Woof CE Debian Stretch and Devuan Ascii Based Development

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musher0 · #321 Post by **musher0** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 09:07

Hello all.

You better set the error catcher in file defaultfilemanager, like so:

#!/bin/sh
# defaultfilemanager
####
exec roxfiler "$@" &>/dev/null

if you don't want your xerrs.log file to get cluttered, like so:

(ROX-Filer:26617): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 2160 was not found when attempting to remove it

(ROX-Filer:26617): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 2928 was not found when attempting to remove it

(ROX-Filer:26617): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 4045 was not found when attempting to remove it

(ROX-Filer:26617): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 8751 was not found when attempting to remove it

(ROX-Filer:26617): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 9926 was not found when attempting to remove it

every time you run ROX.

First time I see this, BTW. I don't know the cause of these errors.

The &>/dev/null stop-gap will do for now. But could one of the Superior
Powers at woof-CE please investigate and try to permanently eliminate the
cause of this error originating from ROX? TIA.

IHTH.

belham2 · #322 Post by **belham2** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 10:55

Hi all,

I am near to uploading and releasing my ISO. Wanted to give another teaser taste of what you'll be getting/seeing, especially if you have dual screens. And, yes, after much spirited head-banging, transparent Conkly is back )for now). Unfortunately, though, when transparency came back, Nathan Wallpaper Setter (NWS) decided to give me the middle-finger and stop working. NWS will not change the wallpaper through itself. Only way it now changes if you manually go in and modify the /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin.xml. Grrrrr......the ghosts & goblins of these woof-CE builds are inumerable & becoming legendary, lol. What could now be causing this sudden NWS behavior (or lack of it)?

Still, looking ahead, here's a .desktop image background I made from an existing image. I used two graphics programs, both of which will come with the build: the old standy mtpaint, and then the fantastic Fotoxx for warping & mind-bending things. Also, used JWN theme creator to deepen highlights, and placed the quite nice nice-looking 'Oranchelo' icons to go with it all. Remember, with 43 GTK themes, 28 icon themes, 42 JWM themes and 31 wallpapers, you'll be customizing & tricking the looks of your dpup-stretch to your heart's desires

Enjoy this cube for now!

Billtoo · #323 Post by **Billtoo** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 11:14

I put this one together using PeasyDisk with parts of Stretch-700a1,and
Xenialpup-7.0.8

System: Host: puppypc2032 Kernel: 4.9.13 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 Distro: Dpup Stretch 7.0.0a1
Machine: Device: desktop System: Compaq-Presario product: AU194AA-A2L CQ5123F serial: MXX9300M0F
Mobo: MSI model: Boston v: 1.0 BIOS: Phoenix v: 5.24 date: 06/19/2009
CPU: Dual core Pentium E5200 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1600/2500 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.org 1.19.1 driver: nvidia tty size: 132x40 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (3.2% used)
Info: Processes: 147 Uptime: 1:40 Memory: 233.7/3153.7MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5

Added many applications with PPM + installed pets.

Works good so far.

@belham2
Looking forward to trying out you iso.

fredx181 · #324 Post by **fredx181** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 11:57

Hi Belham, looks great your preview pic.
Just a small thing, I noticed the big J in conky view, if you put attached openlogos font (remove fake .gz) in /usr/share/fonts and restart conky you'll see the debian logo.

Fred

belham2 · #325 Post by **belham2** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 12:04

fredx181 wrote:Hi Belham, looks great your preview pic.
Just a small thing, I noticed the big J in conky view, if you put attached openlogos font (remove fake .gz) in /usr/share/fonts and restart conky you'll see the debian logo.

