Fatdog64 700 alpha1

[Rangan Masti]

@Rangan Masti - the 32bit sfs is still the old sfs from the 600 series, based on slacko 5.3.3 so it won't have the latest glibc etc. It's just a temporary measure so people migrating from 631 can use 32-bit software.

Going forward, we will probably adopt the latest slacko (6.0 at the time of writing) and convert it into 32-bit library. Alternatively we can also build our own 32-bit library from scratch the way that Fatdog64 is build from scratch - but due to resource constraint this isn't likely. If you really really need the latest library *NOW*, then consider this method instead.

@gcmartin, I will consider that adding the pre-defined structure, but those will never live in /root/tftpd again; it will go elsewhere (either /var/lib/tftp or /srv/tftp - haven't decided yet).
@jamesbond - thank you for your response! This helped me

[eowens2]

Fatdog has said that some .pets will install on the 700 series, and some will not. Is there any way of predicting whether a pet will install correctly, other than trial and error? And if a .pet does not install, does it leave unusable files scattered about? Any harm done?

Is there a place somewhere in the startup scripts where I can put “nohup /usr/sbin/WIFI-Keepalive &

[jamesbond]

Fatdog has said that some .pets will install on the 700 series, and some will not. Is there any way of predicting whether a pet will install correctly, other than trial and error? And if a .pet does not install, does it leave unusable files scattered about? Any harm done?

Start a sandbox. Install your pets there. Run it. If you don't like it, leave it and your system is unharmed. The command line to install packages (after it has been converted from PET to TXZ) is "installpkg".

Is there a place somewhere in the startup scripts where I can put “nohup /usr/sbin/WIFI-Keepalive &

[gcmartin]

Create a new file in /etc/init.d ... put your stuff there. This is a good idea - perhaps I should create a "template" for others who needs to customise this.

This is another great idea from you. Should you do so, it would be good in WOOFCE so that this useful need cascades across Puppyland builders. It would provide a common place for user startup additions that occur once on the bootup, but not on subsequent desktop starts when restarting desktops become necessary from time to time.

Continued Excellence from you!!! Thanks

[OldChap]

kirk: Thanks, yes I am trying to work with Linux x64 7.4.42 from http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

I may be misunderstanding the libraries thing...

Historically, 64 bit Ubuntu,Mint etc. required a "sudo apt-get ia32-libs" to get Boinc going but that may have been just the easiest way to ensure the necessary files were available.

adding the slacko-3-sfs has gotten me further forward than before in that the client seemed to be running but there is the likelihood that there are just a few specific files needed.... I shall investigate further.

Will spend some time with it now to see how far I can get

EDIT: Trying to start Manager using cli ... I seem to be missing "libwx_gtk2u_html-2.8.so.0:"

[Jim1911]

For those who are interested in running 32bit Windows software. I used version2013's latest wine-1.7.23-i486_v1.1.pet which works well with Fatdog64 700 after conversion to an sfs. Also required is the Fatdog64 600 32bit-slacko-3.sfs. I also converted version2013's wine_extras-v2.pet to an sfs which is also useful in the Wine setup.

Jim

[kirk]

OldChap,

Checked out the latest stable source code of boinc and compiled it. You'll need these two packages to test it out:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/packag ... 6_64-1.txz

http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/packag ... 6_64-1.txz

Download those two then right click on them and select install package. Boinc installs to /usr/share/BOINC and there's a menu entry under Personal in the main menu for the boinc manager. This is just the client not the server.

It launches and lets you select projects that it gets from the internet, but that's as far as I've tested it. Let me know if it actually works. I haven't made the updates for it to show up in Gslapt (the package manager).

[Illutorium]

For those who are interested in running 32bit Windows software. I used version2013's latest wine-1.7.23-i486_v1.1.pet which works well with Fatdog64 700 after conversion to an sfs. Also required is the Fatdog64 600 32bit-slacko-3.sfs. I also converted version2013's wine_extras-v2.pet to an sfs which is also useful in the Wine setup.

