Muppy 008.2 (Feb 01, 2008) outdated

[papos]

Pour ceux qui ont envis de l'essayer.
meci pour le mirroir
Videopup-0082-FR.iso 235 megas
http://files.filefront.com/Videopup+008 ... einfo.html Videopup-0082-FRiso
md5: 890674336845d9ca90511e990d520fe0 Videopup-008.2-FR.iso

firefox, mplayer ,gxine, qdvdauthor-1.0.104, avidemux-2.4, Kino-1.2, rezound, pbackup, pburn-1.0 etc

addons_OO_082.sfs 236 megas
http://files.filefront.com/addons+OO+08 ... einfo.html
md5: b50d231168e1f1f60d802f917bc5e40a addons_OO_082.sfs

skype_static-2.0.0.43, openofficefr-2.31, java, celtx etc

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[papos]

error in the subject description of the precedent message, it 's not with puppy3.02 but with 3.01
perhaps I like that muppybuild integrate all the future off 3.02 but now he has soon a lot

[Lobster]

Lobster,
no nothing serious happened, they could control the fire before other apartments were affected.

glad to hear it.
Hope your sleeping improves. I find hypno CD's that you play and put you to sleep are very good . . .
Looking forward to the new Muppys

[MU]

MU,
What the differences between Embryo, Server, Mini & Standard version?
Thanks.

Embryo:
A kind of Barebones-system.
Has only Xvesa (no Xorg), and JWM+ XfileExplorer + Adie Texteditor.
There will be an additional .sfs with Gtk, so that you can use Puppys Wizards to configure it.
It is intended not as a "working" system, but as a base to build a optimized custom Mini-version.

Server is Embryo + Gtk, Minisys, Samba, Abiword, Gnumeric.
This we will use for the companies we have as customers, that use Minisys to manage everything.
Abiword and Gnumeric are not used as Desktop-applications, but as remote-controlled document converters.

Mini is less than 200 MB, good for computers with 256 RAM.
It can be extended by additional .sfs addons like office.sfs (OpenOffice + Acrobat Reader), kde.sfs, addons.sfs (Minisys, wine, samba, themes, firefox, Java etc.).

Standard is the most easy to use, it contains everything except KDE.
It needs a lot of Ram (Maybe 700 MB or more).
I see Standard as a "Teaser" for beginners, not as an optimal system, I prefer the Mini instead because of better resource-handling and flexibility.

Mark

[nic2109]

Hello; I have found issues with a couple of the desklets supplied out of the box.

Firstly; the calendar desklet has some very peculiar ideas. For example today (Thursday March 27th) is highlighted as Easter Sunday, with Tuesday being Good Friday!

As it has the right dates for the days of the week, I guess that it's the way holidays are setup that is incorrect.

Secondly; I cannot find out how to make the weather report a suitable location. The suggested method is suitable for US locations as per weather.com, but the format doesn't seem to apply to other parts of the world. Is it possible to set up a UK location (Post Code would be easy)?

[fzsolt]

Just go to www.weather.com and set your home town (or the nearest place recognized by weather.com) using the LocalWeather search field near the top of the screen. Then look at the address displayed by your browser. It should look like something like this:

http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/b ... earch_city

Your city code is between local/ and the question mark. In the example above it is UKXX0085 for London. Give this to the weather desklet. It worked for my hometown (Debrecen, Hungary).

[nic2109]

Just go to www.weather.com and set your home town (or the nearest place recognized by weather.com) using the LocalWeather search field near the top of the screen. Then look at the address displayed by your browser. It should look like something like this:

http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/b ... earch_city

Your city code is between local/ and the question mark. In the example above it is UKXX0085 for London. Give this to the weather desklet. It worked for my hometown (Debrecen, Hungary).

Thanks, I'll give that a try.

Later Addition

That worked fine thanks. Though I observe that the data it presents for my location are slightly different from those on weather.com online! And, as if that wasn't enough; I downloaded the Firefox add-in which also takes a feed from weather.com and that's different again!

Ho hum; it does make you wonder about all this "information" we are bombarded with day and night: just how reliable is it in reality?

[accessdenied]

MU,
Excellent breakdown on the different versions of Muppy... Great info..
Although what do you consider Muppy 8.2? Is this the standard version?
Where can I download the English ver of 'Mini'? I'd like to give it a go on a custom Muppy?
Lastly, is it possible to edit 'IceRock' in Muppy 8.2 to automatically minimize after loading so to keep the taskbar clean? I'd like to know which config file I need to edit..
Cheers mate..

[MU]

Embryo and Server will only be available as special flavours of Muppy 008.3.
The new Muppy 008.3 will be available in approx. 1 week.
The most recommended version to use will be Muppy 008.3 Mini+addons.

The download for the current english Muppy 008.2 Mini is:
Mini-Muppy-008.2-EN.iso (Download-links see first message).

We wanted to release 008.3 this weekend, but found ways to optimize it for computers with only 256 MB of Ram.
Finishing this will take some more days.

I have no idea how to minimize icedock.
To prevent it to start, you could remove it from /root/.icewm/startup.

To set it up (colours, used modules), use "Muppy-Icedock" in the "Desktop"-Menu.
To tweak some internal settings, edit: /root/.icedockrc.

Maybe to skip that it is visible in the taskbar:
edit: /root/.icewm/winoptions
Add this line:
IceDock.ignoreTaskBar: 1

After restarting icewm, it is removed from the taskbar, if you move the mouse over it.
I will try to write a script, that raises/lowers it after start, maybe that has the same effect as moving the mouse over it.

