YAD - Tips

[fredx181]

@misko

Fredx, If you move the current time to the window title bar, can you think of anything that you would use the first tab for?

Thanks, on itself it's nice, but I'm not sure about it because on my setup the text in the title bar is moving so much (probably depends on font type used for title bar, if it would be Monospace type it should be ok)

@vovchik

I like the idea of the current time in the window bar. As for the empty area, what about a checkbox (relative time) and spinbox for relative time-setting (i.e. in fifteen mintues)?

Something to keep in mind, thanks.

@Argolance

I had fun internationalizing the first version.... Maybe a little too soon?

Yes probably

As for the empty area, what about a checkbox (relative time) and spinbox for relative time-setting (i.e. in fifteen mintues)?

Sorry, I do not understand what you mean.

I think vovchik refers to misko's example where the top part of the GUI is sort of useless (as current time is already displayed on title bar) and can be used for some other options like spinbox for setting relative time (e.g. alarm after 15 min).

Fred

[Argolance]

Bonsoir,
Thank you!
Right click menu doesn't seem to work here.
IMO, self containing is great from a coding point of view but less from a visual point of view.
May I make a suggestion: I think that the window title: Alarm, the head text "S e t A l a r m" and the button text "Set alarm" are redundant. "S e t A l a r m" as window title, no "S e t A l a r m" before current time and just OK for the button?
And what about "aplay" and "/usr/share/audio/2barks.wav" as defaults?

Cordialement.

[fredx181]

Right click menu doesn't seem to work here.

Strange... works for me, could it be because you directly paste the code in terminal ?
Then it doesn't work because of the menu code contaning "!"

IMO, self containing is great from a coding point of view but less from a visual point of view.

My reason to like self containing in general is because it works OOTB copying the code into a script and run it without needing extras.
But we can make later on a .pet containing icons with your setup of course.

May I make a suggestion: I think that the window title: Alarm, the head text "S e t A l a r m" and the button text "Set alarm" are redundant. "S e t A l a r m" as window title, no "S e t A l a r m" before current time and just OK for the button?

Yes, fine for me.

And what about "aplay" and "/usr/share/audio/2barks.wav" as defaults?

Not sure, aplay cannot play all audio types (2barks.wav should be ok, although not available in all systems)

Fred

[Argolance]

could it be because you directly paste the code in terminal ?
Then it doesn't work because of the menu contaning "!"

Sorry, yes it is!

But we can make later on a .pet containing icons with your setup of course.

I don't particularly like "my" icons but I find that the red circles are less explicit: you can't guess what it is, it could be any other warning. IMO, it's not slight enough (I mean a bit too noticeable) and we don't know what it's about.

Not sure, aplay cannot play all audio types (2barks.wav should be ok, although not available in all systems)

Not sure simple user know where and how to find/type any other player than mplayer which may not be present on all Puppies. Select one of the players installed on the system and listed in the box (using the command "which" or something else)?
Regarding the famous Puppy "waw waw", I was convinced that it was present on all puppies...

Something else: repeat value=0 > repeat endlessly?

Cheers!

Cordialement.

[fredx181]

Hi all, Re: alarm script, just to let you know, I'm struggling with it, trying to keep support for multiple alarms set and at the same time adding extra options, such as canceling and stopping the alarm (from tray) makes it extra complicated, but I'll probably come up with something within the next days (including some suggestions, thanks Argolance).

Fred

[Argolance]

@fredx181
See you soon and good luck!

[misko_2083]

Hi all, Re: alarm script, just to let you know, I'm struggling with it, trying to keep support for multiple alarms set and at the same time adding extra options, such as canceling and stopping the alarm (from tray) makes it extra complicated, but I'll probably come up with something within the next days (including some suggestions, thanks Argolance).

Fred

Well, you could try "at" command instead of sleep.
That at daemon survives reboot even.

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at -l       # will list pending jobs (or atq)
at -r <num> # will remove job <num>  (or atrm)

Vovchik, relative time is a good idea.

[Argolance]

Vovchik, relative time is a good idea.

I asked above what this means: "relative" time?

[misko_2083]

@Agrolemon, At Sunset, at dawn, at full moon, tomorrow afternoon, at lunchtime, when the fat lady sings...
Well, something like that

[Argolance]

@misko_2083
Don't laugh: I didn't understand because in French, the word "relative" can be understood as the opposite of "absolute" whereas in English, it means "which is related to"!
We call them false or fake friends!
Cheers.

[vovchik]

Dear argolance et al.,

Here is a version using your icon style - but as a self-contained tiny svg. What do you think?

With kind regards,
vovchik

[Argolance]

Bonsoir,

What do you think?

