Phoenix CE - "Start" Menu Design and Layout

[Pizzasgood]

Battery support/conky How much extra space will conky take up. If its just a few k then that would be fine. how much resource would the "modprobe battery" take up?

The package I used in pcPuppyOS is 368K uncompressed.

[ecomoney]

Hi Richard

Sorry for my absence for a while, my excuses are as follows...house move, enforced "work experience", broken down car and lack of internet access. I am awaiting confirmation from my "boss" today to allow me to work half days so i can devote more time to my charity clients and hopefully even set up a market stall/car-boot selling puppy pc's!

Im not sure about the three different version of the menu. The version that you used in your tutorial (with the internet favourites off the menu) looks very good and should more than suffice. The programs in phoneix so far are simply the ones included in the standard 2.14r , but with an updated web browser (skipstone instead of dillo) and a new pdf reader instead of xpdf (cant remember the name, but has been added to the current menu by ttuxxxx who compiled the latest build).

The cybercafe clients included all age ranges. I used to teach the older IT crowd in an adult education job on M$, and found that all the various virus warning/malware attacks etc really put off these types of users as they were generally a lot more nervous/cautious than most of the other age ranges. Teaching on puppy was a lot easier and inspired a lot more confidence in the students. All the best with it.

[richard.a]

Follow-up to my previous post

Anyone got any ideas how to fix the two probs I found in 2.14r please?

1. uneditable menu - I can't find a file anywhere I have looked that will allow me to do this.

2.Ez-Pup installation results in loss of all of menu except bottom 2 lines - Anyone discovered a work-around?



Grrrrrr

Richard

PS Thanks ecomoney for your reply, no problemo

[ttuuxxx]

Follow-up to my previous post

Anyone got any ideas how to fix the two probs I found in 2.14r please?

2.Ez-Pup installation results in loss of all of menu except bottom 2 lines - Anyone discovered a work-around?

UPDATED X2 with newer verson
Hi richard I'm finished making my own lightweight icewm, if you want you could try it out and see if it works.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... ch&id=8438
you can view info on it here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=26861
its only 710kb

ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

The Icewm Lite Version is finished you can get it here and give it a try.
I'm pretty sure it will work fine:)

Q: How to start it for the first time
A:exit to prompt type
startx icewm (Enter)

ttuuxxx

[richard.a]

Thank you, thuuxxx

I have all three of your downloads now, and hope to have a look at applying the final one initially to 2.14r1.01/Phoenix, and then see if it will install to 2.10pro2 as well, later, as an after-thought. I'll do some caps and if you are going to open a thread on it, would be happy to link my caps to the thread. Likely I'll do a brief descriptive page also.

The Icewm Lite Version is finished you can get it here and give it a try. I'm pretty sure it will work fine:)

I posted my cry for help to the 2.14r1.01 thread as well, and Dougal made a suggestion about where I should be editing the XDG menus. So we may be out of the wood there.

Richard

[ttuuxxx]

The lite icewm manager now has mouse tracking. I'm working on a better theme now.
ttuuxxx

[rarsa]

Just my 2-cents: I personally find anything more than a two tier menu to be a PITA. It's about the only thing I dislike about v1.09CE.

I personally find anything more than 10 entries per menu a PITA. I get lost.

That's the beauty of XDG you can have either a flat or a categorized menu. I was going to provide alternative structures including a flat structure but something happened that threw me off track. shame on me.

[richard.a]

The lite icewm manager now has mouse tracking. I'm working on a better theme now.
ttuuxxx

I like it

Thanks ttuuxxx for doing that, I have it working on two machines (one an old one using the irqpoll trick in the boot statement) on both 2.16 and 2.14 (regular, not revisited).

For readers of this thread, there is an explanation why it doesn't currently work in the 2.14 "Revisited" in that project's thread.

I also tried my command button bars (which naturally work as the change in WM isn't going to affect them). And added the shutdown 3-button dialogue from them into the menu on the 2.14 too, so the menu is modifiable.

Give me a couple of days and I'll have some captures here, and with a bit of luck the modified version to go into 2.14R will be available by then too.

Just a couple of personal thoughts... I'm not keen on the graphic you've used in the menu button in the default theme, probably would be fine on one that didn't have a horizontal line across the whole bar.

It might be good to have the trayicons that I think MU did available, next to Blinky. I have no idea how you would put them there lol

I would also like to see a single large puppy-type pawprint on a dark background too, similar to one of the themes in 215ce or EZ-pup. And someone is bound to ask "How do you add more themes?"

A fantastic job ttuuxxx, and I think we have a goer here.