mtPaint 3.19 public beta release
mtPaint 3.19 public beta release
mtPaint 3.19 uploaded to Sourceforge today:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfile ... _id=555106
Among its new features are a much more memory-efficient undo engine, a new FreeType-based text pasting facility, support for running external programs (can be used, e.g., for printing images), two new image quantizers, etc.
There were many changes to low-level parts of mtPaint, some of them fairly recent, so I'll be grateful to anyone who'll help beta-test this new version before it becomes the final 3.20 release.
-= With best regards, Dmitry Groshev, maintainer of mtPaint =-
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfile ... _id=555106
Among its new features are a much more memory-efficient undo engine, a new FreeType-based text pasting facility, support for running external programs (can be used, e.g., for printing images), two new image quantizers, etc.
There were many changes to low-level parts of mtPaint, some of them fairly recent, so I'll be grateful to anyone who'll help beta-test this new version before it becomes the final 3.20 release.
-= With best regards, Dmitry Groshev, maintainer of mtPaint =-
And here is a package containing locales for non-english languages. Just extract to /.
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Thanks Dmitry, thanks Muggins.
this at sourceforge:
The configurable actions under file, is that new? - that could be set up for Puppy . . .
View Window (I knew there was a double view somewhere - had to hunt) might be better named 2 view or double view
Channels and Layers I have no understanding of - and I belong to that unreasonable band of users who will never ever read a manual no matter how good (in fact it is not in the Puppy version)
- maybe a link to an online version for those so inclined . . .
Update Muggins has in the following post made the manuals available - many thanks
I am glad to see some new Gaussian filters - not sure what they are yet but intuitive enough to experiment
So glad to see Mtpaint improve and develop. Thanks again.
this at sourceforge:
Where are they?Before downloading, you may want to read the release notes.
The configurable actions under file, is that new? - that could be set up for Puppy . . .
View Window (I knew there was a double view somewhere - had to hunt) might be better named 2 view or double view
Channels and Layers I have no understanding of - and I belong to that unreasonable band of users who will never ever read a manual no matter how good (in fact it is not in the Puppy version)
- maybe a link to an online version for those so inclined . . .
Update Muggins has in the following post made the manuals available - many thanks
I am glad to see some new Gaussian filters - not sure what they are yet but intuitive enough to experiment
So glad to see Mtpaint improve and develop. Thanks again.
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I forgot all about the existing mtpaint! When i installed this pet & ran it, version 3.19 was displayed. When I uninstalled it I was surprised that it still ran, this time v3.11, until I remembered that v3.11 was in /usr/local/bin, whereas this current one installs in /usr/bin.
There's no conflict though, try out v3.19, and if no major dramas, you can just delete /usr/local/bin/mtpaint, as it's just the one file.
There's no conflict though, try out v3.19, and if no major dramas, you can just delete /usr/local/bin/mtpaint, as it's just the one file.
Ask Sourceforge, not me. Although most projects never post release notes, Sourceforge interface still shows the useless links.Lobster wrote:this at sourceforge:
"Before downloading, you may want to read the release notes."
Where are they?
Yes - actually, the feature was designed in after discussion on this same forum, about why mtPaint doesn't have printing support. The rationale for not having that inside mtPaint still holds true, but now it is easy to offload printing, or any other task for that matter, to an external program of choice or to a custom-made script.The configurable actions under file, is that new? - that could be set up for Puppy . . .
Documentation is meant to be read. Some of advanced features like utility channels or dithering simply cannot be self-explaining - at least not without a stupid wizard-like interface. And with time, number of such features will only grow - advanced image processing is *hard*, and can only be dumbed down so much before it ceases to be advanced.Channels and Layers I have no understanding of - and I belong to that unreasonable band of users who will never ever read a manual no matter how good (in fact it is not in the Puppy version)
http://mtpaint.sourceforge.net/handbook ... ap_00.html- maybe a link to an online version for those so inclined . . .
It sits there since mtPaint 2.90; the version currently online is for mtPaint 3.10 because mtPaint 3.20 is still in beta.
A couple of quick suggestions, wjaguar, after a short "play" with the beta product:wjaguar wrote:Some of advanced features like utility channels or dithering simply cannot be self-explaining - at least not without a stupid wizard-like interface. A
1. If you have channels and layers, it would make sense to have a more accessible facility to easily anchor a new layer or selection into the current image. I only found the "fix" layer option with great difficulty.
3. Since mtPaint supports transparency, can we PLEASE have an erasor tool to "delete" a selection to the transparent or background layer? Cut doesn't just doesn't "cut it" as an alternative, IMHO.
That said, I realise that mtPaint is a light application, not intended to compete with GIMP or others of that ilk. Thank you for your great work on an application that is only 199kb to download in dotpet format. Well done!
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The layers subsystem was there since before my involvement with mtPaint - but still, I feel that layer placement by dragging them in the view window is kind of obvious anyway. And even if it weren't, docs are meant to be read.WhoDo wrote:1. If you have channels and layers, it would make sense to have a more accessible facility to easily anchor a new layer or selection into the current image. I only found the "fix" layer option with great difficulty.
But now that I think of it, it does make sense to change anchor coordinate display in the layers window to a pair of spinbuttons - it'll be easier to precisely move layers that way.
An erasing brush was planned for 3.20 - but real life intruded with a vengeance. Now planned for 3.30.3. Since mtPaint supports transparency, can we PLEASE have an erasor tool to "delete" a selection to the transparent or background layer? Cut doesn't just doesn't "cut it" as an alternative, IMHO.
As for making selections transparent, just remember that mtPaint is neither GIMP nor Photoshop; we don't dumb down our program, you can draw in alpha channel the same as you do in image channel. Switch to editing alpha, and fill your selection with zero alpha value - all done. You don't even need a selection - you can just draw with zero (or nonzero) alpha using any drawing tool, or use floodfill with "By image channel" option enabled to simulate "Magic wand" tool.
Menu -> Graphics -> mtPaint snapshot screen capture followed by Image -> Crop and, if necessary, Image -> Scale Canvas, with the "New" width forced to 600, takes less time to do than it does to describe. I use Crop and Scale Canvas all the time to edit an image of an entire desktop that someone posts when all they really want to show is an application's GUI window.aarf wrote:Want a one button click for a screenshot saved into a directory and the resultant image should be 599 pixels wide so that it can be uploaded to this forum.
This might help: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61361aarf wrote:Want a one button click for a screenshot saved into a directory and the resultant image should be 599 pixels wide so that it can be uploaded to this forum.
ok will take a look. perfecto.GustavoYz wrote:This might help: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61361aarf wrote:Want a one button click for a screenshot saved into a directory and the resultant image should be 599 pixels wide so that it can be uploaded to this forum.