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#781 Post by bigpup »

nvidia pet in the quickpet app was also failing to fully download too
How is Tahrpup64 installed?
Full or frugal?
If frugal. Using save file or folder?
Installed on what device?

Usually not enough available free space, in the save, causes issues like this.
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#782 Post by number698 »

bigpup wrote:
The requested URL /ibiblio/distributions/puppylinux/puppy-tahr/iso/tahrpup64-6.0.5/ was not found on this server.
The URL should be this:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pu ... p64-6.0.5/
Where are you getting that one?
opps, already been highlighted in this thread, sorry

page 1

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downloads
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pu ... p64-6.0.5/
http://ftp.nluug.nl/ibiblio/distributio ... p64-6.0.5/
for the kernel_sources type sfsget into a terminal
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#783 Post by number698 »

bigpup wrote:
nvidia pet in the quickpet app was also failing to fully download too
How is Tahrpup64 installed?
Full or frugal?
If frugal. Using save file or folder?
Installed on what device?

Usually not enough available free space, in the save, causes issues like this.
frugal-save folder on pc,,,

hmm, used quickpet for installing slimjet and it worked as normal.
is there a direct link for the nvidia pet ?
thanks

ok, using correct link now - so now have the nvidia pet and trying again.

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#784 Post by number698 »

all set up and working now :D

possible reason for the quickpet link to the nvidia pet failing - i noticed the file name did not match any of the 2 pet files that are located on the site from the correctly posted link

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a few issues

#785 Post by version2013 »

tahr64-6.0.5
issue free

Menu > System > HardInfo hardware information
Input Devices > AT Translated Set 2 keyboard

Menu > Setup > Mouse/keyboard Wizard
Advanced configuration > Keyboard Model > pc102 Generic 102-key (Intl) PC

Puppy Package Manager > xinput_1.6.1-1_i386.deb

# xinput
⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)]
⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ Synaptics Mouse id=6 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ Mouse0 id=7 [slave pointer (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master keyboard (2)]
↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Keyboard0 id=8 [slave keyboard (3)]


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tahr64-6.0.6
several issues detailed as follows

My hardware: hp laptop

tahr64-6.0.6-uefi.iso
md5=c56f79b8980c6c0def662f8203d2428d

Frugal install on laptop harddrive within external enclosure connected via usb3.
Using extlinux.sys as the boot loader.

copied four files into a folder from tahr64-6.0.6-uefi.iso:
initrd.gz
puppy_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs
vmlinuz
zdrv_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs


Menu > Setup > quickpet tahr
stills lists as 'tahrpup64-6.0.5'


Menu > System > Boot Manager > SFS-packages > 'Choose which extra SFS files to load'
and
Menu > Setup > SFS-Load on-the-fly
leads to 'SFS-Load on-the-fly v.2.4'
(Nothing loaded.)

trying to load devx_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs results in error message, attached.


The keyboard is not working correctly.
Arrow key 'up' appears to do print screen.
Keys that appear to fail to function:
'delete'
'enter' (right side of keyboard)
Arrow keys 'left' 'down' 'right'
'home' 'end'
plus a few other keys.


Puppy Package Manager > xinput_1.6.1-1
# xinput
⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)]
⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ eGalax Inc. eGalaxTouch EXC3000-0367-44.01.00 id=10 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ USB Optical Mouse id=11 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad id=13 [slave pointer (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master keyboard (2)]
↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Power Button id=6 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Video Bus id=7 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Power Button id=8 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ HP Webcam id=9 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard id=12 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ HP Wireless hotkeys id=14 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ HP WMI hotkeys id=15 [slave keyboard (3)]
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#786 Post by bigpup »

Menu > System > Boot Manager > SFS-packages > 'Choose which extra SFS files to load'
and
Menu > Setup > SFS-Load on-the-fly
leads to 'SFS-Load on-the-fly v.2.4'
(Nothing loaded.)

trying to load devx_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs results in error message, attached.
Is devx_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs located in /mnt/home?
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#787 Post by version2013 »

bigpup wrote:
Menu > System > Boot Manager > SFS-packages > 'Choose which extra SFS files to load'
and
Menu > Setup > SFS-Load on-the-fly
leads to 'SFS-Load on-the-fly v.2.4'
(Nothing loaded.)

trying to load devx_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs results in error message, attached.
Is devx_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs located in /mnt/home?
yes, it is in /mnt/home

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#788 Post by version2013 »

Does the '32bit_compatibility_libs_tahr64.sfs' contain 32-bit development libraries?
From what I can see, the 'lib32' folder does not contain the 'pkgconfig' folder.