Fred

Dang...Fred...lol...I fooled with that for hours and could not figured out what you did. I messed with that first line of conky a lot, but it still was giving the me "J" I finally accepted the "J" must mean Junior, and as in Junior Idiot for staying with this build thing, haha. Thanks for the fix, will get the official logo in later today.

belham2 · #326 Post by **belham2** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 12:09

While awaiting another dpup-stretch build here to finish, here's a quick (took about ~3 mins to click and set-up) another new desktop look on one of the other dpup-stretches I am running>

I call it the Stretch-Mellon-Yellin-Ooozing-Relaxation look for all you laid, back cool guys out there drinking mangos in the mid-day sunshine. Used Futwerk base bkgrnd and modified it a bit, given the alcohol you all are drinking (It's Saturday!!) Conky is even also accepting the wierd colors nicely, lol. Enjoy

musher0 · #327 Post by **musher0** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 12:49

Hi belham2.

Very ugly screen capture above, very ugly!

~~~~~~~~~

About building philosophy, I'm going the opposite way from you guys: I'm
closer to grey's former "NOP" approach (if it means anything to you.) Or
jrb's approach for the Puppy 4.12 (geez, just mentioning this makes me
feel old!) In other words, I'll try to go minimalist in the main sfs, with a
number of independently loadable sfs's to complement.

~~~~~~~~~

About wallpaper setting:
It's very convenient, but one doesn't have an absolute need for Nathan's
Wallpaper Setter. ROX has its own.

Right-click on any icon on the desktop,
click the item second from the bottom in the pop-up menu,
drag a picture into the rectangle,
tick one of the stretch (pun intended!) buttons:

you're done. (Please see attached.)

Sorry for the French, but I've got my octopus

+/- 90 % localized now.

IHTH. BFN.

musher0 · #328 Post by **musher0** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 18:16

Hi guys.

If you get error

FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'iso 8859-13' for '/usr/share/X11/fonts/TTF/DejaVuSansMono.ttf'

or similar in your xerrs.log, open a console and type the following:

Code: Select all

cd /usr/share/fonts/default/TTF
mkfontscale
mkfontdir
fc-cache -r
rm -f /tmp/xerrs.log

and recycle (restart xwin from the black initial console).
Source: [url]file://localhost/usr/share/fonts/default/README.txt[/url]

Once back on desktop, open xerrs.log with more or less.
You'll see that the FreeType error is no longer there.

IHTH. BFN.

belham2 · #329 Post by **belham2** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 19:17

musher0 wrote:Hi belham2.

Very ugly screen capture above, very ugly! .

IHTH. BFN.

Awwweeee, Musher, that is so cruel to all the mango-luving, tequilla-drinking people everywhere. So, you're a northerner, into dark moods, and dark ways. Thus, this next one was created with you TOTALLY in mind, the Aurora-like mysterious hues with Canadian brilliant sky wisps of hints and sci-fi Tron aliased by neon, much like the burgeoning lights of Montreal (or Vancouver) in the distance of the forlorn Northerner's eye.

musher0 · #330 Post by **musher0** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 19:43

That's very kind of you, belham2!

