver	"ati"
	Option	"AccelMethod"		"exa"
	Option	"ColorTiling"		"on"
	Option	"EnablePageFlip"	"on"
	Option	"SwapBuffersWait"	"off"
	Option	"TearFree"			"off"
	
EndSection



However, Mesalib 10.x has some issues with Opera, fixed in version 11.x and later. I hope someone make a last upgrade for Tahrpup, Mesalib at that versions is hard to compile

redandwhitestripes
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Re: Chromium-based browser

#1722 Post by redandwhitestripes »

sheldonisaac wrote:
redandwhitestripes wrote:Using 32bit Tahr on my HP laptop, *any* chromium-based browser crashes the system. Be it Slimjet, Chrome or Chromium
Greg, I'm using the Iron browser 58.0.3050.0 with tahrpup 6.0.6 on this Dell Latitude E6410
This worked, thank you SO much! I have no idea why the others crash but now I can stream my music at work so I'm happy!

thinkpadfreak
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#1723 Post by thinkpadfreak »

chillinfart wrote:
> Configure xorg.conf manually.

Thank you for advice.

I am afraid that under KMS, most of the optional settings are ignored.
I tried to set "GARTSize" "32", only to fail.
Moreover, under KMS, VRAM is limited to about 26MB though my T42 has 32MB.

I rewrote /etc/modprobe.d/radeon.conf to disable KMS, but X failed to start.

On Precise 571, ati driver (no KMS) can be selected through xorgwizard, but GLX is disabled by default under "no KMS."

Since neither Precise nor Tahrpup is satisfactory, I mainly use Lupu 528.

EDIT: I think that the newer Puppies (more precisely the newer kernels) do not fit old computers, so it can't be helped. ThinkPad T42 is more than 12 years old.

Bird Dog
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Tahrpup64 6..0.5 CE

#1724 Post by Bird Dog »

This message is for Torm at the top of page 115. I have been using Tahrpup 6.0.5 and Tahrpup 6.0.6 frugally installed with a save folder in a P4 3.0 ghz cpu with an AGP 8X 4X ATI All in wonder 9600 64 mb ddr with 1 gb of ram and a 2 gb swap file and a 17 inch lcd monitor. I have been using this for the last year or so just the way it installed from the iso cd with no changes and have had zero problems with Palemoon or anything else so far.
PS The television still works using XP also.

Thanks
Bird Dog
Frugal Xenialpup 64, Bionicpup 64 save folder on core2 quad Q6600 2 gigs ram, AMD 6 core 4 gigs ram. Frugal Xenialpup 32, Bionicpup 32 save folder on P4 3.0 ghz 1 gig ram, Dell P4 Celeron 2.4 ghz 1 gig ram

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#1725 Post by augras »

Hi,
I have posted this message in the bugs part but no reponses.
So i try here : i can't thing i m the only one to have this problem.
I'm with tarhpup 6.0.5 and all quickpet updates made.

I get a problem when i want to print with a recent firefox, glabels and thunderbird, all gtk3 applications : when i want to print the software closes.
I get this error in the terminal
Code:
symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gtk-3.0/3.0.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-cups.so: undefined symbol: ippSetOperation

It seems there is a compatibility problem between cups and gtk3.
Cups is in 1.5.3 version.
Thanks for your help,
Philippe

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#1726 Post by watchdog »

augras wrote: I'm with tarhpup 6.0.5 and all quickpet updates made.

I get a problem when i want to print with a recent firefox, glabels and thunderbird, all gtk3 applications : when i want to print the software closes.
I get this error in the terminal
Code:
symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gtk-3.0/3.0.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-cups.so: undefined symbol: ippSetOperation

It seems there is a compatibility problem between cups and gtk3.
Cups is in 1.5.3 version.
Try to upgrade to tahr 6.0.6 Cups 1.7.5. No problems here printing from firefox 56.0.1.

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#1727 Post by augras »

Thank you watchdog,
i will try 6.0.6.
Philippe

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#1728 Post by augras »

It works fine on 6.0.6.
Thank you for the idea.
Is it possible to update 6.0.5 to 6.0.6 ?
I have a lot of software and my pupsave folder is around 2Go, so if it is possible to update it will be a very good thing.
Philippe

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#1729 Post by bigpup »

Should be able to use the 6.0.5 tahrsave with the 6.0.6 install.
Just copy the save to the 6.0.6 install.
When you boot 6.0.6 it should update the save.

If you already made a save for 6.0.6, replace it with the one from 6.0.5
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
YaPI(any iso installer)

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#1730 Post by augras »

Hi,
Thanks bigpup,
It doesn't work very well : it's slow and some softwares don't work at all.
I will begin with a new one and maybe try xenialpup.
Philippe

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