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#76 Post by ICPUG »

Thank you for the info, OscarTalks.

Yes, the Opera in Lighthouse is the old Presto based Opera - Opera itself is version 11.1. This Lighthouse predates Slacko so you are right that I will need the libgconf2, at least - (if I knew where to find it). Otherwise I will have to use another Puppy - although I really like Lighthouse because of the tools it comes with (Conky, Wbar, Pwidgets, Wine - which I use to run portable Windows programmes with no problem at all).

Thanks once again for the info on the Vivaldi cache.

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#77 Post by Mike Walsh »

@ICPUG:-

You could give this version of libgconf2 a try. It's from Oscar's 'Smokey' repo.

http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/libgconf2-4.1.5-s14.pet

See how you get on with it. It's worked for me in several different non-Ubuntu-based Pups.

( Nice to know somebody else uses the Windows portable apps under WINE. Where d'you get yours from.....PortableApps.com? )


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#78 Post by davids45 »

G'day,
Having a bad day with Vivaldi & Iron, neither displaying images from a website (of hardware store products).

Non-chrome browsers are OK as far as I have checked (e.g. chromium, palemoon).
I'm struggling to find where in Vivaldi or Iron any 'settings' or 'preferences' are that I can turn off so these mundane images will show.

A non-useful-to-me "Privacy error" message sometimes shows before the images fail to load after I close the supposed "error" message.

The screenshots below show the blank spaces with Vivaldi and Iron and what should be there (the shot from Chromium).

No other website I use has been affected so it seems a 'disagreement' of sorts between the hardware store and the two Chrome-based browsers.

Any advice on how to turn off this 'feature' in Vivaldi & Iron gratefully received.

David S.

Post-script: Erratic problem?? Images now loaded in Vivaldi for the hardware site but in a different Pup; then with a bit more browsing, up popped another 'connection not private' message, this time for amazon.com!? Is there a 'turn off the paranoia' button in Chrome/Vivaldi/Iron?
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#79 Post by LateAdopter »

Hello davids45
Search on: google not-secure warning. Google announced this in September. They are putting pressure on websites to tidy-up the security aspects of their page design.
The warnings may vary as webmasters fix their errors to comply with Google's rules and browser developers may tone down the warnings or degoogle the chromium code.

EDIT There's a setting in chrome://flags to change the behaviour (or whatever your browser path URL is).

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#80 Post by ICPUG »

Thanks, Mike, for the pointer to the library file libgconf2.

I tried it with my Lighthouse Puppy and Vivaldi still didn't work. I then tried it with Slacko (5.3.3) and it still didn't work. More investigation required.

This is why I use Portable Windows Apps under Wine! They usually work without hassle.

I get them from PortableApps.com if they have what I want. Sometimes I download from a program's website but only if I can choose an archive library option and the program will run without Windows installation.

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Displaying images on sites problem

#81 Post by davids45 »

G'day LateAdopter,

Thanks for the suggestion re chrome://flags. I'll give it a try.

This morning, on loading one of the yesterday-affected sites in iron in a pupjibaro-jessie, the images were displayed, at least for the first page.

This erratic behaviour is a concern but hopefully your help will fix the pseudo-problem for chrome et al.

I'll report back if I see something useful.

David S.

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#82 Post by OscarTalks »

Vivaldi 1.10 is released but it is based on Chromium 59
It is 64bit only and requires GTK+3
I tested it in Tahr64 after installing libgtk-3.0 and it ran OK.
I won't be uploading any packages for the time being though.
I will leave the version 1.9 packages up for now as these may be the last ever 32bit / GTK+2 ones. I expect they will continue to work for quite a while.
https://yadi.sk/d/euoIiDRDqcFnK?force_show=1
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#83 Post by peebee »

OscarTalks wrote:Vivaldi 1.10 is released but it is based on Chromium 59
It is 64bit only and requires GTK+3
Opera-46-stable has gone the same way - 64 bit only:
Note that since this version we have dropped support for Linux i386.
in very small print!!!
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#84 Post by LateAdopter »

I see that the latest Vivaldi snapshot has a 32-bit version. The explanation is here: https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/146005

Saikrishna Arcot has 32bit builds of Chromium 60 beta here for 16.04 but 14.04 failed. https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+arc ... omium-beta

It's getting messy...

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#85 Post by OscarTalks »

Respect to the Vivaldi developers for working out how to patch the Chromium source code so it can still be compiled for 32bit.

The Vivaldi Snapshot version 1.11 is compiled against a later version of glibc and libstdc++, so unfortunately it won't run in Precise or Wheezy. Looks like 1.9 might still be the last one that works in those, unless they change their build environment to match the previous ones (which might not even be possible).

It does run in more recent 32bit Puppies though, that includes the current official ones and those that are in development. Tested briefly in Tahr 6.0.5 and Slacko 6.9.9.9 and Dpup Stretch.
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#86 Post by LateAdopter »

From packages.ubuntu.com:
2017-05-17
Reflect zesty release, add artful, remove precise.
I assume Vivaldi dropped support for Precise since it is EOL at Ubuntu.

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#87 Post by peebee »

Aimed at LxPupSc (32-bit) but may work on other pups (not tested).....

vivaldi_1.11.890.4_lxsc.sfs

No Flash - BBC iPlayer does not work, Youtube does.....

