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Semme · #21 Post by **Semme** » Tue 27 May 2014, 16:41

And you said this doesn't return much?

du -h --max-depth=1 /

If yes, not much, then there's something wrong here..

MrAccident · #22 Post by **MrAccident** » Tue 27 May 2014, 16:53

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# du -h --max-depth=1 /
3.7M	/sbin
100K	/audit
1.8M	/var

there's something wrong here

I suspected that from the beginning.

jamesbond · #23 Post by **jamesbond** » Tue 27 May 2014, 17:15

Intermezzo:

Semme, you have been a wonderful help for newbies. Thank you for your warm support and making them feel welcome here. Please allow me add one more tool to your arsenal: NCDU http://dev.yorhel.nl/download/ncdu-linu ... .10.tar.gz.

MrAccident - the easiest way to solve this problem is to wipe the disk clean and do a frugal install. But you want to know, right? Then read on and follow these steps carefully.
1. Boot with your LiveCD with "pfix=ram". This ensures you're running pristine install and also allows enables you to work on your sda1 disk unhindered.
2. On your desktop, click on your "sda1" drive. A rox window will open, leave it aside.
3. Download the above package.
4. Double-click and extract it.
5. Open terminal, "cd" to the directory where you extract the 'ncdu', and launch ncdu by typing "./ncdu /mnt/sda1"
6. Leave it to work for a while - it takes time to scan your disk.
7. You will then be presented with a screen that shows all the files and directories that exists at /mnt/sda1, along with their sizes.
8. You can differentiate between files and directories as directories are always preceded by "/".
9. Use cursor to navigate up and down, Enter or right-arrow to dig down inside a directory, left-arrow to go up, "q" to quit, and "?" to see help. In the help screen, scroll the window with cursor, press "q" to close it.
10. Explore a little, perhaps explore the topmost (the largest) directory by pressing Enter to go inside it, and see the next level where all that bloat comes from.
11. Please don't forget to post screenshot so Semme can continue to help you - as this tool only shows which directory takes the most space; but it won't tell you why it has collected that much content.

Note1: the link above is a static binary, it will work in *all* puppies. I'm running it on my Fatdog64 although obviously it is compiled for 32-bit puppy.
Note2: "/.." is "parent directory" so if you go inside ".." it is the same as returning to parent directory (ie - the same as presssing left arrow).

Good luck, now over to you Semme ...

MrAccident · #24 Post by **MrAccident** » Tue 27 May 2014, 18:25

(the images order became from the last to the first)
Thank you jamesbond.
Everything in mnt is files I've deleted. How did they get there? And most importantly - how to prevent deleted files from getting there in the future?
In opt - LibreOffice and OOOLight - I uninstalled; so I guess I can just delete those folders? But why weren't they deleted?
The only thing left is OpenOffice, which I do use. Can I make it smaller? Maybe get rid of "share" folder?
Other than that - everything seems like it suppose to be there.

Galbi · #25 Post by **Galbi** » Tue 27 May 2014, 19:30

Well, looking at the 3rd image, you have 2.5 Giga Bytes occupied by openoffice,libre, and ooo....

MrAccident · #26 Post by **MrAccident** » Tue 27 May 2014, 19:37

Yes; and I addressed that in the comment.

Semme · #27 Post by **Semme** » Tue 27 May 2014, 20:11

Thanks for the nod JB

>> I <sometimes> try.

==

OK now, accident guy.. This Slacko 5.7, or which? How about the browser.. Firefox?

Let's see one of these if you're still game:

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du -h --max-depth=1 /root

You wanna gain control of *how* your home, or user (~/) directory, uses space.

MrAccident · #28 Post by **MrAccident** » Tue 27 May 2014, 20:27

Slacko 5.7 and Firefox.

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# du -h --max-depth=1 /root
4.0K	/root/.sfs_mgr
192K	/root/Web-Server
8.0K	/root/.inkscapelite
8.0K	/root/.mplayer
55M	/root/.config
8.0K	/root/.dillo
20K	/root/my-applications
16K	/root/.xarchive
8.0K	/root/.gdmap
4.0K	/root/.icons
12K	/root/Startup
80K	/root/.pequalizer
12K	/root/.fltk
2.2M	/root/.macromedia
4.0K	/root/.compose-cache
504K	/root/Choices
584K	/root/.gimp-2.8
4.0K	/root/puppy-reference
48K	/root/.pfilesearch
3.4M	/root/.adobe
48K	/root/spot
28K	/root/my-documents
4.9M	/root/.packages
12K	/root/.notecase
132M	/root/.mozilla
12K	/root/.dbus
4.0K	/root/.Trash
16K	/root/.pavrecord
16K	/root/programs
84K	/root/File-Sharing
108K	/root/.sylpheed-2.0
60K	/root/.beaver
80K	/root/network
208K	/root/Desktop
4.0K	/root/.thumbnails
8.0K	/root/.pfind
172K	/root/.pup_event
377M	/root/.wine
4.0K	/root/Downloads
1.5M	/root/.Skype
8.0K	/root/.desksetup
66M	/root/.opera
32K	/root/.xchat2
28K	/root/.snap2
16K	/root/.netsurf
16K	/root/.precord
4.0K	/root/ftpd
120K	/root/.jwm
31M	/root/.pmusic
144K	/root/.pburn
4.0K	/root/.hardinfo
1.3M	/root/.local
120M	/root/.cache
36K	/root/.osmo
12K	/root/.gwhere
800M	/root

