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Chromebook Pup V2 Released 20th Dec 2014
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Dec 2014, 06:56    Post subject:  Chromebook Pup V2 Released 20th Dec 2014
Subject description: Faster plus novel packaging. Turn any PC into a Chromebook. "Ok Google"
 

Overview:(V1)

This Pup attempts to mirror a Google Chromebook.
The concept is similar to Blue Pup in that it is intended to be simple & familiar in order to attract new users to PUPPY with all its benefits.
It does however have a dual personality in that it can just be used in the cloud centric fashion of a Chromebook or as a normal Pup. Pretty much anything can be installed via PPM & QUICKPET.
Slideshow:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/19XpDnN-HE3xkU-BLfUETQsALK9Hr1TwdNDABOIM8vKM/edit?usp=sharing

Main Features:

It is based on forum member vicmz’s OpenBox Precise built by him with Woof-CE 0.3 and the 3.9.11 PAE kernel. That in turn was based on Precise 5.7.1.
Details of OB Precise can be found here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=94954

Items Removed from OpenBox Precise 14.07.26:

Seamonkey.
Homebank.
Gnumeric.
Abiword.

Items added:

Google Chrome stable 39.0.2171.95 – pepper flash 16.0.0.235.
PupControl.
Various Chrome apps & extensions.
Latest Bash & SSL fixes.
(The print screen key invokes PupSnap)

Where to obtain the hybrid ISO: (chromebook_pup_v1.iso) - (245 MB)

The ISO & MD5sum can be found here:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_iVVJCd9q09R01QNXZwUFo1X1U&usp=sharing

Setup:
Having completed the usual first-run screen, reboot and create a 512 MB savefile. If it hangs at the prompt and does not offer the option to create a savefile just type “reboot” then press enter in order to display it. This may happen but only once.

Security Issues:

Chrome:

In order to run as root and to get Videostream and “O/K Google” working almost all the sandboxing in Chrome has been disabled. In addition the usual warning messages associated with running in that mode have been suppressed. Please therefore do not use this Pup for Internet banking. For that purpose forum member Greengeek has produced a dedicated secure Pup called Banksy 3.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=96805


Final Thoughts:

In this form this Pup will not match the speed of a real Chromebook.
In order to do that, it would require a later kernel and the same full install/f2fs configuration used in Blue Pup V6 which does rival a Chromebook when installed to SSD. If the concept finds favour I will pursue that option.

A similar distro by the name of CHROMIXIUM is due to appear on DistroWatch.
Currently in Alpha form, OOTB it uses Chromium and is based on a custom 32 bit Ubuntu 14.04 build with the LTS kernel 3.13. It mimics the logon of Chrome OS and the ISO weighs in at 925 MB.

Have fun. The ability to search Google straight from the Apps panel is a delight.
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Dec 2014, 06:58    Post subject: Chromebook Pup V1 Released 17th Dec 2014
Subject description: Proof of concept.
 

Reserved for Additional info, tips & FAQ:

1. A four step guide on how to enable “O/K Google” is now available in the download location.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_iVVJCd9q09R01QNXZwUFo1X1U&usp=sharing

"Ok Google” is only currently supported for the following languages and domains:
English (United States) on www.google.com
English (United Kingdom) on www.google.co.uk
French on www.google.fr
German on www.google.de
Russian on www.google.ru

2. EDIT: 26th Dec 2014
A folder of extra wallpapers can now be found in the download location.

3. EDIT: 31st Dec 2014
If you use a resolution of less than 1920x1080 the "save" icon may not be visible on the desktop
as it can be hidden beneath the first drive icon. Drag that icon aside to reveal the save icon and
then move the save icon file into view. Restart X.