Probably a "one-off".....
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#88 Post by musher0 »

Hi peebee.

No Flash necessary, I think.

With Vivaldi, one would use Mike_Walsh's latest PepperFlash pet for Chrome,
since Vivaldi has a "Chrome heart", right?

I tested the older Vivaldi-1.9 with Mike's PepperFlash, and the combination
works great.

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new 32-bit browsers

#89 Post by gjuhasz »

peebee wrote:... may work on other pups (not tested)....
I just confirm that this sfs works on Puli. Needs only a few symlinks to access it as "vivaldi" instead of "vivaldi-snapshot". Thanks, peebee.
Same for the developer (beta?) version of tthe 32-bit Opera

https://deb.pkgs.org/universal/opera-i3 ... 6.deb.html Have fun!

Regards,

gjuhasz

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#90 Post by musher0 »

Hello all.

I've uploaded an sfs for Vivaldi-1.12_32 bit (the latest as of this writing),
with all languages provided by vivaldi, here:
http://augras.eu/documents/ws-default/Dpup_Stretch
under the Internet directory.

The md5 sum and the file tree of that sfs are at the bottom of this post.

This Vivaldi-1.12 (32-bit) comes with the pepperflash and libwidevinecdm
libraries included. Pepperflash needs no explanation as to why it's
included, but widevine is used for netflix streams in Canada and the US.
Should you need a future update for the widevine library, the update and
installation script from
https://gist.github.com/ruario/3c873d43 ... 4d29fe37f1
is included in /opt/vivaldi. Just re-run < /opt/vivaldi/latest-widevine.sh >
when you need to.

Since vivaldi takes a few seconds to launch, a wait panel is displayed while
it does. (Thanks to vovchik's bcm.)

This sfs has been adapted for PuppyLinux, from the Vivaldi *.deb archive
available at the vivaldi site, at
https://downloads.vivaldi.com/stable/vi ... 1_i386.deb

Enjoy.

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Important P. S. for those of you who have a frugal install.

Do not browse with vivaldi on first run. Do the first run, but
immediately afterwards, shut down vivaldi. Here's why:

There is a definite risk that a pupsave that's too small will not absorb all
the caches, etc., created in /opt/vivaldi/profile by vivaldi during browsing,
resulting in a freeze of your system.


Before you start browsing, it is strongly recommended that you move
dir. /opt/vivaldi/profile to a partition outside your pupsave (e.g. /mnt/home
or /mnt/sda2) and bring it back in /opt/vivaldi as a symbolic link.

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#91 Post by howardshippin »

Hi - that link for vivaldi doesn't seem to work properly... gives me an xml file with "SQLite3Result::fetchArray(): Unable to execute statement: database disk image is malformed". Tried also the augras.eu root directory and don't find vivaldi listed among the telechargements / downloads.

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#92 Post by OscarTalks »

Vivaldi 1.12 (stable) is based on Chromium 61
My slightly tweaked package runs out of the box quite nicely in Dpup Stretch.
That is why I uploaded it here:-
https://yadi.sk/d/nzC5YTU93MgVaf?force_show=1
For some of the other very recent Puppies you may find that you can get it to work without too many modifications.


In TahrPup 6.0.5 for example:-

1) Install libgtk-3 via PPM

2) Update PaleMoon to latest version because this has the newer NSS libs needed by Vivaldi 1.12

3) Make sure those newer NSS libs can be found and are given priority. There are various ways to do this, but one easy method is to add the /opt/palemoon directory to LD_LIBRARY_PATH in first position in the wrapper script /opt/vivaldi/vivaldi-pup thus:-

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export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/palemoon:/opt/vivaldi/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
For slightly earlier Puppies such as Precise, 14.0 Slackos and Dpup Wheezy there is still Vivaldi 1.9 with updated Pepper Flash here:-
https://yadi.sk/d/euoIiDRDqcFnK?force_show=1
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#93 Post by howardshippin »

Well, I eventually managed to install the 64-bit version of Vivaldi 1.12 made by Terry H (http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 9&t=111963), which worked after following the same instructions of Oscartalks for his 32-bit version and modifying the script so it didn't ask for -- no-sandbox.

With the 32-bit version of Oscartalks, in my 64-bit Tahr 6.05, there was a complaint about the wrong ELF class.



I was upgrading from a Vivaldi 1.9 64-bit Vivaldi.
Thanks everyone.

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#94 Post by OscarTalks »

Vivaldi 1.13.1008.44 (32bit)
This starts and runs in Xenial and Dpup Stretch (both of which have libgtk3 included).
For other/earlier Puppies you may need tweaks or additions or alternatively stick with an earlier Vivaldi.
This runs as root. The --no-sandbox argument is in the launcher script.
You can modify this script at /opt/vivaldi/vivaldi-pup to run as spot and activate sandbox if it is important to you. Not really sure if there are disadvantages to running as spot but this was always a bit of a workaround in Puppy.
You may find that Vivaldi 1.12 runs sweeter and this does run with sandbox as root.
For middle-aged Puppies use Vivaldi 1.9
https://yadi.sk/d/euoIiDRDqcFnK?force_show=1

EDIT:-
Also now TESTING Vivaldi 1.14.1077.50 (32bit)
Comments pretty much as above.
Comment out one line and uncomment one other line to switch from run as root to run as spot.
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