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Quirky April 7.0 - 7.0.3, 7.0.4, 7.0.4.1
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 6726
Location: Kentucky
PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 01:43    Post subject:  
April 7.0.3 live cd on an old 32 bit box with only 2 gb of ram.

All basics working on initial boot...planning to try the install script a nit later.
Code:

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April, version 7.0.3

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
  Loaded modules: dbe dri2 extmod glx kbd mouse present

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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Code:
Pup-SysInfo Hardware Report (Summary), Thu 9 Apr 2015

Current Time: 00:39:47
System Uptime: 11 min
Load Average: 0.32 0.25 0.16

▶—— BASE SYSTEM ——◀

PC Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTL, CO.,LTD.
Product Name: MS-7037

Motherboard Vendor: MICRO-STAR INTL, CO.,LTD.
Product Name: MS-7037

BIOS Vendor: Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Version: 6.00 PG
Release Date: 06/08/2004

Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Max Speed: 3066 MHz
Current Speed of Core 0:3000 MHz, 1:3000 MHz

temp1 (acpitz) : +40.0 C (high = +NA.0 C, crit = +75.0 C)

Memory Allocation:
 Total RAM: 2016 MB
 Used RAM: 1174 MB
 Free RAM: 842 MB
 Buffers: 10 MB
 Total Swap: 2099 MB
 Free Swap: 2099 MB

Linux Kernel: 3.17.8 (i686)
Kernel Version: #1 SMP Thu Jan 22 12:14:33 GMT-8 2015
PAE Enabled: No

Distro: Quirky April 7.0.3
Window Manager: JWM vgit-976
Desktop Start: xwin jwm


Ram usage at idle immediately after boot

Code:
# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       2065200      1094252       970948        22988        10120
-/+ buffers:            1084132       981068
Swap:      2150396            0      2150396
#


With SeaMonkey opened posting now

Code:
# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       2065200      1182984       882216        33904          672
-/+ buffers:            1182312       882888
Swap:      2150396            0      2150396
#



April64 probably tomorrow.
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jd7654

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 01:54    Post subject:  
Frugal install failure with April 7.0.3 live ISO.

This same machine had successful frugal install from live ISO with 7.0.2, A64X2 2GB RAM into EXT4 partition. Ran the install link from console and just had some error about not a block device:

Code:

# df
Filesystem     1K-blocks     Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/zram0       1394764   611780    782984  44% /
devtmpfs          947972        0    947972   0% /dev
shmfs             257996        0    257996   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1       61439604 58140568   3299036  95% /mnt/sda1
/dev/sda4       11568528  5745076   5688888  51% /mnt/sda4
# /usr/sbin/installquirky
1300+0 records in
1300+0 records out
1363148800 bytes (1.3GB) copied, 79.737294 seconds, 16.3MB/s
mkfs.ext2: /mnt/sda4/tmpwkgfs.q: not a block device
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 6726
Location: Kentucky
PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 02:08    Post subject:  
Same old box as other post. Booted into a full install of Tahrpup 6.0.2 and attempted a frugal install with the install script.

Download failed.

Code:
root# ./installquirky.x86
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing installquirky  100% 
ldd: /tmp/selfgz2181629544/syslinux: No such file or directory
PING www.google.com (173.194.219.103): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 173.194.219.103: seq=0 ttl=40 time=54.659 ms

--- www.google.com ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 54.659/54.659/54.659 ms
/usr/sbin/download_file: line 82: 27481 Terminated              rxvt -geometry 130x10+0+0 -bg "$BG" -fg "$FG" -title "$(gettext 'Testing file exists:') ${URLSPEC}" -e tail -f /tmp/download_file_spider.log1
/usr/sbin/download_file: line 248: 27558 Terminated              rxvt -geometry 130x10+0+0 -bg "$BG" -fg "$FG" -title "$(gettext 'Downloading file:') ${URLSPEC}" -e tail -f /tmp/download_file_spider.log2
/usr/sbin/download_file: line 82: 27614 Terminated              rxvt -geometry 130x10+0+0 -bg "$BG" -fg "$FG" -title "$(gettext 'Testing file exists:') ${URLSPEC}" -e tail -f /tmp/download_file_spider.log1
sha1sum: can't open './april-7.0.3.iso': No such file or directory
root#
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James C


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Location: Kentucky
PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 02:41    Post subject:  
Attempted a frugal install from the live cd. At the end of copying files there was an error message " Quirky installer: error Sorry,there was an error.Aborting."

The sizes of the copied files looked about right so I quickly edited the menu.lst (installer aborted before it got to that part) and rebooted.

Posting from April 7.0.3 frugal now but it refuses to save. April seems to think I'm running from the cd even though I booted from a frugal on the internal hdd.

Wonder if it has anything to do with the missing q.sfs?

About enough testing for tonight.
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 6726
Location: Kentucky
PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 03:51    Post subject:  
Just to remove some variables, just did a frugal install from the April 7.0.2 live cd. Same hardware, no problems at all.
Code:

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April, version 7.0.2

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
  Loaded modules: dbe dri2 extmod glx kbd mouse present

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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Code:
-Computer-
Processor      : 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Memory      : 2065MB (567MB used)
Operating System      : Unknown distribution
User Name      : root (root)
Date/Time      : Thu 09 Apr 2015 02:51:03 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution      : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer      : Unknown
X11 Vendor      : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter      : ICH4 - Intel ICH5



Code:
# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       2065200       979004      1086196        32864        10404
-/+ buffers:             968600      1096600
Swap:      2150396            0      2150396
#
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James C


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Location: Kentucky
PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 04:03    Post subject:  
Installed the service pack when offered,saved,rebooted and all seems well.

