Problem using the same Puppy on two laptops?

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Problem using the same Puppy on two laptops?

#1 Post by Robin2 »

I have a Compaq CQ10 notebook and a newer HP15 laptop.

I would like to be able to have TahrPup on a USB stick that I could use on either one with the same software downloads.

The standard downloaded Tahrpup 6.0.5 works fine on the CQ10.

But the HP15 needs a different Broadcom wireless driver and works better (properly?) with the amd video driver update.

The problem seems to be that the wireless driver and the video driver go into the save file and from that point on the save file won't work on the CQ10.

Is there are workaround for this?
Ideally the hardware specific stuff would be in one save file and everything that is common (such as GIMP) would be in a different save file.

Also, the HP15 has 4GB of ram so I believe it needs the PAE version of Tahrpup whereas the CQ10 only has 2GB. Should the CQ10 work with the PAE version?

Thanks

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#2 Post by bigpup »

The save does have specific hardware settings for the hardware it was made on.

Just make a separate save file/folder for each computer.

You have one already for one computer.

When you boot it on the other computer use boot option:

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puppy pfix=ram
It will boot not using the save.
Just make sure it is not using the save.
Should look like it did the first time you booted.
All the setup needs to be done.

Configure for that computer and shutdown.
When asked to make a save, make one and give it a added name to identify it for that computer.

Now when you boot, a window will pop up asking you which save to use.
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#3 Post by bigpup »

Should the CQ10 work with the PAE version?
Yes.
The PAE version will work.

Some really old computers may have problems fully support the PAE features.
I do not think you have that problem.
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#4 Post by Robin2 »

bigpup wrote:The save does have specific hardware settings for the hardware it was made on.
Just make a separate save file/folder for each computer.
I know I can do that but I was hoping to avoid it because with separate savefiles I must download the software (GIMP, Thunderbird, Sqliteman etc etc) twice.

Perhaps the problem can be solved from a different direction ...
If I have a save file that contains software downloaded with the Puppy package manager can I easily copy that software to a different save file?

...R

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#5 Post by nic007 »

Robin2 wrote:
bigpup wrote:The save does have specific hardware settings for the hardware it was made on.
Just make a separate save file/folder for each computer.
I know I can do that but I was hoping to avoid it because with separate savefiles I must download the software (GIMP, Thunderbird, Sqliteman etc etc) twice.

Perhaps the problem can be solved from a different direction ...
If I have a save file that contains software downloaded with the Puppy package manager can I easily copy that software to a different save file?

...R
Use SFS-addons for those added software (place the sfs files in the root directory of pendrive) and use very small savefiles just for personal settings on the different machines.
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#6 Post by bigpup »

everything that is common (such as GIMP) would be in a different save file.

This gets a little tricky.
Stuff installed normally goes into the save being used.

You can put stuff in this location:

mnt/home

That is the area on the flash drive outside of the save file.
Best way to understand is look at mnt/home to see what is there.
Both computers can access mnt/home.

Use mnt/home as a storage location for stuff.
Downloads, pictures, documents, etc.....

If you have an SFS file package for say Gimp.
That can be put in mnt/home
Both computers can see it.
SFS file packages are special files with the complete program in them.
You use SFS-Load-On-the-fly to make them load.
They do not install, but as long as they are loaded, they act like they are installed. Menu entries, etc....

There are SFS files of most major programs in the Additional Software section of this forum.

Some info here may help you
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62110
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#7 Post by Robin2 »

I may not have been making sufficient use of ready-made SFS files for major applications. I will look into that. I have tended just to use Puppy Package Manager the same as I used the package manager in Ubuntu.

However it is probably the small stuff - such as Lxterminal, Sqliteman and minicom that are a nuisance if they are not readily available. And add-ons for Firefox and Geany.

I will have another (closer) look at the keep-savefile-small Thread.

As a general observation I believe I have seen Puppy proclaimed as capable of working on any PC from a USB stick - but the reality seems not to be quite so straightforward. :)

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#8 Post by bigpup »

As a general observation I believe I have seen Puppy proclaimed as capable of working on any PC from a USB stick - but the reality seems not to be quite so straightforward.

In general yes for older computers.
Newer computers and there hardware is an issue.
Puppy versions need to constantly be updated or developed, to support their hardware.
Seeing how no one that works on Puppy is working for money, only the fun of coding and supporting Puppy.
It takes time to provide new hardware support.
We the users of Puppy are the testers for a new version of Puppy.

Example:
The Puppy version you are trying to use was developed before the computer was made.
How could it possibly have drivers or support files for hardware that was not even available when the Puppy was made.

Another issue is the Linux kernel is starting to drop support for older hardware.
Trying to pick a Linux kernel that will support most hardware is starting to be an issue.
Example:
Tahrpup offers several Linux kernels that can be used with it.
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