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Lobster
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Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 15109 Location: Paradox Realm
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Posted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 09:23 Post subject:
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We had an informal admin meeting yesterday using Skype
HairyWill made a vey good point:
Translators and editors have to be protected - from themselves . . . it ensures that they avoid the embarrassment of deleting work or otherwise experimenting too enthusiastically.
Tom and Hairy are therefore in the process of invoking your participation . . .
Tom is available on Skype (as I believe you are - or are you on Gizmo - that is it - they are both on Gizmo too)
Both Tom and Hairy are very amenable if you wish to contact them with any questions
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Billwho?

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 570 Location: still "In The Dog House" East Coast Oz
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Posted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 10:34 Post subject:
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Hi All
It seems that there are now plenty of translators and editors available for the Puppy 4 manual. But as I have been proof-reading the earlier English manuals for Oli I will keep poking around in them if nobody minds. If you add any new chapters to the earlier manuals send me a PM and I will run a second eye over them for you. Likewise if for some reason you would like me to have a look at the latest manual just send me a PM.
@Will. I do still have editor access don't I? (Haven't had to change much lately )
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HairyWill

Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 2949 Location: Southampton, UK
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Posted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 10:57 Post subject:
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@puppyluvr
I just logged in as an ordinary user and was able to view the manual fine.
I wonder if Tom screwed down the translator permissions a bit too tight yesterday. I've had a quick look and I can't see anything obvious.
@billwho
just try it
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puppyluvr

Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 3053 Location: Chickasha Oklahoma
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Posted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 11:42 Post subject:
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@ | Quote: | » Access Denied
You are not authorized to access this page. |
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tombh

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 422 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 12:06 Post subject:
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@puppyluvr: I'm pretty sure that's a cache problem. Try hard-refreshing with CTRL+F5 maybe, or clearing your browsers cache.
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puppyluvr

Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 3053 Location: Chickasha Oklahoma
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Posted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 12:53 Post subject:
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@Tombh,
Cleared browser cache. now i can view the manual and remain logged in, however the edit function seems to be missing. I have View / Review but no edit..
@thanks for the ctrl/F5 trick!!!
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davidA

Joined: 15 Jun 2008 Posts: 64 Location: Location: Location:
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Posted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 13:11 Post subject:
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Hello everyone:
Here is a suggestion (from a new user perspective) that for reasons I am not aware of, may not be possible to put in place - regarding the ongoing maintenance of the manual:
It seems to me (that if many people will be working on maintaining it) that it would be wise for only one person to move (and review) the final edit (from the place where it is edited) to its final destination. This will protect the original copy from being accidentally damaged.
I am suggesting that the manual be developed in a different work area.
There are some very useful tools that allow a group of people to work together on projects, to easily make rollbacks, to do diffs, to compare with what has been written before.
One such (very simple) tool is.
http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl Likely there are many similar ones; there may even be a tool in the existing Wiki, where this can be accomplished.
David
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tombh

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 422 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 13:43 Post subject:
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@puppyluvr: just havin me dinner, so didn't have much time to check thwat out, but made one little change. Does it work now?
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alexthedragon

Joined: 17 Jun 2008 Posts: 3 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 14:42 Post subject:
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Thank you HairyWill, I believe you are right to act with caution, it is after all just common sense. In time I am sure I will earn everyones trust.
Thank you for the new status, now I just need to learn the ropes and were in business.
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puppyluvr

Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 3053 Location: Chickasha Oklahoma
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Posted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 16:00 Post subject:
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Hello Tombh,
Now I can edit the title of a page, but not the body!!!! Only the title is highlighted for editing!!!
Sorry...
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tombh

Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 422 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 17:50 Post subject:
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@puppyluvr: I can't simulate that problem you're describing Maybe it's the particular page you're trying to edit? It'd be good if we could chat about this on skype.
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puppyluvr

Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 3053 Location: Chickasha Oklahoma
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Posted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 20:03 Post subject:
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Tom,
No, tried several pages, problem remains consistant, Only the title is open for editing..
Will watch for you on gizmo..
| Quote: | Adjective
consistant
Common misspelling of consistent. |
Wiktionary
First the Smileys, now the Spelling. Will this count on the Final Exam??
After all, I IS AN OKIE
I assure you I will run a spellckecker on any manual edits.
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alienjeff

Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 2290 Location: Winsted, CT - USA
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Posted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 21:24 Post subject:
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...counting the spelling errors in this thread. Scary.
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Lobster
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Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 15109 Location: Paradox Realm
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Posted: Thu 19 Jun 2008, 22:44 Post subject:
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Editing, proofreading, correcting, formatting manuals.
Updating to 4.01 (preparing now by reading Barrys Blog) and keeping up to date is a genuine service to Puppy.
So more editors, translators always welcome
We welcome spurts of energy but consistent efforts
as Oli has demonstrated provide the best results.
It is important to remember that the developers are
our elite team. They create and tweak Puppy
but so many other contributions are possible . . .
. . . advising noobs, which many of us still feel we are in so many areas . . . creating manuals, developing he new website, wiki, manual etc.
A good example is Eric Caneri
Set up a server for Puppy files.
Did not know how to run a server
but did and learned
Now is being supported by Pritish, Tom and others.
Ignorance or inability is transformed by effort.
Who knew that
Thanks guys.
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craftybytes

Joined: 17 Nov 2006 Posts: 298 Location: QLD AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Fri 20 Jun 2008, 01:38 Post subject:
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@puppyluvr -
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I agree Crafty, do you use Gizmo??? A great way for us all to "chat together"
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Well as I'm on dialup - I'm not sure whether "gizmo" or "skype" are viable options - I've always believed that one needed a broadband connection to use these..?
At the moment - for me to talk to you guys will have to be through these forums - my apologies for any inconveniences..!
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