Code:
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April, version 7.0.3
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jd7654

Joined: 06 Apr 2015
Posts: 257
PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 04:36    Post subject:  
OK, I figured out my problem with April 7.0.3 frugal install failure:
The installquirky GUI installer is very particular about which platform you run it from for frugal install.

First tries on Athlon machine 2GB:
Install from Live 7.0.3 ISO - Failed/Abort (not a block device error)
Then tried install from other OS on same box:
Quirky 6.1.4 - installer failed to even start, error with liblzma.so.5

Then tried from Puppies:
Slacko 5.7 - FAIL/Abort (not a block device error)
Precise 5.7.1 - FAIL/Abort (not a block device error)
(previously, only Slacko and Precise and higher were needed to install Quirkies)

On to another machine, Core2Duo 2GB:
Install from Live 7.0.3 ISO - Failed/Abort (not a block device error)
From Quirky 6.0.5 ... SUCCESS!!!
Hmmm...maybe it likes Tahr...

Back to 1st machine:
From Tahr 6.0.2 - SUCCESS!!!

So the installquirky seems very finicky about where you run it from for the frugal install. It likes Tahr flavors, but doesn't even like it run from itself inside live 7.0.3 environment!?

OK, I'm done for the night...


edit: previous successful installs of April 7.0.3 to USB flash and to HD partition were done from Quirky 6.2 and April 7.0.2.
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mavrothal


Joined: 24 Aug 2009
Posts: 2977
PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 05:15    Post subject:  
Tried the installquirky.x86 installer.
The vbox of the first dialog (IQ_DLGF) of the /tmp/selfgzNUMBER/installquirky script may need to be scrollable, because there are cases (as the picture shows) that runs out of the screen and is not usable.
This may also be true for other dialogs in the process latter as they will not fit in a small (VGA) screen. (I used "<vbox scrollable=\"true\" space-expand=\"true\" space-fill=\"true\" width=\"600\" height=\"600\">" in line 219)
Also it would be nice if it could provide a download site choice as ibiblio is particularly slow. (when I changed install-quirky-to-... script to use a faster site failed of some problem with the hash file)
BTW, is there any reason that the script is using a windows-specific encoding (cp1252)? Makes it a bit tricky to review it in puppy as geany will open it to a blank file.
More when the ibiblio download finishes...
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 05:22    Post subject:  
jd7654 wrote:
...The Quirky Installer window is a little too tall for the 1024x600 screen and the bottom two elements are not visible. But I knew what they were from running on another desktop, so I tabbed through it blindly OK.


Just a friendly hint as an alternative to "blindly tabbing"

Keeping Alt key pressed
you can move any window
with left mouse tab pressed.
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Bert


Joined: 30 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 06:00    Post subject:  
Perfect upgrade from 7.02 to 7.0.3 using the service pack.
Wow, insanely fast booting!

Gratefully,
Bert
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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 06:57    Post subject:  
Bert wrote:
insanely fast booting!

Any spacial setting?
My slacko-5.7 full install boots in 14 seconds. In the same hardware and a different partition of the same hard drive April 7.0.3 boots in 15 seconds.
What am I missing? Confused
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 07:32    Post subject:  
mavrothal wrote:
Bert wrote:
insanely fast booting!

Any spacial setting?


No, I was just comparing the April 7.0.3 boot time to the April 7.0.2 boot time. Didn't measure anything. The felt difference was remarkable.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 08:30    Post subject:  
unicorn316386 wrote:
Installed 7.0.3 Full on ext4 Partition. All is well. Smile
Boot up is fastest of all Puppies I've tried (6 seconds?). Using only 90MB of RAM on startup.

Only tiny hiccup was that I had to save "april-7.0.3.usfs.xz" (141MB) manually from don570's link to hard drive (mnt/sda2) outside of RAM because my RAM was too full (11MB free) to use automatic method from install (which tries to save file inside RAM).

.


Yeah, this is the main problem with the Installer, when the "working space" is inadequate. That is at top of the list to fix.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 08:38    Post subject:  
jd7654 wrote:
Tried the GUI installer with 7.0.3 and let it download option. Got an error when it tried to save file to /tmp location. It didn't ask to save somewhere else where there was more space. So I just grabbed the file manually and install went fine. Installed to USB flash and HD partition.

Tried the ISO. Frugal install option went away for netbook. Install link just runs GUI installer for drive or partition. Assume it was hard denial by the under 1.2 GB RAM tick box, whereas on 7.0.2 it let it slide?

The HD install footprint really is getting smaller, nice! It was under 500MB on 6.1.4 and then blew up to around a Gig for 6.0.5 and 6.2. April was 800MB but now down to 600MB with 7.0.3.


Yes again, this not-enough-space is at top of my list to fix.

So for now, message to everyone, better to download the Quirky file, somewhere with plenty of space, then run the Installer.

jd7654,
In your case the Installer wants to download into /tmp. I never encountered a problem with that, as I am testing on a laptop with 4GB RAM, and the tmpfs mounted on /tmp has a quite large maximum size limit.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 08:53    Post subject: Quirky April 7.0.3 final  
I did another installation from Mint 17 64bit to a 128gb usb 3.0 ssd.

I added radky's FbBox-2.0 + some other pets.

It's working well.
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