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paulh177


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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2016, 06:04    Post subject:  

aha.
sandbox it seems to be ... runs as expected (albeit rather slowly on my ageing atom-powered aspire netbook) with the --no-sandbox parameter ... not without some errors however.

thanks mcewanw


Code:

# vivaldi-stable --no-sandbox --user-data-dir /root/.vivaldi
[11973:11973:0503/110009:ERROR:browser_main_loop.cc(219)] Running without the SUID sandbox! See https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/linux_suid_sandbox_development.md for more information on developing with the sandbox on.
LaunchProcess: failed to execvp:
LaunchProcess: failed to execvp:
[12092:12092:0503/110015:ERROR:renderer_main.cc(207)] Running without renderer sandbox
[12096:12096:0503/110015:ERROR:renderer_main.cc(207)] Running without renderer sandbox
[12101:12101:0503/110015:ERROR:renderer_main.cc(207)] Running without renderer sandbox
LaunchProcess: failed to execvp:
LaunchProcess: failed to execvp:
[12325:12325:0503/110029:ERROR:renderer_main.cc(207)] Running without renderer sandbox
LaunchProcess: failed to execvp:
[12502:12502:0503/110043:ERROR:renderer_main.cc(207)] Running without renderer sandbox
LaunchProcess: failed to execvp:
[12763:12763:0503/110103:ERROR:renderer_main.cc(207)] Running without renderer sandbox
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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2016, 06:27    Post subject:  

Seems to be a couple of extra bits of useful info in this thread:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=898094

In particular I note vivaldi was being started up by a run-as-spot script at one part, but not having a Puppy running here, as I said, I can't check what that script contains.

Puppy forum member rockedge also comments something about changing permission of some files when running from root dir. Perhaps that has to do with running without argument --no-sandbox but I haven't checked.

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OscarTalks


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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2016, 06:30    Post subject:  

Yeah, the --no-sandbox argument is a bit blanket and harsh. Try the more specific --disable-setuid-sandbox and you may also need --disable-infobars if you get any annoying infobars. If those don't work try also adding --disable-namespace-sandbox but usually this is needed in Slacko but not in Precise. These options allow some sandboxing to still operate, but you will still always get some chatter in terminal.
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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2016, 15:35    Post subject:  

thanks OscarTalks, --disable-setuid-sandbox works ok, no problems with infobars.
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PostPosted: Mon 23 May 2016, 03:39    Post subject: G'day Phil, there seems to be a Problem w/ the Hosting site
Subject description: Can yoU or anybody eLse Mirror it Please
 

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OscarTalks


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PostPosted: Tue 24 May 2016, 09:46    Post subject:  

Vivaldi experimental packages updated to version 1.1.453.59
32bit only and intended for slightly older Puppies such as Slacko 5.7 and Precise and Wheezy but may also be OK in latest official Puppies.
Includes latest available 32bit Pepper Flash.
I am unable to test Netflix personally but it was working in the previous version and this one has the same configuration.

Note:- Other Vivaldi packages by other people are available. Mine are just me uploading a few of the things I tinker around with and if folks find them interesting or useful in any way then that is great.
https://yadi.sk/d/euoIiDRDqcFnK

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sheldonisaac

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PostPosted: Tue 24 May 2016, 11:51    Post subject: version 1.1.453.59  

OscarTalks wrote:
Vivaldi experimental packages updated to version 1.1.453.59
32bit only and intended for slightly older Puppies such as Slacko 5.7 and Precise and Wheezy but may also be OK in latest official Puppies.

Many thanks, OscarTalks. As before, it didn't work when I said vivaldi at the command line in Lucid Puppy.
It works under slim slacko.
Probably it's this one, https://archive.org/details/SlimSlacko6
Oh, here's a paste:

Quote:
Kernel : Linux 3.14.65 (i686)
Version : #1 SMP Thu Mar 17 23:02:56 EDT 2016
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.17 (stable)
Distribution : Slim Slacko - 6

Much appreciated.

May I diffidently ask what Vivaldi, Palemoon, and other modern browsers do for me (a basic Internet viewing person) that Opera 12.16 doesn't?

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PostPosted: Tue 24 May 2016, 20:10    Post subject:  

Downloaded vivaldi-1.1.453.59-i386.sfs to /mnt/home, ran SFS-Load on-the-fly, loaded vivaldi-1.1.453.59-i386.sfs.
It loaded OK, and I then chose to run it.
It ran OK. Very Happy

All of this within Slacko-5.7.0-pae.
I'll save the changes.
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Jun 2016, 14:16    Post subject:  

Vivaldi experimental packages updated to version 1.2.490.39
32bit only and intended for slightly older Puppies such as Slacko 5.7 and Precise and Wheezy but may also be OK in latest official Puppies.
Includes latest available 32bit Pepper Flash.
I am unable to test Netflix personally but it was working in a previous version and this one has the same configuration.

I have been using it a bit and it is growing on me as a possible rival to Slimjet in the Chromium derivative world.

Note:- Other Vivaldi packages by other people are available. Mine are just me uploading a few of the things I tinker around with and if folks find them interesting or useful in any way then that is great.
https://yadi.sk/d/euoIiDRDqcFnK

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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Jun 2016, 17:30    Post subject:  

Downloaded vivaldi-1.2.490.39-i386.sfs to /mnt/home, ran SFS-Load on-the-fly, loaded vivaldi-1.2.490.39-i386.sfs.
It loaded OK, and I then chose to run it.
It ran OK. Very Happy
Typing/posting this from the new Vivaldi now.
Netflix works.

