My report on Quirky 6.0

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#801 Post by BarryK »

The command interpreter for this script is bourne shell #!/bin/sh. Ubuntu links /bin/sh to dash. Echo is used in this script and since there is no exectuable set for echo the builtin is used.

The echo built-in command for the dash interpreter does not have provision for the -e flag. Thus - e gets piped to fdisk during for drive partitioning statements and drive fails to be partitioned correctly.

Statements such as the bellow fail because "-" and "e" get piped to fdisk instead of just o w and n. Also the carriage returns are not sent either since the -e flag is not valid for the dash built-in echo.

echo -e 'o\nw\n' | fdisk /dev/${TARGETDRIVE} > /tmp/installquirkyfdisk.log 2>&1

two simple fixes are to use /bin/echo or just change the command interpreter to bash which seems to be the easiest fix for this problem. Script runs successfully in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS xterm using #!/bin/bash for command interpreter.

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Ok, I have put this into the script:

ECHOEXE="$(which echo)" #141103 use external echo.

And used:
${ECHOEXE} -e ....

Rather than using bash.

Note, cannot assume path is /bin/echo anymore.
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#802 Post by Sylvander »

BarryK wrote:Quirky Unicorn is version 6.2. We have an update Service Pack 6.2.1.
Aha...
Looks like I installed using the wrong files [install-quirky-to-drive.sh & quirky-6.1.usfs.xz].
The "Version Upgrade Manager" shows:
Current Version = 6.1
Highest available upgrade version = 6.1.4

Where should I get the correct files to use the script to install version 6.2 to a 4GB Flash Drive?


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#804 Post by Sylvander »

OK...
1.
a. Found the correct file [unicorn-6.2.usfs.xz] and used the [install-quirky-to-drive.sh] script to write it to my [partitions newly deleted] Flash Drive.

b. Booted it just fine. :D
Typing this from it now.

2. Noticed something whilst working within the Unicorn-6.2 version on the 8GB Flash Drive, as follows:
a. Because I am accustomed to working in Puppies that "don't ever save" [i.e. never copy back to their storage = pupsave file]...
I never worry about pulling a Flash Drive [that holds a pupsave] causing corruption.
So...
b. I pulled out the 8GB Flash Drive whilst working, and only then thought "uh-oh" "shouldn't aughta done that", and plugged it back in.
Too late...
The partition icons on the desktop began turning to triangles!
c. Tried to reboot without success, so I powered-off, pulled the 8GB, left the 4GB connected, powered back on, and it booted into the QU on that 4GB Flash Drive.
d. Need to now check if there's any irreversible damage to the QU on the 8GB.
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e. OK, rebooted into QU on 8GB Flash Drive....
QU noticed that there had been an unclean shutdown, ran in a ramdisk, did various tests and listed them with their results [all were OK], and told me to hit <Enter> to reboot, which I did.
The following boot took me to the desktop, and here I am.
All's looking good. :D

3. The performance and appearance/layout of this QU-6.2 makes me VERY inclined to want to make it my number-1 Puppy, but...
I don't think I'm prepared to give up using my other top Puppies [Slacko & Precise] that make possible:
The ability to CHOOSE "to save or not to save".
Having the [practical] incorruptibility of "live" optical disk, coupled with...
The ability to easily delete [and replace with a backup copy] those files [in the pupsave] that ARE corruptible.

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#805 Post by James C »

The green is starting to grow on me...... :lol:
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#806 Post by BarryK »

James C wrote:The green is starting to grow on me...... :lol:
You are not Irish are you? :lol:

Interesting info on the colour green and Ireland:

http://askville.amazon.com/color-green- ... d=10065789

I will stay with the green theme for the Unicorn series, except maybe there is a better choice for the desktop icons -- there was a post earlier about a couple of other green icon-sets.

Actually, at first I wasn't sure, but I am getting to like it.
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#807 Post by BarryK »

A quick note about Gnumeric.

There have been some posts in favour of Gnumeric, rather than the PlanMaker in FreeOffice (SoftMaker Office).

I don't know whether you guys have really given PlanMaker a "fair go", but anyway, yes guneric is good, so I am bringing it back.

I have created a cut-down FreeOffice PET, with just TextMaker and Presentations, and reinstated the gnumeric PET (and goffice).

This combo will result in the final compressed .xz build being about 1.3MB smaller.

I also created a separate PlanMaker PET, that users can install if they want to use PlanMaker rather than gnumeric.

Note, I have been testing TextMaker against Abiword, and TextMaker consistently rendered .doc and .docx documents better, much better.
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#808 Post by Volhout »

The green glow icon set is from dejan555.
To be found under eye candy-> icon themes exchange -> page 7

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#809 Post by BarryK »

Raffy,
Would you mind testing Pmusic in Quirky Unicorn 6.2?

I remembered why I had Aqualung in Quirky Tahr instead of Pmusic:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... -6.0.5.htm

Quoting:
Tahr 6.0.3 has dropped Pmusic (audio file player) in favour of Aqualung. Pmusic does not work properly in Quirky Tahr, probably the ffmpeg-libav problem again.
Quirky Unicorn has Pmusic 3.3.0, as only have gtkdialog 0.8.3
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#810 Post by Sylvander »

BarryK wrote:Actually, at first I wasn't sure, but I am getting to like it.
1. Oh NO, Barry, NO!
Always trust your 1st impressions by default.
They are usually correct.
You don't need to "get to like" something that is intrinsically right.
Look at clothing fashions through the ages.
Some have intrinsic merit, and stand the test of time.
Others look just plain STOOPID. :roll:

When I saw the QU green desktop for the 1st time...
I thought "that has to go straight away".

