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guardemon


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Location: Venezuela

PostPosted: Fri 02 Jan 2015, 00:23    Post subject:  TINWOK Educational Puppy
Subject description: Educational Light Distro
 

Happy New Year 2015!!!


Hello, my name is David Cisneros and in this moment im working in a new distro (puppy based) for my students, im a teacher in Venezuela and my lab have very old computers (and my boss don't have money for better computers), that's why im doing this OS. Also I wanna share the live cd on this website www.tinwok.com to download for free.

The project have this:
***************** Features of the system (I will be edited this during development) *****************
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-Browser: Firefox and seamonkey (I'm testing with opera, chrome is discarded)
-Office: OOolight, the best performance has been on OOokids but has many limitations, OpenOffice was discarded by use of disk space and RAM (any other option you know please inform) Testing Libre Office

-Content wiki: dowiki, one of the main features of the system will be using a wiki educational content classified by age inside of the system with links to internet (supplemented with the website that is already being designed)

-Design:
3D = Blender
Bitmap = Gimp, mtPaint
Vector = Inklite
Any suggestion of design for kids is welcome , design is extremely important for computer science and get son fun to the class

-Classroom Management: .... italc "testing"

-Chemical Physics and Mathematics .... in progress ... with this i have no problem because packets from other linux distro worked perfect here and i try to do this before in ubuntu so i have an idea about what software can use, but please make the sugestion if you have one

-Video Editor: I am looking for an equivalent to camtasia, I've got some very good but the aesthetic is not nice and that could alienate some students
-Programming: qturtle, but i see one of a cat (I think it's skit or something) I tried it in windows and is very good and i know exist version sfs, when i finish the problem with classroom management i going to take some time to looking the cat again

Guidelines and limitations:

All programs must be graphics and no terminal codes, im working with children from 5-19 years (although could add content to the wiki for university level 17-21)

All programs should be free software and preferably designed to linux, I will include wine but only like last resource for teachers who are very attached to some software windows

The aesthetics of the system had to be as similar to windows xp / This is for the user who comes from windows (most students) do not feel out of place in a new system, you only notice the difference in better performance

Must satisfy any hardware and initial tests will be made in extreme conditions (Pentium III 256M ram) / Most educational laboratories have to work using very old machines and the constant complaint is the slowness of the computer under Windows systems

Contributors:
Galbi
nilsonmorales
LazY Puppy
peebee
Burn_IT
maoriveros
synth (turbopuppy)
cthisbear
sidders
Wognath
emil


PD: any educational software you wan share for my puplet please post the link or the sfs or pet file, im going to put all the names of the helpers on the system.

Thanks in advance for the sugestions and sfs or pets


......................................................
working in this moment:
Im testing a distro based on turbopuppy, instal perfect on old machines (256m ram) but this distro have the following problems:

-Its very hard get wifi connection, because the network wizard cant identify by itself if is wap or wep .... Confused

-Some times lost the desktop because is using conky but any change go to rox


-The usb dont get mount, have to use an app to use them

-Im looking for a kind of active desktop for puppy (full html on the desktop background)

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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2015, 20:04    Post subject:  

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=49124

sidders released quite a few Hansamben Puppies.

Fantastic stuff...

Everything is here

http://www.mydrive.ch/

username : puppy@sidders

Password: puppylinux

Untick the security.SSL ??????????

From his last post.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=56557&start=30

Chris
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guardemon


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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2015, 15:51    Post subject:  

cthisbear wrote:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=49124

sidders released quite a few Hansamben Puppies.
Chris


Thanks! I saw a gcompris with just 50m in his repo Shocked im going to use that!

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Wognath

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2015, 15:53    Post subject:  

I'm a big fan of Emil's repo of math software, mostly university level:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=95568

Best wishes for your project.
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2015, 16:08    Post subject: work work work
Subject description: www.tinwok.com
 

working on the website


www.tinwok.com


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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2015, 22:08    Post subject:  

Wognath wrote:
I'm a big fan of Emil's repo of math software, mostly university level:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=95568

Best wishes for your project.


Great! im going to check that Smile

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2015, 22:20    Post subject:  

Wognath wrote:
I'm a big fan of Emil's repo of math software, mostly university level:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=95568

Best wishes for your project.


Geogebra
Maxima
Octave
Yacas

Shocked Ty

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2015, 12:08    Post subject:  

Interesting. As a retired Physics/Chemistry and Mathematics Educator I can help.