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#789 Post by bigpup »

version2013 wrote:
bigpup wrote:
Menu > System > Boot Manager > SFS-packages > 'Choose which extra SFS files to load'
and
Menu > Setup > SFS-Load on-the-fly
leads to 'SFS-Load on-the-fly v.2.4'
(Nothing loaded.)

trying to load devx_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs results in error message, attached.
Is devx_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs located in /mnt/home?
yes, it is in /mnt/home
How many sfs packages do you have selected to load with SFS-Load-On-The-fly?
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#790 Post by bigpup »

version2013 wrote:Does the '32bit_compatibility_libs_tahr64.sfs' contain 32-bit development libraries?
From what I can see, the 'lib32' folder does not contain the 'pkgconfig' folder.
No.
It has what is required to run 32bit programs in Tahr64.

The devx SFS package has the stuff to compile with. It is for 64bit compiling.

If you want to do 32 bit compiling use Tahrpup 32bit version.
Use the Tahrpup 32bit devx SFS with it.
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#791 Post by version2013 »

bigpup wrote: How many sfs packages do you have selected to load with SFS-Load-On-The-fly?
I only selected the one sfs file, devx_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs.
No sfs files were previously loaded.

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#792 Post by version2013 »

bigpup wrote:
version2013 wrote:Does the '32bit_compatibility_libs_tahr64.sfs' contain 32-bit development libraries?
From what I can see, the 'lib32' folder does not contain the 'pkgconfig' folder.
No.
It has what is required to run 32bit programs in Tahr64.

The devx SFS package has the stuff to compile with. It is for 64bit compiling.

If you want to do 32 bit compiling use Tahrpup 32bit version.
Use the Tahrpup 32bit devx SFS with it.
Thank you for confirming.

I have been thinking how to compile wine 64bit with 32bit support (WOW64) when 'tahr64-6.0.5' does not have 32bit dev files.

I suppose compiling wine 64bit with 'tahr64-6.0.5.iso', then compiling wine 32bit with 'tahr-6.0.5_PAE.iso' would mix fairly well considering they are both 6.0.5 ?

example:
Boot into tahr64-6.0.5
wine64 configured with '--enable-win64'
copy the wine64-build directory to /mnt/home/temp/wine64-build/
Boot into tahr-6.0.5_PAE
wine32 configured with '--with-wine64=/mnt/home/temp/wine64-build/'

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Re: a few issues

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version2013 wrote:Menu > System > Boot Manager > SFS-packages > 'Choose which extra SFS files to load'
and
Menu > Setup > SFS-Load on-the-fly
leads to 'SFS-Load on-the-fly v.2.4'
(Nothing loaded.)

trying to load devx_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs results in error message, attached.
Did you do a clean install or "upgrade" an existing savefolder?
I just did a clean frugal install of tahr64_6.0.6 and:
1. Menu > Setup > SFS-Load on-the-fly
leads to 'SFS-Load on-the-fly v.3.0'
2. devx_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs loaded fine, no errors.

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Re: a few issues

#794 Post by version2013 »

gyro wrote:
version2013 wrote:Menu > System > Boot Manager > SFS-packages > 'Choose which extra SFS files to load'
and
Menu > Setup > SFS-Load on-the-fly
leads to 'SFS-Load on-the-fly v.2.4'
(Nothing loaded.)

trying to load devx_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs results in error message, attached.
Did you do a clean install or "upgrade" an existing savefolder?
I just did a clean frugal install of tahr64_6.0.6 and:
1. Menu > Setup > SFS-Load on-the-fly
leads to 'SFS-Load on-the-fly v.3.0'
2. devx_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs loaded fine, no errors.

gyro
Clean frugal install; new savefolder.
Where did you download the .iso?
SFS-Load version numbers differ.

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Re: a few issues

#795 Post by gyro »

version2013 wrote:Where did you download the .iso?
I probably got it from http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/pupp ... 6-uefi.iso. But that's just a mirror of "ibiblio" provided by my ISP.
version2013 wrote:SFS-Load version numbers differ.
Yes, I noticed that. That's why I asked the other questions, to try to sort out where the old version of sfs_load could be comming from.

Have you tried running the "sfs_load" contained in your "puppy_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs" directly?
You can click on "puppy_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs" and then select "View contents" to access the files inside it. Then navigate to "usr/sbin" and click on "sfs_load" to run it.

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Re: a few issues

#796 Post by version2013 »

gyro wrote:
version2013 wrote:SFS-Load version numbers differ.
Yes, I noticed that. That's why I asked the other questions, to try to sort out where the old version of sfs_load could be comming from.