All of this within Slacko-5.7.0-pae.
I'll save the changes.
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Jun 2016, 17:49    Post subject: why does Vivaldi say 64-bit recommended?  

Why does Vivaldi say 64-bit recommended?
https://vivaldi.net/en-US/teamblog/119-snapshot-1-2-490-32-vivaldi-1-2rc1

I've been using 32-bit (whatever that means) Puppy Linux for years, and haven't bothered to get the extra compatibility? libraries or whatever to use 32-bit software with a 64-bit Puppy Linux.

Thanks to anyone who feels like enlightening me.

Sheldon

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Jun 2016, 18:34    Post subject: Re: why does Vivaldi say 64-bit recommended?  

sheldonisaac wrote:
Why does Vivaldi say 64-bit recommended?
https://vivaldi.net/en-US/teamblog/119-snapshot-1-2-490-32-vivaldi-1-2rc1

I've been using 32-bit (whatever that means) Puppy Linux for years, and haven't bothered to get the extra compatibility? libraries or whatever to use 32-bit software with a 64-bit Puppy Linux.

Thanks to anyone who feels like enlightening me.

Sheldon

Who knows. The windows version says 32-bit recommended. Maybe they're trying to say that Linux 64-bit is better than Windows 64-bit, and that Windows went downhill ever since Windows XP. Yes, that must be it! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jul 2016, 12:55    Post subject: Re: why does Vivaldi say 64-bit recommended?  

sheldonisaac wrote:
Why does Vivaldi say 64-bit recommended?
https://vivaldi.net/en-US/teamblog/119-snapshot-1-2-490-32-vivaldi-1-2rc1

I've been using 32-bit (whatever that means) Puppy Linux for years, and haven't bothered to get the extra compatibility? libraries or whatever to use 32-bit software with a 64-bit Puppy Linux.

Thanks to anyone who feels like enlightening me.

Sheldon



Hi Sheldon. Hopefully I'm not wasting your time with simple stuff you already know, but I see no one else answered your question yet so I'm typing this in case it's new information for you - or some other reader.

A "bit" is a 1 or 0. 8-bit, 16-bit, 32-bit, 64-bit etc refer to how many bits the CPU or operating system will process at once.

As an example, one of the reasons Win 95 was a big deal at the time was that Microsoft moved from 16-bit DOS-based code to all new 32-bit code in that release, though Win 95 and Win 98 could still support 16-bit programs. Win XP dropped support for legacy 16-bit software, and XP and later versions of Windows have been available in 32- and 64-bit forms.

Nearly all processors in recent desktop or laptop machines are designed for 64-bit operations, but many of us are still using 32-bit operating systems.

A key point is that if we're using a 32-bit operating system, we can't run 64-bit programs. They simply won't work, as we'd be trying to force the operating system to process more data than it can handle. But if we use a 64-bit OS, we can still run 32-bit programs if we have an appropriate "bridge" enabled.

So the Vivaldi guys are saying that if you have a 64-bit OS, they recommend using the version of Vivaldi that was written in 64-bit form.

That doesn't apply to anyone using a 32-bit OS. We don't have a choice. The 64-bit version simply won't work for us, so we HAVE to go with the 32-bit one.

If you didn't know, this spring Google dropped support for Chrome in 32-bit versions of Linux, though Chrome continues in 64-bit form. Some software makers had already done the same with Windows programs, going strictly 64-bit.

I consider that a sign of the times - the major developers are starting to push us out of 32-bit into 64-bit. So if anyone out there is about to buy a new laptop, desktop or netbook computer with Windows pre-installed, it would probably be a good idea to make sure that it's a 64-bit version.

And within the Linux world, you might want to play around with 64-bit treats like Tahr 64 or Slacko 64 versions of Puppy or the 64-bit flavors of Ubuntu.

(I'm finding that Ubuntu Mate 64 is a fantastic version for newcomers to Linux or Ubuntu. If I ever learn enough and get brave enough to dip my toes in the WoofCE waters, I'd want to try making a 64-bit Puppy using that desktop environment.)
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Aug 2016, 11:23    Post subject:  

Vivaldi browser updated to (stable) version 1.3.551.38 (32bit)
Released late August 2016
Experimental packages tested briefly in Slacko 5.7 (with libgconf2 added) and Precise and Wheezy. Contains latest Pepper Flash at the time (tested) and Netflix modifications (not tested). Uploaded only for illustration and to invite any suggestions or comments.

Note:- Other Vivaldi packages by other people are available and the official .deb may work fine in some recent Puppies. Mine are just me uploading a few of the things I tinker around with and if folks find them interesting or useful in any way then that is great.
https://yadi.sk/d/euoIiDRDqcFnK

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Sep 2016, 17:00    Post subject:  

Vivaldi stable release 1.4.589.29 in slightly older Puppies like Precise and Wheezy now needs --no-sandbox argument. With the previous version --disable-setuid-sandbox was sufficient. Experimental packages uploaded. Includes updated Pepper Flash.
EDIT:- Now updated to 1.4.589.38 with Pepper Flash 23.0.0.205
https://yadi.sk/d/euoIiDRDqcFnK

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