Mark

[accessdenied]

I made a incorrect statement...
Actually, what I wanted to ask was is it possible to have icedock as a 'tray icon' after loading?
The same steps/procedure as if I were to right click icedock on the taskbar and select 'tray icon'.
I apologize on the confusion...

[MU]

I made a incorrect statement...
Actually, what I wanted to ask was is it possible to have icedock as a 'tray icon' after loading?
The same steps/procedure as if I were to right click icedock on the taskbar and select 'tray icon'.
I apologize on the confusion...

Ah I see.
No, I have no idea how this could be done.
In theory... hm... GtkBasic supports Trayicons, so I could write one, that hides/unhides the icedock.

At moment I'm too busy, but I will see if I can add that somehow as a plugin to the new panel in 008.3.
Then it would need no additional resources, as the Panel now is integral part of Muppy.
But I cannot promise it yet.
Mark

[MU]

I love GuestToos old postings:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=2919

So add this to /root/.icewm/winoptions:

Code: Select all

IceDock.allWorkspaces: 1
IceDock.tray: Exclusive
IceDock.layer: OnTop
IceDock.icon: /root/icedock.png

The last line must point to a valid picture-file, or remove it.

This does not solve, that there is a blinking taskbar-entry at startup.
But it has a trayicon now.

To fix the taskbar-issue, add these lines in the end of:
/usr/local/Muppy-icedock/Muppy-icedock

Code: Select all

shell("sleep 2")
a=GetWinIDbyName("icedock")
xwin_activate("0x" & a)

//-- uncomment this line to minimize icedock at startup!
//xwin_iconify("0x" & a)

If you can confirm, that it works, I'll add these changes to 008.3

Mark

[accessdenied]

I will do the config/test and post back the results...
Good Stuff MU, really Good Stuff!!!

cheers.

[accessdenied]

MU, I can confirm you are on-target with this one....
It's exactly as I pictured and works as requested.
The taskbar is now clean after loading.
However, I did changed the entry line 'IceDock.layer: OnTop' to 'IceDock.layer: Normal' in the /root/.icewm/winoptions file as being "OnTop" of every window is absolutely annoying.
Although, I recall icedock did an automatic pop-up when the mouse is moved to right side edge of the screen and disappears again when the mouse was removed but seems to not do that anymore. Hence the line entry change.

Hope this all make sense as I'm falling asleep writing this.. will pick this up later today...

[jonyo]

Just tried to get qt-3.3.8 from the petget mgr & when I selected add & ok, next message was ~'did I want to uninstall it'. Started to wonder there..for a bit. Then tried psi - installed fine & showed up in the right pane of the petget mgr.

Otherwise working fine on acer travelmate 2420 lap with the ipw2200 native driver & Lin'N'WinNewB setup with xp. Working good that way on another box along with vista.

Also added a fresh Seamonkey & Opera.

08.2 standard

[MU]

here is a picture you can use for the Icedock-trayicon,I use it in Muppy 0083.
Mark

[besonen]

is there a listing of the complete contents of these sfs files:

- addons-EN_082.sfs
- Acroread8-EN_082.sfs
- KDE358_082.sfs


are there any other 008.2 compatible sfs files?
are there any other locations for any 008.2 related files?


what is the "KDE358-update.pet" file for? and if i need it, how do i use it?


is the "Videopup-008.2-FR.iso" file a version of muppy with video editing apps?

does "addons_OO_082.sfs" contain openoffice and is it compatible with the english version of muppy 008.2?



thanks for answering all of my questions,
david

[accessdenied]

MU, thanks for th icedock png icon. Actually, I used a another but will use yours as I like the moving fishes..

Also, I recently discovered what was happening to the icedock pop-up from what I though was an issue...

If the current viewing window is maximize, the icedock pop-up does not work. If the window is not maximized and stretched (dragged) to fix the whole screen, then moving the mouse over icedock will work... interesting find...

Did you purposely have icedock behave this way?

[MU]

besonen:
You should be able to use most sfs files made for Puppy.
Especially those for Puppy 3, but also most for Puppy 2 should work.

You only must rename them, so that their name is "something_082.sfs", where "something" can be a word of your choice.

- KDE, please see details here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=26151

- addons.sfs adds the things to the Muppy-Mini, that else just can be found in the Standard-Iso (OpenOffice, Wine, Java, Codecs and others listed here: http://dotpups.de/Minisys-Linux/ ).
Use the DE version if you want german.
Use the EN version if you want english.


- Videopup is a french version based on Muppy with Video-Applications, created by papos.
Details:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=27611

does "addons_OO_082.sfs" contain openoffice and is it compatible with the english version of muppy 008.2?

It is the french OpenOffice + skype_static-2.0.0.43, java, celtx etc.


accessdenied:

Did you purposely have icedock behave this way?

No, the current setting is what I reached by some testing.
The behaviour you describe might be an unwanted side-effect of "transferring" the window-control partially from Icedock to the tray-system of Icewm.
I currently do not know, how this could be changed.

Mark

[accessdenied]

MU, I believe this has nothing to do with recent the tray icon edition you provided.
As a matter of fact, this was happening before changing the winoptions and Muppy-icedock but I could not distinguish when my windows were maximize or stretched out and thought is was strange that it works on some windows and not others.
I suppose it's the natureof the beast... regardless, excellent distro!!!