I think it's all good, using these icons or any others!
Thank you a lot.
The fact that the icons are contained in the script itself is a real plus. As fredx181 points out, it works "out of the box"! I thought the possible forms were limited, but I was wrong.
On my side, just for fun, I played with the script - this lets me to better understand how yad works - and possible icon themes (... that maybe be changed into svg files?)

Cordialement.

[fredx181]

Very nice, Argolance and vovchik !! , looks like you have a similar degree of obsession with this as I have

Fred

[vovchik]

Dear all,

Here is the script with a throbbing alarm bell svg.

With kind regards,
vovchik

[misko_2083]

@misko_2083
Don't laugh: I didn't understand because in French, the word "relative" can be understood as the opposite of "absolute" whereas in English, it means "which is related to"!
We call them false or fake friends!
Cheers.

English, French are two crazy languages in which the pronunciation doesn't match the written word.

Freddie "at" command?

[fredx181]

A L A R M !!


Hi, no need to be alarmed it's just about a new alarm script (attached) with changes and improvements.
Mostly focused on being able to cancel and stop the alarm even in case of multiple alarms.
Also tried putting together the ideas and suggestions into it, e.g.
- Repeat can be set to 0, which means infinite
- Tray icon will change from "waiting" icon to "running" icon when the alarm sound starts playing.
- The alarm can be shut off (once running) by right-click the icon > Stop alarm and exit tray
- The GUI a little changed
@Argolance, would be nice if you change to your liking and share (the big alarm clock icon you showed is nice), if you want of course.
Note in case you will translate, there's one function depending on "Set to" phrase: Alarm is running in the background... Set to $hr:$mn Changing "Set to" may make canceling fail. (don't know if is important, just mentioning)
@misko, thanks for "at" recommendation, maybe comes in handy for later.
@vovchik, I initially wanted to use your .svg icon setup with the "Argolance" icons, but found that on one of my systems, they show as empty (transparent) image, any idea why ?
EDIT: Few minutes later, re-attached, made small change on the GUI.

EDIT 2019-12-05: Canceling from tray needed a fix, should work now, re-attached.
See also here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 88#1043688

Fred

[vovchik]

Dear Fred,

Good question why the argolance SVGs show up blank on that machine. Is in a compositing "feature" or alpha-channel problem with the Xorg? I've not experienced it before, but it could be that the gdk_pixbuf_loader (which normally handles icon loading within gtk progs) on that system only partially supports svgs, or the yad there was compiled without cairo? I am just speculating.... Weird.

With kind regards,
vovchik

[fredx181]

Hi vovchik, just for info, it's on the same computer, same yad version, but diiferent Debian version (Buster, on Stretch it works fine), it's not only with yad, btw, with viewnior (image viewer) its shows empty too.
All the other "pre-made" .svg's from you are showing correctly on Buster, btw. Weird indeed... Not a complaint or big problem, just like to understand why. I'll test some more later.

Fred

[Argolance]

Hello,
Thank you fredx181!
Sorry I didn't answer earlier, but I wasn't home.

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(yad:12506): GLib-WARNING **: g_strcompress: trailing \

I saw somewhere on the web that this warning is a result of wrong command line which must be escaped in a bash fashion.
When I cancel tray and exit from the right click menu, the systray icon is closed but the process not... and the bells ring!
As for internationalization, this time I'll wait a little while for the script to be fully finalized.

[EDIT] Additional question:
Now, to understand how YAD works (for me it is still largely mysterious because the logic is very "special"...), how to move the Set command

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'bash -c "alrm %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9"'

to a usual "OK" button placed down the window, close to a "Cancel" one?

Thanks.
Cordialement.

Cordialement.

[fredx181]

Hi Argolance,

(yad:12506): GLib-WARNING **: g_strcompress: trailing \

Yes, thats because of a small mistake I made in the yad code, part of the GUI code at the bottom should be this:

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yad --plug="$$" --tabnum=1 --form --cycle-read --columns=2 --field="\t\t\t\t\Current Time:\t\t: " --field="               \t\t\t\t\t\t:lbl" &

(without extra \ after \t\t\t\t\t\t)
But it's just a warning, as far as I know it doesn't affect how things work.

When I cancel tray and exit from the right click menu, the systray icon is closed but the process not... and the bells ring!

Strange... works ok for me, I guess you mean right-click on the "waiting" icon and "Cancel Alarm and Exit tray"
I tested just now in Xenialpup also and works well for me.
Could be that you edited things in script (e.g. for translation) ?

Now, to understand how YAD works (for me it is still largely mysterious because the logic is very "special"...), how to move the Set command
Code:
'bash -c "alrm %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9"
to a usual "OK" button placed down the window, close to a "Cancel" one?

Yeah, sure,"special", it should be possible to move the Set button to a usual "OK" button placed down the window, but then it will close the dialog (which I prefer not to) and also requires a completely different setup AFAIK to get all the variables from the fields.

EDIT:

but then it will close the dialog

that may be wrong

Fred