One 3d rendering system I use is PovRay to do math based 3D system and its C like language used to program. I have used it to help explain shapes and the math related. Found some student have an odd ability to use this to show latent mathematical talent that otherwise could not be expressed. Lot of good examples .

I also use POVRAY with WINE for its editor. But can be compiled easily ( easier than anything else of its type ) in just about any Architecture, 32 64 and ARM based cpus and ran directly from commandline.
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ASRI éducation


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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2015, 15:07    Post subject:  

Interesting project.
I will follow the discussion.
Regards

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2015, 20:45    Post subject:  

Ted Dog wrote:
Interesting. As a retired Physics/Chemistry and Mathematics Educator I can help.

One 3d rendering system I use is PovRay to do math based 3D system and its C like language used to program. I have used it to help explain shapes and the math related. Found some student have an odd ability to use this to show latent mathematical talent that otherwise could not be expressed. Lot of good examples .

I also use POVRAY with WINE for its editor. But can be compiled easily ( easier than anything else of its type ) in just about any Architecture, 32 64 and ARM based cpus and ran directly from commandline.



Of curse you can help!!! you have the experience I'm just giving my first steps on Linux

In the past i was using 3dcanvas (i think is a pov ray based program) and was very cool for the class, the program have some tools called boolean operations and you can explain basic maths like: groups, addition, using base figures, also you can make some nice animations this was made for my childrens of 5th grade (10 to 12 years) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1m00z-JpAM

povray is free? if it is not maybe i can use the free version of 3dcanvas and wine.... but im really dont want use windows based program for the distro, im not sure because some users of free software have a kind of rejection for that line of software

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2015, 20:53    Post subject:  

ASRI éducation wrote:
Interesting project.
I will follow the discussion.
Regards


I saw your Repo its very cool Shocked

but the most cool stuff is in french Sad

I saw you was using some games, im looking something like "age of empires" a multiplayer (for 20 machines very low resource) what do you recomend?

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2015, 10:27    Post subject:  

POV-Ray is the free part of free version of canvas not the other way around. Canvas only uses a definite subset of PovRay as its processor of the actual image rendering. PovRay is opensourced and provides precompiled versions for Windows and in the past Macs, Linux and new Macs have to compile there own (but even with its complexity it is a good starter MASSIVE compile since its self contained source ) By massive it took just under an hour on my ARMed base media player to compile. But only 4 minutes on my server grade multicore with sourse and baseOS running from a RAM only system ( No Harddrive used )
The editor in windows version is bundled and not unencumbered by use with open source, it is not include in open source version but also freeware so I use it with WINE. The Windows version is all GUI, and Linux/unix version is commandline driven. Both have benefits.
I use POVRay for engineering work due to such strong math libraries. I am sure matrix math exists in Linux somewhere else but its nice to SEE it as well as use it for processing. I use it for constructing/visualized hyparbolic spaceframes for house sizes not the mega dome sized structures. Its the cheapest roof shapes to build. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2015, 10:40    Post subject:  

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLMyL1k1rajd5SKEWgXFYMwq9rNyY6r_Yi&v=pPHftizSH3I

Here is the main guy who developed the cost saving consept. He still draws by hand and makes scale models, the design with the garage looks very much like a set of PovRay images I shared with him. I have located a few more hypar shapes by others and also encoded them.

He must have made that video shortly after our talking. At 1:37 in his video is a hand drawn version of one of the povmodels models sent, His shading has improved as well. Also topic of discussion is overhangs needed for cross gables hypar homes are being addressed in multiple forms.
He also sent me the scans of all the photos shown and so much more it choked off my inbox. Its cool to see that he actually took to heart my vision that hypar shaped homes for developed countries could also help the ultra poor like me get a roof over our heads.
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2015, 13:09    Post subject: Turbopup updated  

You say you are using Turbopup. Darry 1966 submitted in October last an update of Turbopup. He did not take my suggestion to make a new thread, so you may have missed it ?

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40477&start=690
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2015, 14:29    Post subject:  

guardemon wrote:
ASRI éducation wrote:
Interesting project.
I will follow the discussion.
Regards


I saw your Repo its very cool Shocked

but the most cool stuff is in french Sad

I saw you was using some games, im looking something like "age of empires" a multiplayer (for 20 machines very low resource) what do you recomend?

Hello guardemon,
For several years (2009), I propose a French edutainment version of Puppy (ASRI Edu).
This version is designed for children aged 3 to 12 years.
The next version (planned in the coming weeks), will be available in English and French.
We can probably consider some exchanges ...
Regards

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