2. As is normal with a BK production:
It is technically superior [I'm a "know little", but that's how it seems to me].
But looks pretty basic.
I'm trained in Engineering...your a man after my own heart.
1st I deleted ALL of the desktop wallpapers and replaced them with a set I keep.
Then I changed the desktop icon set to Quirky60 [the few there are, are all very basic].
Then I changed the JWM Theme to Gradient-blue [a "competent" range of choices here].
The finished result is nowhere near as good as the old "BoxPup-4.3.1", but it'll do.

3. I'm pleasantly surprised how well I'm getting along with Seamonkey.
I usually end up using Firefox, but so far I feel no need to dump Seamonkey.
It seems very fast, and easy to use, and doean't look too bad.
A bit basic, but hey-ho, I'll go with it.
Once in a while I boot into XP, and I'm immediately struck how slick/glossy/professional it looks; makes even the best looking Puppies I'm using seem rather basic, but there's no way I'm using XP rather than Puppy.

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#811 Post by raffy »

BarryK wrote:Raffy,
Would you mind testing Pmusic in Quirky Unicorn 6.2?
It works OK only after the pet upgrade to 6.2.1.
Puppy user since Oct 2004. Want FreeOffice? [url=http://puppylinux.info/topic/freeoffice-2012-sfs]Get the sfs (English only)[/url].

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#812 Post by Billtoo »

There's no shortage of audio/video players available in PPM, latest
versions in most cases too.
I use xbmc most often.
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#813 Post by BarryK »

There is now an experimental live-CD:

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#814 Post by slavvo67 »

Hi Barry,

I booted the Live CD and it's working well on a "newer" Dell Desktop (Newer = Less than 5 years old). Thank you for taking the time to support other formats. This was a class move and while others would have suggested the user find a different iso that would suit them, you took extra time to accommodate others. Applause!

I have been using the USB version without issue and the Live CD works quite well.

Not sure if it's worth noting but I think the latest heartbleed and bash issues are not patched in Unicorn.

There is only one other item that you could hopefully shed some light on. My personal storage is partially used up without adding any packages to the system. This is both on the USB and the Live CD. For example, on this current box, it states I have 1.3G personal storage but only 544M free space. My USB auto-saves without pop-ups, etc. Very nice touch.

(Specs below)

-Computer-
Processor : 2x Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5800 @ 3.20GHz
Memory : 3078MB (663MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Quirky Unicorn
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 03 Nov 2014 05:57:02 PM GMT-8
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) G45/G43 x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
-Memory-
Total Memory : 3078300 kB
Free Memory : 1542768 kB
MemAvailable : 2409684 kB

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#815 Post by don570 »

A new version of Right click menu utility will convert ogg and wma files
to wav

http://www.datafilehost.com/d/3441d3a0
(untick download manager box to avoid installing the instaler)
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Fast download of ISO
http://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/quir ... erimental/

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#816 Post by cthisbear »

" There is now an experimental live-CD: "

Thanks Uncle Baz....Fantastic.

You know I announced your new release on Whirlpool.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-re ... ?t=2328184

You should pop in and say hello.


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#817 Post by Billtoo »

The Quirky live-CD 6.2.1.91 boots up fine on my Gateway desktop pc.

Computer
Processor 8x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Memory 3104MB (1060MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky Unicorn
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Mon 03 Nov 2014 07:03:45 PM EST
Display
Resolution 3840x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Gallium 0.4 on NVC8
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation

I updated PPM and added arand to manage 2 monitors, + a couple of
small utilities.

How do I save this, there is no room left to do a snapshot?
I thought I might take a snapshot,save it to the hard drive and
restore it next time that I booted the dvd.

If I could use hard drive space to take the snapshot and restore it
next bootup that should work, maybe not enough memory free for that.

Maybe PAE kernel?
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#818 Post by trio »

Barry,

Just tried jwmthememaker 1.7.3 in Quirky 6.2.1 and it works.

If you want to upgrade

Thanks & regards,
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#819 Post by James C »

Quirky 6.2.1.91 live cd....... frugal install.

All basics working on boot.

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-Computer-
Processor		: 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Memory		: 2065MB (647MB used)
Machine Type		: Physical machine
Operating System		: Quirky Unicorn
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Mon 03 Nov 2014 10:28:47 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution		: 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 865G x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor		: The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter		: ICH4 - Intel ICH5

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       2065052      1262324       802728            0        11760
-/+ buffers:            1250564       814488
Swap:      2150396            0      2150396
# 

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PUPMODE=2
PDEV1='zram0'
DEV1FS='ext2'
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#820 Post by James C »

Actual live cd this time.Everything working on boot.

Needed to use the nouveau.noaccel=1 kernel parameter.

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VIDEO REPORT: Quirky Unicorn, version 6.2.1.91

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
  Loaded modules: dbe dri2 extmod fb glx kbd mouse shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

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# glxgears
1164 frames in 5.0 seconds = 232.701 FPS
1200 frames in 5.0 seconds = 239.848 FPS
1202 frames in 5.0 seconds = 240.373 FPS

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-Computer-
Processor		: 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory		: 3373MB (706MB used)
Machine Type		: Physical machine
Operating System		: Quirky Unicorn
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Mon 03 Nov 2014 10:47:25 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution		: 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.5, 128 bits)
X11 Vendor		: The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter		: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       3373188      1547640      1825548            0        11868
-/+ buffers:            1535772      1837416
Swap:      8294396            0      8294396
# 

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PUPMODE=2
PDEV1='zram0'
DEV1FS='ext2'
Nice to experiment with.
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