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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6734 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 01:43 Post subject:
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April 7.0.3 live cd on an old 32 bit box with only 2 gb of ram.
All basics working on initial boot...planning to try the install script a nit later.
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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April, version 7.0.3
Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 extmod glx kbd mouse present
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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Code: | Pup-SysInfo Hardware Report (Summary), Thu 9 Apr 2015
Current Time: 00:39:47
System Uptime: 11 min
Load Average: 0.32 0.25 0.16
▶—— BASE SYSTEM ——◀
PC Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTL, CO.,LTD.
Product Name: MS-7037
Motherboard Vendor: MICRO-STAR INTL, CO.,LTD.
Product Name: MS-7037
BIOS Vendor: Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Version: 6.00 PG
Release Date: 06/08/2004
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Max Speed: 3066 MHz
Current Speed of Core 0:3000 MHz, 1:3000 MHz
temp1 (acpitz) : +40.0 C (high = +NA.0 C, crit = +75.0 C)
Memory Allocation:
Total RAM: 2016 MB
Used RAM: 1174 MB
Free RAM: 842 MB
Buffers: 10 MB
Total Swap: 2099 MB
Free Swap: 2099 MB
Linux Kernel: 3.17.8 (i686)
Kernel Version: #1 SMP Thu Jan 22 12:14:33 GMT-8 2015
PAE Enabled: No
Distro: Quirky April 7.0.3
Window Manager: JWM vgit-976
Desktop Start: xwin jwm |
Ram usage at idle immediately after boot
Code: | # free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 2065200 1094252 970948 22988 10120
-/+ buffers: 1084132 981068
Swap: 2150396 0 2150396
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With SeaMonkey opened posting now
Code: | # free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 2065200 1182984 882216 33904 672
-/+ buffers: 1182312 882888
Swap: 2150396 0 2150396
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April64 probably tomorrow.
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jd7654
Joined: 06 Apr 2015 Posts: 297
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 01:54 Post subject:
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Frugal install failure with April 7.0.3 live ISO.
This same machine had successful frugal install from live ISO with 7.0.2, A64X2 2GB RAM into EXT4 partition. Ran the install link from console and just had some error about not a block device:
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# df
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/zram0 1394764 611780 782984 44% /
devtmpfs 947972 0 947972 0% /dev
shmfs 257996 0 257996 0% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1 61439604 58140568 3299036 95% /mnt/sda1
/dev/sda4 11568528 5745076 5688888 51% /mnt/sda4
# /usr/sbin/installquirky
1300+0 records in
1300+0 records out
1363148800 bytes (1.3GB) copied, 79.737294 seconds, 16.3MB/s
mkfs.ext2: /mnt/sda4/tmpwkgfs.q: not a block device
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6734 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 02:08 Post subject:
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Same old box as other post. Booted into a full install of Tahrpup 6.0.2 and attempted a frugal install with the install script.
Download failed.
Code: | root# ./installquirky.x86
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing installquirky 100%
ldd: /tmp/selfgz2181629544/syslinux: No such file or directory
PING www.google.com (173.194.219.103): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 173.194.219.103: seq=0 ttl=40 time=54.659 ms
--- www.google.com ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 54.659/54.659/54.659 ms
/usr/sbin/download_file: line 82: 27481 Terminated rxvt -geometry 130x10+0+0 -bg "$BG" -fg "$FG" -title "$(gettext 'Testing file exists:') ${URLSPEC}" -e tail -f /tmp/download_file_spider.log1
/usr/sbin/download_file: line 248: 27558 Terminated rxvt -geometry 130x10+0+0 -bg "$BG" -fg "$FG" -title "$(gettext 'Downloading file:') ${URLSPEC}" -e tail -f /tmp/download_file_spider.log2
/usr/sbin/download_file: line 82: 27614 Terminated rxvt -geometry 130x10+0+0 -bg "$BG" -fg "$FG" -title "$(gettext 'Testing file exists:') ${URLSPEC}" -e tail -f /tmp/download_file_spider.log1
sha1sum: can't open './april-7.0.3.iso': No such file or directory
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6734 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 02:41 Post subject:
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Attempted a frugal install from the live cd. At the end of copying files there was an error message " Quirky installer: error Sorry,there was an error.Aborting."
The sizes of the copied files looked about right so I quickly edited the menu.lst (installer aborted before it got to that part) and rebooted.
Posting from April 7.0.3 frugal now but it refuses to save. April seems to think I'm running from the cd even though I booted from a frugal on the internal hdd.
Wonder if it has anything to do with the missing q.sfs?
About enough testing for tonight.
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6734 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 03:51 Post subject:
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Just to remove some variables, just did a frugal install from the April 7.0.2 live cd. Same hardware, no problems at all.
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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April, version 7.0.2
Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 extmod glx kbd mouse present
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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Code: | -Computer-
Processor : 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Memory : 2065MB (567MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 09 Apr 2015 02:51:03 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5 |
Code: | # free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 2065200 979004 1086196 32864 10404
-/+ buffers: 968600 1096600
Swap: 2150396 0 2150396
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6734 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 04:03 Post subject:
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Installed the service pack when offered,saved,rebooted and all seems well.
Code: | # report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky April, version 7.0.3 |
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jd7654
Joined: 06 Apr 2015 Posts: 297
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 04:36 Post subject:
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OK, I figured out my problem with April 7.0.3 frugal install failure:
The installquirky GUI installer is very particular about which platform you run it from for frugal install.
First tries on Athlon machine 2GB:
Install from Live 7.0.3 ISO - Failed/Abort (not a block device error)
Then tried install from other OS on same box:
Quirky 6.1.4 - installer failed to even start, error with liblzma.so.5
Then tried from Puppies:
Slacko 5.7 - FAIL/Abort (not a block device error)
Precise 5.7.1 - FAIL/Abort (not a block device error)
(previously, only Slacko and Precise and higher were needed to install Quirkies)
On to another machine, Core2Duo 2GB:
Install from Live 7.0.3 ISO - Failed/Abort (not a block device error)
From Quirky 6.0.5 ... SUCCESS!!!
Hmmm...maybe it likes Tahr...
Back to 1st machine:
From Tahr 6.0.2 - SUCCESS!!!
So the installquirky seems very finicky about where you run it from for the frugal install. It likes Tahr flavors, but doesn't even like it run from itself inside live 7.0.3 environment!?
OK, I'm done for the night...
edit: previous successful installs of April 7.0.3 to USB flash and to HD partition were done from Quirky 6.2 and April 7.0.2.
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mavrothal

Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 3089
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 05:15 Post subject:
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Tried the installquirky.x86 installer.
The vbox of the first dialog (IQ_DLGF) of the /tmp/selfgzNUMBER/installquirky script may need to be scrollable, because there are cases (as the picture shows) that runs out of the screen and is not usable.
This may also be true for other dialogs in the process latter as they will not fit in a small (VGA) screen. (I used "<vbox scrollable=\"true\" space-expand=\"true\" space-fill=\"true\" width=\"600\" height=\"600\">" in line 219)
Also it would be nice if it could provide a download site choice as ibiblio is particularly slow. (when I changed install-quirky-to-... script to use a faster site failed of some problem with the hash file)
BTW, is there any reason that the script is using a windows-specific encoding (cp1252)? Makes it a bit tricky to review it in puppy as geany will open it to a blank file.
More when the ibiblio download finishes...
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L18L
Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 3450 Location: www.eussenheim.de/
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 05:22 Post subject:
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jd7654 wrote: | ...The Quirky Installer window is a little too tall for the 1024x600 screen and the bottom two elements are not visible. But I knew what they were from running on another desktop, so I tabbed through it blindly OK. |
Just a friendly hint as an alternative to "blindly tabbing"
Keeping Alt key pressed
you can move any window
with left mouse tab pressed.
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Bert

Joined: 30 Jun 2006 Posts: 1107
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 06:00 Post subject:
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Perfect upgrade from 7.02 to 7.0.3 using the service pack.
Wow, insanely fast booting!
Gratefully,
Bert
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mavrothal

Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 3089
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 06:57 Post subject:
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Bert wrote: | insanely fast booting! |
Any spacial setting?
My slacko-5.7 full install boots in 14 seconds. In the same hardware and a different partition of the same hard drive April 7.0.3 boots in 15 seconds.
What am I missing?
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Bert

Joined: 30 Jun 2006 Posts: 1107
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 07:32 Post subject:
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mavrothal wrote: | Bert wrote: | insanely fast booting! |
Any spacial setting?
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No, I was just comparing the April 7.0.3 boot time to the April 7.0.2 boot time. Didn't measure anything. The felt difference was remarkable.
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BarryK
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Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 9099 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 08:30 Post subject:
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unicorn316386 wrote: | Installed 7.0.3 Full on ext4 Partition. All is well.
Boot up is fastest of all Puppies I've tried (6 seconds?). Using only 90MB of RAM on startup.
Only tiny hiccup was that I had to save "april-7.0.3.usfs.xz" (141MB) manually from don570's link to hard drive (mnt/sda2) outside of RAM because my RAM was too full (11MB free) to use automatic method from install (which tries to save file inside RAM).
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Yeah, this is the main problem with the Installer, when the "working space" is inadequate. That is at top of the list to fix.
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BarryK
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Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 9099 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 08:38 Post subject:
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jd7654 wrote: | Tried the GUI installer with 7.0.3 and let it download option. Got an error when it tried to save file to /tmp location. It didn't ask to save somewhere else where there was more space. So I just grabbed the file manually and install went fine. Installed to USB flash and HD partition.
Tried the ISO. Frugal install option went away for netbook. Install link just runs GUI installer for drive or partition. Assume it was hard denial by the under 1.2 GB RAM tick box, whereas on 7.0.2 it let it slide?
The HD install footprint really is getting smaller, nice! It was under 500MB on 6.1.4 and then blew up to around a Gig for 6.0.5 and 6.2. April was 800MB but now down to 600MB with 7.0.3. |
Yes again, this not-enough-space is at top of my list to fix.
So for now, message to everyone, better to download the Quirky file, somewhere with plenty of space, then run the Installer.
jd7654,
In your case the Installer wants to download into /tmp. I never encountered a problem with that, as I am testing on a laptop with 4GB RAM, and the tmpfs mounted on /tmp has a quite large maximum size limit.
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Billtoo

Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 3680 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 08:53 Post subject:
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I did another installation from Mint 17 64bit to a 128gb usb 3.0 ssd.
I added radky's FbBox-2.0 + some other pets.
It's working well.
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