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mikeb


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PostPosted: Wed 08 Apr 2015, 04:48    Post subject:  

http://bkhome.org/sources/alphabetical/r/
ugh...yes a pile of patches i see... would seem like whoever builds rox for 32 bit pups needs to add my tweak perhaps...

mike

edit well since jamesbond has kindly made a patch then whoever is the maintainer bunny needs to merge it into the build... get yer swords ready.
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Apr 2015, 05:18    Post subject:  

Hmm just noticed the owner and group on the Rox binary is ftp:ftp ...wonder if that has an effect...indeed the sources i was using all have weird and wonderful ownership which was having a strange affects on the Rox apps folder.

Weird bleeding sources in general.

Mike
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Keisha

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Apr 2015, 06:24    Post subject: on compiling rox-filer  

By chance I was rummaging through the rox website http://rox.sourceforge.net/desktop/home.html and then happened upon this thread. That rox desktop Find command is nifty. Nice way to get Xara Extreme too.

I downloaded the rox-filer source by
Code:
git clone https://github.com/rox-desktop/rox-filer.git
and then copied the main.c and filer.c from mikeb into src, overwriting the originals; then did
Code:
./AppRun --compile
and thus obtained a shiny new Rox-Filer for my DebianDog, screencap below.

The "Dnotify support... No" part does not worry me, because Inotify supersedes it. Might be a problem on distro's made prior to the switchover, say mid-2006.

Of direct relevance to musher0's problem, however, might be the "Binary compatibility... No (apsymbols.h not found)" notification.

A bit of googling turns up the fact that the "binary compatibility" being spoken of is "GTK binary compatibility" --it seems that the rox I compiled might have issues on machines running earlier versions of libgtk-x11-2.0 than the libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.25 which I see in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu on this machine, according to this webpage:
http://rox.sourceforge.net/desktop/node/289

To plug a rox from one distro into another which uses an older version of libgtk-x11-2.0 is likely to give problems, unless rox was compiled "with gtk binary (backwards) compatibility" according to the guidelines on that webpage.

I must say, upgrading to this freshly-compiled rox 2.11 in DebianDog Jessie makes a noticeable difference in the speed with which rox does everything.
2015-04-08-024923_746x363_scrot.png
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2015-04-08-024923_746x363_scrot.png


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PostPosted: Wed 08 Apr 2015, 08:34    Post subject:  

Hmm yes that does seem to be about backward compatibility.

I build on Lucid with gtk 2.20 so may not have any impact in that respect with musher's problem.

There is mention of a focus patch in that bundle but without trawling through them its hard to say if anything is relevant...indeed this could be a new rox/wmx problem that has been highlighted.

Again who builds these roxes?
I have no connection with the devs here so my input is limited.

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Apr 2015, 13:41    Post subject:  

mikeb wrote:
...I build on Lucid with gtk 2.20 so may not have any impact in that respect with musher's problem...There is mention of a focus patch in that bundle...

Ah, I see. Both jamesbond and BarryK have several patches for rox-filer.

@musher: what Puppy are you running?

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Apr 2015, 16:16    Post subject:  

mikeb wrote:
serious ... this is the puppy linux forum isn't it Very Happy

Hmm curious..something that works better with jwm.

Well I did free that which should be freed but there may be other patches applied to the rox in puppy but otherwise cannot think of a reason offhand.
I used 2.11 ...check what version you had with ROX-filer -v

I assume the rox you had was ok with wmx?

If I find anything I will report.

mike


Really? You freed what? ... animals? ... slaves? ... prisoners? ... bytes?
Twisted Evil

My previous ROX was a run-of-the-mill v. 2.11 (not your hack) running
on a Puppy Precise 5.4.3 and wmx-8 / jwm. The wm didn't matter.

You wrote:
> Hmm curious..something that works better with jwm.
Strange indeed... Twisted Evil
It's got a nice ring to it, though. A sharp ad person could use it!

BFN.

musher0

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Apr 2015, 16:35    Post subject:  

freed...glib variables... they desire it... its primative stuff.
You literally allocate bytes in memory and then release again... the domain of buffer overflows... its tricky to get it to do anything meaningful let alone control your computer and any relatives that may live nearby.

Ok so the 2.11 you have...would be that which came with puppy? in other words patched in some way...

Keisha seems to have a bit of a handle on this ...

mike
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Apr 2015, 16:45    Post subject:  

mikeb wrote:
freed...glib variables... they desire it... its primative stuff.
You literally allocate bytes in memory and then release again... the domain of buffer overflows... its tricky to get it to do anything meaningful let alone control your computer and any relatives that may live nearby.

Ok so the 2.11 you have...would be that which came with puppy? in other words patched in some way...

Keisha seems to have a bit of a handle on this ...

mike


I'll double-check on a "virgin" Puppy Precise 5.4.3. I can't remember if I've
compiled a ROX-Filer from source at some point on this Puppy.

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Apr 2015, 16:57    Post subject:  

Like a virgin
Built for the very first time,
like a ver er erer gin,
feel your kernel tic next to mine.

One build per user perhaps...bit like the one kernel per user of modern linux.

lets do a clog dance to help the thought juices flow.

Mike
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Apr 2015, 17:09    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
I can't remember if I've compiled a ROX-Filer from source at some point on this Puppy.

So, what is "this Puppy?" Do you mean you are using a Precise 5.4.3 which has a busy social life?

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Apr 2015, 22:34    Post subject:  

Keisha wrote:
musher0 wrote:
I can't remember if I've compiled a ROX-Filer from source at some point on this Puppy.

So, what is "this Puppy?" Do you mean you are using a Precise 5.4.3 which has a busy social life?


Funny guy! Indeed, Puppy Precise 5.4.3 is quite the socialite!!! Cool Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Apr 2015, 22:49    Post subject:  

My rig:

Quote:
rox -v :
ROX-Filer 2.11
...[some blabla]...
Compiled with GTK version 2.24.8
Running with GTK version 2.24.10
-- features set at compile time --
Large File Support... Yes
Inotify support... Yes
Dnotify support... No
Binary compatibility... No (apsymbols.h not found)
Extended attribute support... Yes

uname -a :
Linux puppypcABCD 3.2.29 #1 SMP Thu Sep 13 20:33:02 GMT-8 2012
i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux


So, I'm using the "virgin" ROX-Filer that comes OOTB with PPrecise 5.4.3.

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 05:19    Post subject:  

Ok ..I will read through those patches and see if anything looks relevant... I won't blindly apply them.

I assume no one else here uses wmx hence just your report and the rest of the silence is golden.
No mysterious puppy/rox maintainer has emerged.... sling it in woof and whoever happens to pass by it seems.

It was all going so well Sad

First a word from our sponsor.... oh he ran off

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 05:51    Post subject: Rox and desktop files: how to display Comment  

mikeb wrote:
I assume no one else here uses wmx hence just your report and the rest of the silence is golden.

Other users of wmx might have read (and understood) the title of this thread. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Apr 2015, 06:24    Post subject:  

Well would be nice for some confirmation and further insight of the bug.
More clues the better really.

Also its up to the posters here to find fixes since its obviously not going to be getting general support.

Looked at the patches but they are for more column options, a send to menu focus change, change in options and a larger log.
Nothing seems relevent.

Mike
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