Puppy Translator of the Year (2014)

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Bert · #31 Post by **Bert** » Thu 18 Dec 2014, 19:44

Three members is a team

Let's roll..

@Musher0: it's not "my" project.
It all started with some "utopean" remarks by xanad earlier in this thread, which really made sense to me.

As for the leadership, we've been looking for a neo-neanderthaler.
It was soon decided the overall leader will be musher0. (But we still have to tell him)

What can we do as step one?
Maybe keep it simple and start with a wish list? And then sort that into short term and long term manageable projects?
Here in this forum or somewhere else? (e.g. Nabble?)

And don't we need a name for this translators' project?

musher0 · #32 Post by **musher0** » Thu 18 Dec 2014, 20:44

Thanks for the vote! I accept!
Thanks Bert and xanad for stiking your head out!

How about:
Project Canis-Cane ?
(Latin for dog)

Nah, does not sound old enough.

or

Project TrogloDog14 ?
Because of idea association with carbon14, will sound "active" even when ide l ! (We'll
see about that...)

Also contains the year of creation in the title. I sort of like this one.

Any other ideas?

What's Nabble? Ah, I see http://www.nabble.com/

For any site, my only reservation would be that the site is
* somewhat permanent
* has as many of the following features as possible

lots of storage space
an easy follow-up system (% translated ?)
forum with threads and even sub-threads (helps to organize thoughts)
chat
home page to expose our "charter" to Puppyists and the world

(I say chat,,, not necessarily for me, I only tolerate it. But some people really like it
as a working or collaborative tool. And sometimes a typical forum is not the best way
to exchange flowing ideas.) (Only my 2¢.)

I'm sure I missed something...

So... let's get to work!

BFN.

musher0

musher0 · #33 Post by **musher0** » Thu 18 Dec 2014, 20:55

ASRI has also been active on this front. He's created a gitHub for translations.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=95215
Maybe ask him to join?

musher0 · #34 Post by **musher0** » Thu 18 Dec 2014, 21:05

I propose vicmz be voted in as Treasurer, because he likes euros AND dollars.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... ost#812087
Who seconds?

Bert · #35 Post by **Bert** » Fri 19 Dec 2014, 14:02

Hi musher0,

When I wrote

As for the leadership, we've been looking for a neo-neanderthaler.
It was soon decided the overall leader will be musher0. (But we still have to tell him)

, that was meant jokingly...this is Puppy Linux, so who needs a leader..?

I think the name of this project should say what the project is about: something like Puppy Translators Corner or similar. Anyway we have no project yet, let's start with the goals, plenty of time left to find a name.

To keep the workload minimal, my own preference would be to use this forum for the time being. If things evolve, we'll see about what site/repo/forum would be best.

Xanad's two "utopias" are the best base as a starting point. Those are already two big trees, allowing plenty of branches to grow from them.

Vicmz is a great linguist...those usually make lousy Treasurers

He would create a perfect multilingual powerpoint on how to translate dollars to euros..

Of course the doors of our little project are wide open to vicmz, ASRI and all other translators. I think we have some work to do first, to make the project visible and appealing.

That's in short what I think at the moment.

L18L · #36 Post by **L18L** » Fri 19 Dec 2014, 19:25

I wish you a good start,
start with the goals is very good.
If I had time...

Fully occupied with canis crassus at the moment

Bert · #37 Post by **Bert** » Fri 19 Dec 2014, 19:59

L18L wrote:I wish you a good start,
start with the goals is very good.
If I had time...

Fully occupied with canis crassus at the moment

Ha, the momanager maintenance man

Thanks for your wishes.

It's fun to see my dutch translation more or less working in the Canis Crassus menu. Does the rest of the langpack have a similar (66%?) success rate?

Enjoy your Foie Gras, correction, Chien Gras.

BFN, as musher0 would say.

ASRI Ã©ducation · #38 Post by **ASRI Ã©ducation** » Fri 19 Dec 2014, 23:11

musher0 wrote:ASRI has also been active on this front. He's created a gitHub for translations.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=95215
Maybe ask him to join?

You can count on me.
Regards,

xanad · #39 Post by **xanad** » Sat 20 Dec 2014, 08:47

Cave canem!

I think that the first thing to do even the simplest would be to open a new thread for the welcome and support to new translators. Where to read the basic rules to begin ... momanager, DevX, poedit, gettext, etc .... and above all as done for me by vicmz a kind of 'Caronte' accompanying the translator in the low group hell: LC_MESSAGES!

Bert · #40 Post by **Bert** » Sat 20 Dec 2014, 09:59

ASRI éducation wrote: You can count on me.
Regards,

That's great ASRI.
Thank you.

