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bigpup


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Jun 2015, 20:39    Post subject:  Unetbootin Linux version
Subject description: UNetbootin can create a bootable Live USB drive, or make a "frugal install" on your hard drive
 

UNetbootin can create a bootable Live USB drive, or it can make a "frugal install" on your local hard disk.
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

To use a Puppy iso file.
Follow the directions for using an iso file you have already downloaded.
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/#other

Here is a pet that watchdog made.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=851176#851176

You do not really install Unetbootin into Puppy.

Download the Linux version of Unetbootin.

It is an exec file, but it needs to be given the exec permission.

In the file manager.
Right click on the Unetbootin file and select properties.
Give it exec permissions.

Now left click on the Unetbootin file to run it.

May need to install a version of mtools you can get from the Puppy Package Manager.

I just did not really see a need to make a pet, seeing how it is already an exec file and only a single file.
It can be moved to the desktop if you want to run it from there.


Note:
If Unetbootin is not finding your USB drive.

Sometimes you have to force the issue with Unetbootin.

Start Unetbootin from the console by using this command.
Code:
unetbootin installtype=USB targetdrive=/dev/sdb1

You tell it the target USB drive you want it to use.

My USB flash drive is sdb1

Just make the targetdrive=/dev/ (whatever your USB drive is identified as)


Puppy Tweaks for installing a Puppy iso:

Unetbootin does a basic iso image burn install to a USB flash drive.
Basically it is the same as a live CD image burn install.
It does not know about the tweaks, that the Puppy Universal Installer does, to identify the install as a USB flash drive install.
These tweaks tell the boot process that Puppy is on a USB flash drive and to limit the writes to the save file or folder.

However you can manually tweak the syslinux.cfg file on the USB flash drive.

Change:

Code:
 append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=cd


To:

Code:
append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Jun 2015, 20:46    Post subject:  

Why would you want to use this instead of the built in Puppy Universal Installer?
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PostPosted: Tue 16 Jun 2015, 21:01    Post subject:  

Just an optional program.

Linux is about options.

Someone asked how to run Unetbootin in Puppy.

Using the Puppy Universal Installer is the one of choice if running Puppy.
It has more options.

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Jun 2015, 01:43    Post subject:  

unetbootin-608-w5.pet:

https://copy.com/c7BgIkl8erzWPwCU

It contains mtools and p7zip all in one. It seems to work in a live of slacko 5.7, precise 5.7.1, tahr 6.02 (and obviously wary). It has not a menu entry: open a console and type:

Code:
unetbootin installtype=USB targetdrive=/dev/sdxy


where sdxy is the usb stick where you want to install to an iso.
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Jun 2015, 15:37    Post subject:  

Thanks for the pet watchdog!!
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Aug 2015, 13:48    Post subject:  

dancytron wrote:
Why would you want to use this instead of the built in Puppy Universal Installer?


Don't forget, UNetbootin is not really an installer, as such. It'll install an iso file to a USB stick, which is what it was designed to do. It was not designed to install Puppy, or any other distro, to a drive in the way that the Universal installer will. That will install Puppy to USB as a 'frugal'; UNetbootin can't do that.

Where it does come into its own is in allowing anyone who owns a modern netbook (or similar), who doesn't have a CD/DVD drive, to try a 'live' distro out.....and to then install it if you want to. The same applies to the other USB installers out there; Pendrive Linux, isobooter, Window's Rufus, Multi-Boot, etc. They're very good at what they're designed to do. It's a God-send to anyone who finds themselves in such a situation.

Don't forget, Puppy is one of only a handful of distros actually designed to run from a USB as standard. It's one of Puppy's strengths..! Yes, you can install any Linux distro to a USB drive if you want to.....but where most of them fall short is the constant reading/writing to & from the stick; because as far as the OS is concerned, it's been installed to a hard drive in the normal way. Wears out the stick in record time.

That's where Puppy's unique file-system, and method of operation, comes into its own.


Regards,

Mike. Wink

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Aug 2015, 19:23    Post subject:  

Quote:
Don't forget, UNetbootin is not really an installer, as such. It'll install an iso file to a USB stick, which is what it was designed to do. It was not designed to install Puppy, or any other distro, to a drive in the way that the Universal installer will. That will install Puppy to USB as a 'frugal'; UNetbootin can't do that.


Damn. Nobody told me that back when I was a tester for MacPup. So I guess the save files on usb were just smoke and mirrors?

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Aug 2015, 00:09    Post subject:  

Quote:
So I guess the save files on usb were just smoke and mirrors?

No, they still should have been used by Puppy.

Unetbootin does a basic iso image burn install to a USB flash drive.
Basically it is the same as a live CD image burn install.
It does not know about the tweaks, that the Puppy Universal Installer does, to identify the install as a USB flash drive install.
These tweaks tell the boot process that Puppy is on a USB flash drive and to limit the writes to the save file or folder.

However you can manually tweak the syslinux.cfg file on the USB flash drive.

Change:
Code:
 append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=cd

To:
Code:
append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Aug 2015, 09:36    Post subject:  

Just for info BigPup.

You can install grub4dos on unetbootin after a boot up using syslinux bootloader.
Make a save file.

Grub4dos gives you choice of live or save file boot.
Then there is the advanced menu one can tweak even more.
You ae running on fat32 . Save file is ext2.

I did not sweat

Quote:
limit the writes to the save file or folder.


I am just showing unetbootin can be a frugal kind of install. Maybe not correct in some members eyes. But we fly loosey goosey on the Mexican Border.

Like when building redneck house boats

or toilets

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