Semme · #29 Post by **Semme** » Tue 27 May 2014, 20:35

You say you removed Wine? If yes, you can delete /root/.wine.

Click the *eye* up top on your ROX toolbar to see it.

Mozilla and Opera can both be slimmed down with cache adjustments.

These are handled via each apps preferences menu.

You might just as well unload any of those big office suites when not in use.

All these will get'choo outta the red.

MrAccident · #30 Post by **MrAccident** » Tue 27 May 2014, 21:03

There are a few other programs I deleted: dillo, beaver, netsurf, FireFox 17 (downloaded the new version; and it's separate).

FireFox or Opera don't pose a problem.
If I'll get rid of the files I supposadly deleted, from mnt, and LibreOffice (there's also an sfs in "home") and OOOLight from opt - there should be plenty of room. So should I delete them?

Semme · #31 Post by **Semme** » Wed 28 May 2014, 09:55

Installed apps, ones you've installed, are usually removed by selecting them in PPM. Sure this leaves folders behind, but their size is negligible. The leftovers worth removing are in the users directory, or ~/. If not hidden, they're likely in your .cache and .config folder.

SFS files you can simply delete, though I'd choose to have them unloaded prior to doing so.

Does everything else seem to run OK?

MrAccident · #32 Post by **MrAccident** » Wed 28 May 2014, 13:31

Now 4.2G free. I still don't understand why deleted files end in sda5, the same place where they were; but I can only see them when in Live-CD and I think that sda5 is not even mounted.
Thank you for all the help so far.

CatDude · #33 Post by **CatDude** » Wed 28 May 2014, 14:49

Hi

MrAccident wrote:....but I can only see them when in Live-CD and I think that sda5 is not even mounted.

I suspect that you downloaded/placed the files into the mountpoint /mnt/sda5
when the actual device (partition) was unmounted.

When you do mount sda5, you would no longer see those files,
but instead see the contents of the actual partition.

I suspect quite a few of us have fallen victim to that before today.

CatDude
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MrAccident · #34 Post by **MrAccident** » Wed 28 May 2014, 15:05

Yep; that must be it. Thanks.

Sylvander · #35 Post by **Sylvander** » Wed 28 May 2014, 17:53

CatDude wrote:I suspect that you downloaded/placed the files into the mountpoint /mnt/sda5
when the actual device (partition) was unmounted.

When you do mount sda5, you would no longer see those files,
but instead see the contents of the actual partition.

Duh!

Any chance you could explain that so that dumb old me might understand?
Like...what is a mountpoint etc.

MrAccident · #36 Post by **MrAccident** » Wed 28 May 2014, 18:35

In my case - probably all those files were downloaded from FireFox. What I saw was that the file was downloading in FireFox; and then when I went to the folder, and noticing along the way that I haven't mounted the partition - the file wasn't there.
So my guess is that the file is downloaded instead to Puppy's partition; where it creates folders with the same names. I have that folder's link on the desktop; and when I opened it, before I mounted the partition - I saw a few files there. I guess after you mount the partition\drive - it switches from that partition created in Puppy's drive - to the actual partition. Where the "imaginary" one goes - I don't know.

Sylvander · #37 Post by **Sylvander** » Wed 28 May 2014, 19:27

In the past I noticed that if/when I attempted to download/copy/write to a PFS [partition filesystem] that wasn't mounted...
The item[s] would be saved in the /tmp folder.
Which would then be lost at shutdown/reboot.
[All items in the /tmp folder are always lost at shutdown/reboot]

I don't know if all Puppies work that way, or whether new Puppies don't anymore.

nooby · #38 Post by **nooby** » Fri 30 May 2014, 08:56

Thanks CatDude, cool that so many of you want to be
of needed help on this subject. It has bewildered me too
for so many years.

To the OP you are lucky getting that much attention.

So be nice now to all active. Be prepared that at some topics
you barely get a response at all. I guess that to give as much
info on the computer the set up and exactly what did happen
and when in the sequence and any warning or error message
is vital to solving an issue. No criticism at all. Just friendly thoughts,

Nope I am not active on the thread. Just wanted to say a friendly Hello
and big hug to CatDude and Sylvander et all.

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