Bert · #41 Post by **Bert** » Sat 20 Dec 2014, 10:00

xanad, I've sent a pm.

vicmz · #42 Post by **vicmz** » Sat 20 Dec 2014, 17:32

So the first Puppy Translators Team is formed. Cool

To me it's a surprise to see that no one has mentioned updating and translating Puppy documentation (online wiki, manuals and websites) as one of the goals. Yeah, actually I'm not good enough for that either --by lack of time, by illness, by laziness, I always write little. And no, I'm not expecting dollars or euros.

However, maybe this job could be done better as a team. The main reason why I didn't make an individual web site for the Spanish language support is that there are many Puppy sites already, and ideally all help content should be posted in those ones first.

Bert · #43 Post by **Bert** » Sat 20 Dec 2014, 20:06

vicmz wrote:So the first Puppy Translators Team is formed. Cool

To me it's a surprise to see that no one has mentioned updating and translating Puppy documentation (online wiki, manuals and websites) as one of the goals. Yeah, actually I'm not good enough for that either --by lack of time, by illness, by laziness, I always write little. And no, I'm not expecting dollars or euros. However, maybe this job could be done better as a team. The main reason why I didn't make an individual web site for the Spanish language support is that there are many Puppy sites already, and ideally all help content should be posted in those ones first.

Hi Victor,

I guess not many like translating doc files, because there's such an overflow of them in and around Puppy, a distro "that...just works" and also because the documentation is often outdated. Not blaming anyone for this, it's the nature of documentation, specially in a fast evolving distro like Puppy.

I have no idea what we as a team could do about this.
It is not really a translator's task to update the documentation.
If you have ideas for a better way of treating documentation, those would be most welcome!

BTW, one of my tasks tonight is counting the members. Shall I add you as a member? I would be very happy to do so

Bert · #44 Post by **Bert** » Sat 20 Dec 2014, 20:41

I've been proposing via pm's to move our discussions to a new place.

I was inspired by how the WOOF-CE guys make good use of nabble, a friendly and simple communication tool that works really well.

It's not that we have something to hide from this forum, but to prevent polluting this forum with lengthy technical and organisational discussions.

It could be a temporary communication channel, just to get things going.
I'm still waiting for two replies, but for those reading this: is it a good idea?

The members vote will decide.

Bert · #45 Post by **Bert** » Sun 21 Dec 2014, 16:57

Okay, it's decided, the translators team will move to Puppy Translators Team.
(75% of members said yes to this)

A layout question:

Please have a look at thistest forum, which has subforums, and compare it with the Woof-CE forum, which has no subforums.

Both have advantages and disadvantages. I have a light preference for subforums.

What do you guys think?
Thanks

vicmz · #46 Post by **vicmz** » Sun 21 Dec 2014, 18:17

Bert wrote:I guess not many like translating doc files, because there's such an overflow of them in and around Puppy, a distro "that...just works" and also because the documentation is often outdated. Not blaming anyone for this, it's the nature of documentation, specially in a fast evolving distro like Puppy.

I have no idea what we as a team could do about this.
It is not really a translator's task to update the documentation.
If you have ideas for a better way of treating documentation, those would be most welcome!

BTW, one of my tasks tonight is counting the members. Shall I add you as a member? I would be very happy to do so

Yeah, you're right. It's not really a task for translators, yet someone has to do it. It's summer holidays here, I'll see if I can start something in English, and others might translate it if they feel it could help. And yes, you can add me as a member.

Bert · #47 Post by **Bert** » Sun 21 Dec 2014, 18:33

Thanks vicmz,

Let's rock

Bert · #48 Post by **Bert** » Sun 21 Dec 2014, 20:10

WARNING: OFF-TOPIC

I just see I have written a thousand forum posts.
It took me only 8 years to do so.

Next eight years will be much more of the same.

Yours Sincerely,

Bert · #49 Post by **Bert** » Mon 22 Dec 2014, 18:04

The Puppy Translators Team is live!

Some more polishing to do, but we're getting there.
To become a member, please click "register" in the top right corner.

And don't spare me your critique

musher0 · #50 Post by **musher0** » Mon 22 Dec 2014, 18:16

Bert wrote:WARNING: OFF-TOPIC

I just see I have written a thousand forum posts.
It took me only 8 years to do so.

Next eight years will be much more of the same.

Yours Sincerely,

Hey, here's a couple of proverbs for you:
* it's quality that counts, not quantity.

* the turtle won the race, not the hare!

Anyway, congratulations on your 1,000th post!

musher0

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