Jim

in a v2.1 is will be works too...
When If you want running a 64bit Windows Apps (Available from My Old post at a "Wine64 - Only for Fatdog" [Incoming I will be move with a Newest account] that's a depend to change a name folder from a 32bit Wine (Because that's a create build is will be a 32bit Libraries development When If I will be tried when It's goes to be end at a "Error" When that's goes only be create a 64bit instead.),That's must be a rename from ".wine" to ".wine32" [at a /root/ with a Ctrl+H] and That's My build doesn't be depend a 32bit libraries because that's a Native. (as a --enable-win64)
When I tested with a Newest Wine64... 7zip and Firefox (Nightly) at 5.2 Kernel from Wine is will be works around...

[Billtoo]

I downloaded and compiled cairo-dock-3.3.2.tar.gz and it's working
well although I need to learn more about it.
I find that if you move your SDHC card or flash drive from one pc to
another some applications that were compiled won't work on the new pc
until they are compiled again, Goggles Music Manager,Mplayer,and
Smplayer in this case.
The other pc had nvidia graphics and this pc has intel graphics.

[eowens2]

Fatdog,

I note that the touchpad drivers for Acer C720 Chromebook were included in the 700 alpha1 version of Fatdog64.

The touchpad works well on my Acer C710 Chromebook OOTB.

Thank you!

[Billtoo]

After hammering on my SDHC card install for a few days I formatted the
card and installed Fatdog64 700a1 once again.
I spent a couple of hours compiling the parts of xfce4 and it's working
well...Yay!

EDIT: I added cairo dock and it's working well now.

[neerajkolte]

I added cairo dock and it's working well now.

Hmmm.. cairo dock looks like wbar in basic setup. But I hear it's mighty customizable. I have downloaded it's .tar.gz files. Could you share how you compiled it, so I might also try.

Thanks.

- Neeraj.

[Billtoo]

I added cairo dock and it's working well now.

Hmmm.. cairo dock looks like wbar in basic setup. But I hear it's mighty customizable. I have downloaded it's .tar.gz files. Could you share how you compiled it, so I might also try.

Thanks.

- Neeraj.

I unpacked cairo-dock-3.3.2.tar.gz to a directory and then opened the
terminal in that directory.

cmake CMakeLists.txt -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr
make -j4
make install

When finished start cairo-dock and right click on it to do the
configuration.

I don't have any plugins installed,(I don't really have a clue how to add
them) I'm just using the basic dock for launching applications, you can drag items
from the fatdog menu to the dock and then they can be launched from the dock.

Mint 17 or Debian testing would have the full cairo-dock with plugins
available.

EDIT:Here's cairo-dock in my Debian Wheezy 686 pae install, all the plugins
are available in the configuration screen.

[live]

Hi,

First run of "Fatdog64 700 alpha1" on Core5, works like a charm for me, didn't try any external packages such as Google Earth, Skype, Kdenlive, etc.

Suggestions:
* A start-up config, esp: keyboard and internet connexion, sound speaker and microphone configuration.
* for people like me who uses an external monitor from a laptop also a prompt up config for that (people might not know where to find it)
* my desktop monitor 1366x768, my external monitor (1280x1024) => icons to the right of the screen do not show-up on external monitor (same with Precise), should be placed <1024 px.


Missing audio extension support, i.e. no default opening for:
.m4a & .m4b
.opus
.ogg if audio codec is opus
.flac
.eac3

Quid:
* no battery alarm (xbatarlarm)
* calculator Calcoo (found it small buttons, I prefer gCalc as in Precise)
* ROX default with thumbnail both image & video preview
* termit-2.3.0 as replacement terminal
* I encourage you to try to replace AbiWord & Gnumeric with OpenOffice 2.2.x.
Why this oldy?
* Fast, not as today heavy LibreOffice
* Additional features, such as .ppt support
* Light


Consider some updates:
* ntfs-3g to 2014.2.15 (works for me on Precise)
http://www.tuxera.com/community/release-history

* ffmpeg & x264lib to Aug 2014
x264 benefit noticeable encoding gain since 2014-04
ffmpeg 2.3.x does offer new interesting filters & codec support

Many thanks for all your work!