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Dec 2014, 12:03    Post subject:  

mirrored here: http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_Chromebook_pup

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Dec 2014, 13:52    Post subject: Chromebook Pup V1 Released 17th Dec 2014  

Thanks ally. (The man who never sleeps!)
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Dec 2014, 14:34    Post subject:  

actually, chronic fatigue, sleeps way too much

just taken her out for a spin, forgot how lovely ob was - had a play with videostream, works great for one file then I have to restart the browser to play another, it selects a new file ok but then shows the old film just played

videostream is a great concept, I have a few Tb's of films and shows and casting to the tv is fantastic, shame that the android app does not allow you to select different media

the google search from apps bar is awesome!!

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Dec 2014, 03:19    Post subject: Chromebook Pup V2 Released 20th Dec 2014
Subject description: Faster plus novel packaging.
 

Main Changes:(V2)

Revised slideshow:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/19XpDnN-HE3xkU-BLfUETQsALK9Hr1TwdNDABOIM8vKM/edit?usp=sharing

Rather than a hybrid ISO, V2 is available as a compressed image (267 MB) with the intended target being an 8GB or larger USB2 or USB3 stick.

The image contains a small fat32 partition hosting the kernel with the main sfs on the faster second f2fs partition. The brand new and novel feature is that also on the second partition is a ready made 512 MB savefile.

The intention of this arrangement is to simplify set up so that anyone new to Puppy Linux is not immediately bothered with having to setup such a file and are spared having to decide what format to use and where to place it.

A side benefit of this arrangement is that it has allowed pupsaveconfig to be pre-configured to “always ask”. Upon re-booting or at shutdown the option to save the session or not will always be offered.
This can be very handy when your latest experimental addition has gone pear shaped as by not saving the session you in effect wipe the slate clean and can start again.
The desktop “save” icon can be clicked at any time and it makes sense to save a session before trying something risky.

Access to Quicksetup is provided by a temporary icon on the desktop. The image contains support for booting from “difficult” bioses.

Where to obtain the image: (chromebook_pup_v2.img.xz) - (267 MB)

The image & MD5sum can be found here:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_iVVJCd9q09R01QNXZwUFo1X1U&usp=sharing

Install Procedure:

Using Windows: (This is the recommended method when available)
7-Zip should be used to decompress the image. It will decompress to 3.74GB so please ensure that you have at least that much free space available on an NTFS volume.
Use win32diskimager to place the image on the stick.

A detailed win32diskimager guide is to be found here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=765457#765457

Using Linux: (Approx 15 minutes)

Commence by returning the stick to its virgin state before targeting it with the image.

In Linux use Gparted to do that:

1. Click on “device” then select “Create Partition Table”

2. Create a single fat32 partition spanning the whole stick accepting all other defaults.

(Do not set any flags or change anything else)

The commands for Chromebook Pup V2 are: (substitute actual target device letter for X)

Code:
Code:
# xz --decompress --stdout chromebook_pup_v2.img.xz > /dev/sdX
# sync


(Only issue the sync command when the 1st command has finished. If the stick was seen as sdb1 you should just target sdb NOT sdb1. Make sure the stick is not mounted before you issue the above commands)

N/B (Regardless of method used.)
If you first attempt to boot the stick on the same pc or laptop that you used to create it, make sure that before doing so, you shut down the device and remove all mains power from it for a couple of minutes.
This will ensure that your BIOS refreshes its view of the stick and sees it as bootable.
When you boot-up, access your BIOS to place the stick at the top of your boot order.
It may appear as a bootable ZIP or USB hard disc depending on your particular BIOS.

Final Thoughts:

Intended to attract new users to Linux this Pup is simpler to setup and provides something less intimidating than usual. Whilst a “look-alike” upsets some forum members it eases the transition for newbies as functions are more obvious.

Currently I think that this may be the only Pup that works with “O/K Google.”
To speed up the initial launch of Chrome silent launch is used.
Google Cast & Videostream are also included.
Netflix should work with this Pup if anyone has an account to test it.
Transfer to HD/SSD will be covered in a separate “how-to”.

