Puppy Linux Discussion Forum Forum Index Puppy Linux Discussion Forum
Puppy HOME page : puppylinux.com
"THE" alternative forum : puppylinux.info
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

The time now is Wed 01 Jul 2015, 19:36
All times are UTC - 4
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Puppy Projects
Logoff takes different times in different USB sticks
Moderators: Flash, JohnMurga
Post_new_topic   Reply_to_topic View_previous_topic :: View_next_topic
Page 1 of 2 Posts_count   Goto page: 1, 2 Next
Author Message
Alex Hamilton

Joined: 16 May 2015
Posts: 18

PostPosted: Fri 22 May 2015, 14:00    Post_subject:  Logoff takes different times in different USB sticks  

I am running Puppy on 2 usb sticks created from the same ISO file on Windows. I used Rufus to create bootable usb sticks. One of the usb sticks is 4GB and the other 8GB, but they are identical in every other way.

The larger USB stick (8GB) takes nearly 3 minutes to save to Slackosave and log off, whilst the other (4GB) manages to do it in just over a minute.

I am assuming that the longer log off time with the larger USB is caused by saving "empty space". Is my assumption correct and is there a way to speed up log off time?

Many thanks,
Alex
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
Sylvander

Joined: 15 Dec 2008
Posts: 3734
Location: West Lothian, Scotland, UK

PostPosted: Fri 22 May 2015, 15:17    Post_subject:  

I have my Puppies set up so they NEVER auto-save session changes.
I can choose to manually save changes during a session.
The time that takes depends on how extensive are the changes.
Normally less than 30-seconds.
If I DO want to make&save some change[s], I'd do that at the beginning of a session, before doing any other things, so that those other things are NOT saved.

When I go to shutdown or reboot, my Puppies are set up to ask [during that process] "save or not?", with the default configured as NOT.
When I hit <Enter> to choose "Not", it only takes about 3 seconds to shutdown or begin rebooting.
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
Alex Hamilton

Joined: 16 May 2015
Posts: 18

PostPosted: Fri 22 May 2015, 17:18    Post_subject:  

Thank you for that Sylvander, but that would mean that anything I added in a session, like emails, would be lost on log off. However, I will test your method and thank you again for suggesting it.

Best regards,
Alex
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
Sylvander

Joined: 15 Dec 2008
Posts: 3734
Location: West Lothian, Scotland, UK

PostPosted: Fri 22 May 2015, 20:18    Post_subject:  

I use Thunderbird [TB] for emails, and I moved the TB profile out of the pupsave file to a location [/mnt/home/Mail] on the "Home" partition [sda5].
[You could save your stuff anywhere you liked, so long as that location was acessible, and outside of the pupsave]
Hence, all changes to TB [e.g. emails, configurations, etc] are saved regardless, and the links within the pupsave file to the moved TB profile are in all pupsave backup copies.
Hence, if I delete the pupsave and restore a backup, all the up-to-date emails etc are still displayed.
All of my Puppies have the same changes made, and access the same profile, so I can access my emails from any/each/all of my Puppies.
I make independent backups of the contents of the "Home" partition, BUT...
I really aught to make more frequent backups of the TB profile.
So far nothing has ever gone wrong, so I've never lost any emails etc.
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
bigpup


Joined: 11 Oct 2009
Posts: 6270
Location: Charleston S.C. USA

PostPosted: Sat 23 May 2015, 01:39    Post_subject:  

Quote:
but they are identical in every other way.

Same brand?
Same format?
What format?
USB 2 or 3?
Using the same computer USB port?
Is the port a USB 2 or 3?

Doing the exact same tasks while booted with them?

What version of Slacko?

_________________
I have found, in trying to help people, that the things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected Shocked
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
Alex Hamilton

Joined: 16 May 2015
Posts: 18

PostPosted: Sat 23 May 2015, 07:34    Post_subject:  

Sylvander wrote:
I use Thunderbird [TB] for emails, and I moved the TB profile out of the pupsave file to a location [/mnt/home/Mail] on the "Home" partition [sda5].


I am not skilled enough to do that. I found TB profile with <CTRL-H> whilst in /home and I moved it outside puppysave, but then TB would not load. I need to change the path to the new location so that TB can find it and I don't know how to do that.

Can you help?

Thanks
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
Alex Hamilton

Joined: 16 May 2015
Posts: 18

PostPosted: Sat 23 May 2015, 07:43    Post_subject:  

bigpup wrote:
Quote:
but they are identical in every other way.

Same brand?
Same format?
What format?
USB 2 or 3?
Using the same computer USB port?
Is the port a USB 2 or 3?

Doing the exact same tasks while booted with them?

What version of Slacko?

I am not sure about the brand, Bigpup, because they are both "proprietary" and I don't know where the retailer got them. They are run on the same computer but not from the same usb port. All my ports are USB2 and both USB sticks are vfat.

I am running Slacko 5.7.0.

