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musher0

Joined: 04 Jan 2009
Posts: 15041
Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada

PostPosted: Wed 27 Nov 2019, 11:58    Post subject:  

Hi Grogg.

Sorry for your troubles.

I know you are describing a pupsave problem, and I created all these ready-made
pupsave files, but the person you really shoufd be asking a solution to this is
666philb, the author of BionicPup64 8.0, on the BionicPup64 8.0 thread at
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1765322642&t=114311.

Further, I am out of a 64-bit PC at the moment, so I cannot try to replicate
bugs on a BionicPup64.

What is puzzling me, is your mentions "sda" and "sdc". Normally those would be
sdaN and sdcN, such as sda1, sdc1 -- unless you are an avid UDF fan/user.

Off the top, I'd say it's a problem with the boot order in your BIOS it. My boot order
in my BIOS is
-- bootable USB drive or Flash drive. If not found, goes to look for:
-- bootable CD/DVD. If not found, goes to look for:
-- bootable HD.

Notice the qualifier "bootable": have you made your USB drive bootable?
It's just a label you specify at the formatting stage, through GParted or similar, but
it's important if you want to boot from it. Otherwise, the BIOS will skip it at boot
time as a mere data drive.

Sorry for the partial help only, but I do hope it is still somewhat useful.
In any case, please keep us informed of the outcome?

BFN.

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Grogg

Joined: 27 Nov 2019
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Nov 2019, 14:05    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
Hi Grogg.

Sorry for your troubles.

I know you are describing a pupsave problem, and I created all these ready-made
pupsave files, but the person you really shoufd be asking a solution to this is
666philb, the author of BionicPup64 8.0, on the BionicPup64 8.0 thread at
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1765322642&t=114311.

What is puzzling me, is your mentions "sda" and "sdc". Normally those would be
sdaN and sdcN, such as sda1, sdc1 -- unless you are an avid UDF fan/user.

Off the top, I'd say it's a problem with the boot order in your BIOS it. My boot order
in my BIOS is
-- bootable USB drive or Flash drive. If not found, goes to look for:
-- bootable CD/DVD. If not found, goes to look for:
-- bootable HD.

Notice the qualifier "bootable": have you made your USB drive bootable?
It's just a label you specify at the formatting stage, through GParted or similar, but
it's important if you want to boot from it. Otherwise, the BIOS will skip it at boot
time as a mere data drive.

Sorry for the partial help only, but I do hope it is still somewhat useful.
In any case, please keep us informed of the outcome?

BFN.


Hi Musher,

No need to be sorry, any help is better than no help.

I remembered incorrectly about the options of what drives I could save to, sorry about that...I'm given the options of sda1-4 and sdb1-3 but *no* sdc* anything at all.

As for if the flashdrive is bootable, I imagine it is if all I have to do is go into the BIOS during bootup (by tapping the 'delete' key a bunch) and then choosing what I want to boot from a choice of my hdd, sdd or bdrom or cdrom or flashdrive.

I *can* set it so that I could make the flashdrive the first thing the BIOS sees and boot straight into it without having to go into the BIOS to choose it, but would that make a difference? I'll try it anyway, nothing to lose.

I'll go to that link and see if anyone there has any more ideas also. Thanks for the help and I'll try to remember to get back here and post if anything gets 'fixed'. It's always good that *everyone* gets to see 'fixes', because it may be the answer someone else is looking for too.
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rcrsn51


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Posts: 13129
Location: Stratford, Ontario

PostPosted: Wed 27 Nov 2019, 14:26    Post subject:  

You put Puppy on the flash drive with "dd". That makes the rest of the drive unavailable, unless you fix it somehow.
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Grogg

Joined: 27 Nov 2019
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Wed 27 Nov 2019, 14:36    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
You put Puppy on the flash drive with "dd". That makes the rest of the drive unavailable, unless you fix it somehow.


Yeah, that was going to be another question in a separate thread, heh. I couldn't find any other way to put it on the flashdrive...the site even says to use dd, so I just don't know what else to do about it.

As for the flashdrive not picking up on the pupsave...going into the BIOS and setting the flashdrive to be the first drive to boot, sdb next and then sda, then bdrom and then cdrom fixed the problem. When it booted it seemed to find my pupsave and everything is there as I left it from last session.

Thanks, Musher!!

Now, back to figuring out how to use the whole flashdrive instead of just 7GB of it!
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musher0

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Nov 2019, 17:30    Post subject:  

Hi Grogg.

Glad I could be of help! (At least for some of it.)

About:
Quote:
Now, back to figuring out how to use the whole flashdrive instead of just 7GB of it!

What I'd do is use GParted from another Pup or from a CD/DVD of this one
(because altering the branch you're sitting on may be tricky!)
-- locate the flashdrive (its sdXn name; if unsure type probepart and you'll see a list
of partitions
-- open a console and type gparted_shell (or you may start it from the menu)
-- tick the proper flashdrive and press OK.
(you should be in now; pls see capture)
-- right-click on the 2nd partition if there is one and click delete.
-- right-click on the 1st partition and click resize/move
You may leave as is, but it's handy to have extra room, e.g. to put a pupsave file alongside the Pup! Wink
-- depending on your need, increase the size.
Don't touch the "free space preceding" though, flash drives have firmware there usually.
The easiest and most precise way is to insert a number in the "new size" box, but you
may use the mouse to drag the box to the right to the desired size.

Please note the actions are not applied immediately. They will only be applied when you
click on menu item Edit->Apply All Operations.

Now you should have a grey box to the right of your modified partition. Right-click on it.
The sub-menu will show only a "new" item. Click on that.
A box will pop up with some default settings : primary partition, ext4, automatic size.
The size should be ok. Maybe change ext4 to ext2 or f2fs; those file systems will be
kinder to the flashdrive.
Click OK.

Now click on menu item Edit->Apply All Operations.
It'll take about a minute for the operations to be done.

When finished, get out of gparted, remove your CD or DVD, and reboot as you do normally.

That's it.

Best of luck!
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Grogg

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Nov 2019, 00:17    Post subject:  

Wow! Thanks for all that. I think I already screwed up both flashdrives though by doing an 'install' from inside Puppy itself and tried to just copy/move the pupsave from my sda4 to my sdc1. It didn't work, it goes through showing a slough of things being 'coppied/moved', but when it's done all kinds of 'errors' are in it that it messes up the pupsave.

It's okay though, as I stated in the other thread, both my flashdrives are now going to use the whole drive, so no more wasted space, heh.

Thanks again for helping though even though I missed seeing this too late.
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