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Dec 2014, 13:49    Post subject: Chromebook Pup V2 Released 20th Dec 2014  

Just for once its nice for Puppy to be ahead of Google.

"Google bringing always-on voice commands to Chromebooks"

www.theverge.com/2014/12/19/7423679/google-chromebook-ok-google-voice-command

(Available only in Chrome within Chromebook Pup since 17th Dec!)

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Dec 2014, 21:09    Post subject:  

Shouldn't your thread title mention Intel chip, since there are Chromebooks
with the arm processor?
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Dec 2014, 03:52    Post subject: Chromebook Pup V2 Released 20th Dec 2014  

don570 wrote:
Shouldn't your thread title mention Intel chip, since there are Chromebooks
with the arm processor?
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Hi don570,

This Pup is not intended to run on a real Chromebook.
It is meant to transform any other PC or laptop so that it looks like and behaves in a similar manner to a real Chromebook.
EDIT:
I have amended the description to reflect this.

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Dec 2014, 04:31    Post subject: Chromebook Pup appears to offer OOTB boot device options  

Hello @ETP. Was about to jump into ChromePUP when I noticed V2 availability.

In review, I notice
  1. V1 is an ISO allowing Live use.
  2. V2 appears as a USB/HDD image running as a FULL install with session capability.
Questions
  • Is this an accurate view?
  • And, is there any package differences between V1 to V2 beyond the boot device intents? (I am curious if I would get the same functionality no matter which version I would use at this stage in time?)
Looking forward to this, as, I intend to test this on my HP Touch Laptop.

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Dec 2014, 05:26    Post subject:  

Hi gc,

Your view is accurate. There is no change to the included packages or functionality other than V2 is simpler to setup and quicker to boot up and shutdown.

V2 is if you like, a cross between an ISO and a full install. Both V1 & V2 run entirely in RAM once loaded but V2 gains the speed advantage of a full install running off f2fs.

In contrast to a full install however V2 retains the option to save or not save at the end of the session. This makes it an ideal test bed.

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Dec 2014, 18:16    Post subject:
Subject description: thank you
 

I installed the xz image to a USB drive (Windows method) and booted a Dell ~2011 desktop with an NVIDIA quadro video card and external monitor. All went well, except that the first boot didn't pick up the mouse (connected through a KVM switch). Second boot fond the mouse ok. Video/audio/ethernet ok. Samba client OK. I like this Pup, very simple to setup and use, yet a full pup with goodies. Fresh, elegant and slick, 10/10. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Dec 2014, 07:41    Post subject:  

Installed successfully to usb stick - booted to working desktop on my desktop pc with Nvidia graphics.

A few comments:

Had to copy rt2780.bin wifi firmware manually to /lib/firmware before wifi could be used

The Save button was hidden behind the sda1 drive icon on the desktop

You would get better Chrome sandboxing with a later kernel:
Quote:
Sandbox Status

SUID Sandbox No
PID namespaces No
Network namespaces No
Seccomp-BPF sandbox Yes
Yama LSM enforcing No
You are not adequately sandboxed!
Cheers
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Dec 2014, 15:18    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
The Save button was hidden behind the sda1 drive icon on the desktop
Me too after I had booted to an external monitor, decreased monitor resolution and restarted X. Nvidia graphics card too.
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Dec 2014, 15:58    Post subject: Chromebook Pup V2 Released 20th Dec 2014  

@ peebee & step,

Thanks for your feedback. The hidden "save" icon is entirely my fault as I failed to consider resolutions less than my own and left it placed about one inch above the sda icon.
At resolutions less than 1920x1080 it would get squished down and finish up beneath the first drive icon. I should have placed it one inch below the QuickSetup icon. At least thanks to you both we now know where to find it. (If missing drag first drive icon aside to reveal it and then move it.)

Sandboxing was deliberately sacrificed as when running as root it was the only way to get "Ok Google" and Videostream working. There is a warning about Security in the OP.

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