Have you tried running the "sfs_load" contained in your "puppy_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs" directly?
You can click on "puppy_tahr64_6.0.6.sfs" and then select "View contents" to access the files inside it. Then navigate to "usr/sbin" and click on "sfs_load" to run it.

gyro
I checked again, this time with a definite fresh frugal install, and from the sfs file you mentioned.
The "sfs_load" is version 3.

I failed to remember that I tried to get 'puppy_tahr64_6.0.6' to work correctly with my laptop keyboard. I also failed to document exactly what I installed, apart from a version of 'xinput' from the PPM [1].
Unsure how the 'sfs_load' file was overwritten with an older version.

Sorry for the mistake.

Although I still am not sure why my keyboard has issues with 6.0.6.

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SOLVED My USB 3 Problems with tahrpup64.

#798 Post by James186282 »

Around Christmas I posted a problem with USB 3 on a PCI VIA card. I tried reading through all the complaints on other systems OSs and pretty much drove myself crazy for a while and almost gave up.

Anyway for the first time in a long time score one for the guy who is always asking the dumb ass questions and not hunkering down and figuring out things himself.

So my machine is an AMD Desktop box that started as a Dimension E521 but has been modified with the fastest available AMD CPU and has a huge power supply and a relic *NVIDIA card a Wifi Card and the VIA usb 3 card. * so I can have a second monitor (In portrait mode) The portrait monitor is a typical DELL landscape type that I modified to sit sideways. And for editing text its really nice. arandr script in startup flips it. It probably sounds like junk because thats how I got it. Someone was throwing all of this except the VIA 3 USB card into the trash.

The solution after trying a lot of things was to change one line of my menu.lst file that I use to boot the machine. All I did was add acpi=strict and all the dmesg errors about xhci_hcd not accepting addresses and command rings failing went away and the damn thing blazes away at USB3 speeds at long last on my external hard disc drive. Mentally picture a guy doing the happy dance.

kernel /vmlinuz psubdir=/ pfix=fsck acpi=strict pkeys=us vga=ask

I have created an almost crazy large (20 to 30K) heavy on the comments menu.lst file that might be of value because... when everything else failed I looked at the known acpi options in my comments and came up with that one to try. If anyone is curious or wants to see what OCD perfection issues looks like ;-) just ask and I'll paste it in a message or if someone has some space to store it?
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Art is everything else we do.
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Re: SOLVED My USB 3 Problems with tahrpup64.

#799 Post by James186282 »

James186282 wrote:Around Christmas I posted a problem with USB 3 on a PCI VIA card. I tried reading through all the complaints on other systems OSs and pretty much drove myself crazy for a while and almost gave up.

Anyway for the first time in a long time score one for the guy who is always asking the dumb ass questions and not hunkering down and figuring out things himself.

So my machine is an AMD Desktop box that started as a Dimension E521 but has been modified with the fastest available AMD CPU and has a huge power supply and a relic *NVIDIA card a Wifi Card and the VIA usb 3 card. * so I can have a second monitor (In portrait mode) The portrait monitor is a typical DELL landscape type that I modified to sit sideways. And for editing text its really nice. arandr script in startup flips it. It probably sounds like junk because thats how I got it. Someone was throwing all of this except the VIA 3 USB card into the trash.

The solution after trying a lot of things was to change one line of my menu.lst file that I use to boot the machine. All I did was add acpi=strict and all the dmesg errors about xhci_hcd not accepting addresses and command rings failing went away and the damn thing blazes away at USB3 speeds at long last on my external hard disc drive. Mentally picture a guy doing the happy dance.

kernel /vmlinuz psubdir=/ pfix=fsck acpi=strict pkeys=us vga=ask

I have created an almost crazy large (20 to 30K) heavy on the comments menu.lst file that might be of value because... when everything else failed I looked at the known acpi options in my comments and came up with that one to try. If anyone is curious or wants to see what OCD perfection issues looks like ;-) just ask and I'll paste it in a message or if someone has some space to store it?
O O P s
It only made it work once in a blue moon. Still looking for a solution to this VL80x PCI card not working. BTW I'm using an AMD machine. The initial error reports timeout while waiting for setup address command. I've searched the web and see the problem but mostly with no responses. Anyway I will continue on. Maybe this is a good time for me to finish work on my Midlife Crisis-mobile Ha Ha
Science is what we understand well enough to explain to a computer.
Art is everything else we do.
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#800 Post by bigpup »

installing Chrome browser via quickpet will corrupt Tahrpup64.
See this topic for info:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=110740
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