[Gobbi]

I'm using a wireless keyboard Logitech K400 with my old laptop, through a wireless unifying device - it's useful with the touchpad incorporated.
I noticed that if I forget the optical drive tray opened during the boot process - let's say I choose to boot from the hard drive - it is not recognized until I restart X from the laptop's keyboard.

Another bothering thing is that after successfully using Pburn - the progress window doesn't shut itself down . In fact it is difficult to shut down . I didn't find the specific process in Task Manager , so I restarted X again.

Then there is the GPG Keys which Gslapt does not accept and so I can not install new packages through it even with fresh downloaded ISO.
I saw the file in the repo but Gslapt does not offer the choice to load directly the file . Can anybody help me to load it somehow ( changing a file , adding to a directory , from the terminal )

[eowens2]

Dragging and dropping icons of often-used menu items to the desktop, thus enabling a shortcut, is very convenient.

Is there any way that this process can be extended to Control Panel programs?

[smokey01]

Un-installing built in packages with the package manager seems to work but it does not remove the .desktop file so the menu entry remains.

[jamesbond]

@billtoo - you can try starting xfce4 with "xwin xfwm4".

@live - thank you for the suggestions.
"my desktop monitor 1366x768, my external monitor (1280x1024) => icons to the right of the screen do not show-up on external monitor (same with Precise), should be placed <1024 px" - I presume you refer to the panel tray icons. You can do a right-click and change the width from 100% to 1024 pixel.

"I encourage you to try to replace AbiWord & Gnumeric with OpenOffice 2.2.x."
I can't find 64-bit version of openoffice 2.2.x, and even if I could, I remember that it's XLS handling was a bit rough round the edge (gnumeric is much better in that respect).

@gobbi - I've removed the package signing for now. It doesn't work in alpha1 (it will on future versions)

For your keyboard: try doing "modprobe hid-logitech-dj"

I will look into pburn.

@eowens2 - you can't do it from Control Panel, unfortunately. But you can launch Rox and go to /usr/share/applications and drag-and-drop the desktop files from there to the desktop directly.

@smokey01 - try uninstall "desktop-files-override" package too.

Note - one can always restore the removed built-in packages by running "fatdog-restore-basepkg.sh".

EDIT: clarification.

[Billtoo]

@billtoo - you can try starting xfce4 with "xwin xfwm4".

In xfce4-410:

Xwin xfwm4 works better for a single monitor setup but startxfce4 works
better for a dual monitor setup.

When xwin xfwm4 is used shift prtsc works to capture the screen but
logout doesn't work,also can't have different background on each
monitor.

When using startxfce4 is used shift prtsc doesn't work but logout does
allowing poweroff from the prompt.

Anyways, Fatdog64 700a1 is amazing

Thanks

[Gobbi]

I've removed the package signing for now. It doesn't work in alpha1 (it will on future versions)
For your keyboard: try doing "modprobe hid-logitech-dj"
I will look into pburn.

Thank's jamesbond , Gslapt is working now

Doing "modprobe hid-logitech-dj" gave no answer ... Anyway the glitch was only if the optical drive tray was opened during the boot , otherwise - no problem .

I found that sandbox and lxc open directly with respective 'xiwin' file in /usr/share/sandbox and usr/share/sandbox/lxc . I couldn't do it in Fatdog-630 ... It would be nice to have them in the Main Menu ...
However using this way these tools gave as result the fact that after the first restart of X in fatdog , the changes ( I only changed GTK theme , Openbox and the wallpaper ) passed from sandbox or lxc to fatdog . I did it 3 times on two different laptops with the same result.

Now, did anybody try to make a remaster Fatdog700a1
Previously I did one , took the two files for a frugal install on an hdd and it ran OK . But I could not boot from the DVD . I remastered then 3 more times different versions of FD700a1 . One of them had both initrd and vmlinuz corrupted . I couldn't boot from neither of those DVD's on the two laptops mentioned above . Error : Failed to load Idlinux.c32
I think it should be an error the way the ISO is packed , since it is working in frugal install. I'm posting from one of them...