Even just loging on and off without performing any tasks the larger USB (8GB) takes much longer to save and log off.
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
mikeb


Joined: 23 Nov 2006
Posts: 10884

PostPosted: Sat 23 May 2015, 08:41    Post_subject:  

Thunderbird default on IMAP is now to download all mail ...daft really but might ACCOUNT FOR LARGE AMOUNS OF SAVES NEEDED.

AHH RAN OUT OF TIME LOL
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
L18L

Joined: 19 Jun 2010
Posts: 2943
Location: www.eussenheim.de/

PostPosted: Sat 23 May 2015, 09:20    Post_subject:  

Alex Hamilton wrote:
they are both "proprietary" and I don't know where the retailer got them.

Enter the following command unto a Terminal
Code:
lsusb

then press the ENTER key.
and copy the output into your next post.
That might help or might not help.

Here is mine:
Code:
# lsusb
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 148f:3070 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter
Bus 003 Device 005: ID 0781:5580 SanDisk Corp. SDCZ80 Flash Drive
Bus 003 Device 006: ID 0781:5406 SanDisk Corp. Cruzer Micro U3
Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0a81:0205 Chesen Electronics Corp. PS/2 Keyboard+Mouse Adapter
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB-2.0 4-Port HUB
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
#
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
Sylvander

Joined: 15 Dec 2008
Posts: 3734
Location: West Lothian, Scotland, UK

PostPosted: Sat 23 May 2015, 11:08    Post_subject:  

Alex Hamilton wrote:
Can you help?

Yes.
Follow the instructions in this post., and also read the posts after this, leading to my post reporting success.
The key item is step-2, to edit your TB profiles.ini file, so as to specify the new/moved location of the xxxxxx.default folder.
Once specified in profiles.ini, this folder is the only one that TB will use.
Any other similar folders will be ignored.
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
Alex Hamilton

Joined: 16 May 2015
Posts: 18

PostPosted: Sat 23 May 2015, 16:25    Post_subject:  

Sylvander wrote:
Alex Hamilton wrote:
Can you help?

Yes.
Follow the instructions in this post., and also read the posts after this,


Wow! That worked. I needed to keep emails on the USB stick, because the main purpose of running Puppy is to have a completely transportable OS that I could plug in and use on any computer.

So I made a directory /mnt/home/TMail and copied the profile there and changed profies.ini as you showed. Thunderbird works like before.

Thank you again for this.

Alex
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
Alex Hamilton

Joined: 16 May 2015
Posts: 18

PostPosted: Sat 23 May 2015, 16:28    Post_subject:  

L18L wrote:
Alex Hamilton wrote:
they are both "proprietary" and I don't know where the retailer got them.

Enter the following command unto a Terminal
Code:
lsusb

then press the ENTER key.
and copy the output into your next post.
That might help or might not help.


Thank you. I got the list, but no means of copying it anywhere that I could see. How do I attach the list to a reply here?

Thanks,

Alex
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
mikeb


Joined: 23 Nov 2006
Posts: 10884

PostPosted: Sat 23 May 2015, 16:33    Post_subject:  

Just for a note..imap would mean th e profile would remain a few hundred k so simply having the same profile without sharing keeps space usage to a minimum since the server becomes your common source... assuming the non downloaded IMAP config is used...indeed its designed with this in mind.

mike
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
Alex Hamilton

Joined: 16 May 2015
Posts: 18

PostPosted: Sat 23 May 2015, 16:48    Post_subject:  

mikeb wrote:
Just for a note..imap would mean th e profile would remain a few hundred k so simply having the same profile without sharing keeps space usage to a minimum since the server becomes your common source... assuming the non downloaded IMAP config is used...indeed its designed with this in mind.

mike


Mike, Thank you for that, but I am not sure that I can do anything about it, because my ISP is Pop3. Is there a way that I can change to IMAP collection of emails without causing havoc on my system?

Alex
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
bigpup


Joined: 11 Oct 2009
Posts: 6270
Location: Charleston S.C. USA

PostPosted: Sat 23 May 2015, 23:02    Post_subject:  

In the console terminal that comes with Puppy.

Copy- left click hold and highlight

Paste- middle button click

Also works to copy from terminal and paste to other programs.

Also if you use copy method that comes with other programs you can paste in terminal by middle mouse click.

If you do not have a middle mouse button.

Clicking the left and right buttons, at the same time, will have same effect as middle mouse button.

shift+insert will also work to paste.

Quote:
How do I attach the list to a reply here?

Copy the list and paste it in the post reply.

_________________
I have found, in trying to help people, that the things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected Shocked
Back to top
View user's profile Send_private_message 
Display_posts:   Sort by:   
Page 1 of 2 Posts_count   Goto page: 1, 2 Next
Post_new_topic   Reply_to_topic View_previous_topic :: View_next_topic
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Puppy Projects
Jump to:  

Rules_post_cannot
Rules_reply_cannot
Rules_edit_cannot
Rules_delete_cannot
Rules_vote_cannot
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
[ Time: 0.0900s ][ Queries: 11 (0.0075s) ][ GZIP on ]