Near the pole, on Ellesmere Island,
during winter, we Canadians never see the light of day!!! Just like in your
scrot!

~~~~~~~~~

Joke aside, I came back to report that the the autopoint utility is absent from
Stretch. Autopoint is a gettext companion, required to compile some sources.
Case in point, the new icewm being developed on github. You can get a
ready-made autopoint for DpupStretch from here:
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/autopoint

BFN.

belham2 · #331 Post by **belham2** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 20:01

musher0 wrote: Joke aside, I came back to report that the the autopoint utility is absent from
Stretch. Autopoint is a gettext companion, required to compile some sources.
Case in point, the new icewm being developed on github. You can get a
ready-made autopoint for DpupStretch from here:
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/autopoint

BFN.

Musher, autopoint wants 9mb for the install?! Are they kidding?? No way I am adding it to the built ISO. Is there any way and/or chance, since it is only used for compiling, it can just be added to the devx? Maybe that is what you meant and I am misunderstanding things.

Also, in your earlier message, I cannot find my Rox xerrs.log anywhere? Is it located in /var? I searched all thru there and couldn't find it, plus I used pfind and Searchmonkey searching the system, and it was nowhere to be found. I'm confused now, since you said it would be overflowing? Where's the darn thing hiding??

Thanks

#332 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 20:03

musher0 wrote:Hi guys.

If you get error
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'iso 8859-13' for '/usr/share/X11/fonts/TTF/DejaVuSansMono.ttf'
or similar in your xerrs.log, open a console and type the following:
Code: Select all
cd /usr/share/fonts/default/TTF
mkfontscale
mkfontdir
fc-cache -r
rm -f /tmp/xerrs.log
and recycle (restart xwin from the black initial console).
Source: [url]file://localhost/usr/share/fonts/default/README.txt[/url]

Once back on desktop, open xerrs.log with more or less.
You'll see that the FreeType error is no longer there.

IHTH. BFN.

Also if your using woofCE do as stated above ^^ and copy
/usr/share/fonts/default/TTF/fonts.dir
and
/usr/share/fonts/default/TTF/fonts.scale
and replace the same two files in woof-out_x86_x86_debian_stretch/rootfs-skeleton/usr/share/fonts/default/TTF/ directory so you don't have the same issue on your next build

ttuuxxx

belham2 · #333 Post by **belham2** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 20:24

ttuuxxx wrote: Also if your using woofCE do as stated above ^^ and copy
/usr/share/fonts/default/TTF/fonts.dir
and
/usr/share/fonts/default/TTF/fonts.scale
and replace the same two files in woof-out_x86_x86_debian_stretch/rootfs-skeleton/usr/share/fonts/default/TTF/ directory so you don't have the same issue on your next build
ttuuxxx

Thanks, ttuuxxx, will try this on a few build run throughs tomorrow morning. Calling it an evening, and hitting the sack. Trying to end on a good note, given's the days event with Nathan Wallpaper Setter just completely failing. The good ending is that I finally got DreamChess to install & work. Played a few speed games against the cpu just now, and got my butt, lol, kicked.

[Edit: replacing ugly chessboard to the mroe nice-looking, classical one]

#334 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 20:32

There is some doubling up on fonts if you look into the directory, I would move
DejaVuSerif-Bold
DejaVuSerif
DejaVuSansMono-Bold
from /woof-out_x86_x86_debian_stretch/packages-stretch/fontconfig/usr/share/fonts/truetype/
and place them into
/usr/share/fonts/default/TTF and in //woof-out_x86_x86_debian_stretch/rootfs-skeleton/usr/share/fonts/default
then I would delete the folder /woof-out_x86_x86_debian_stretch/packages-stretch/fontconfig/usr/share/fonts/truetype/dejavu
and run the commands and rebuild the database from above and copy the two files over
Then I would system link /usr/share/fonts/default/TTF and rename it to /usr/share/fonts/truetype
That would save around 1.2MB
ttuuxxx

musher0 · #335 Post by **musher0** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 20:55

Hi ttuuxxx.

I wouldn't air out the DejaVu fonts or any other like you want to do. The
reason is that DejaVu Italic TTF contains only the italic, DejaVu bold
contains only the bold style, and DejaVu BoldItalic contains only the bold
+italic style. And so on. In the GTK-Theme changer, we see them as one,
but DejaVu is made up of a series of TTF files, one for each weight or style
of the font. Same for Liberation, same for AkizaSans and many other
interesting fonts one writes with.

The only exceptions that I know of are some "programming" fonts, which
have only one style and weight, and that's it.

Also I wouldn't recommend re-uploading your font.dir etc., to your woof
template, if you've added any fonts in your pup. If you have done so, re-
upload the entire series of fonts too along with the indices. Otherwise,
you'll get errors in the finished product. like I did.

Besides it's simpler just to run BK's little script above!

IHTH. BFN.

~~~~~~~~~~~~
PS. If you mean that the Stretch Pup has DejaVu fonts in two places, at

/usr/share/fonts/truetype/dejavu

and at

/usr/share/fonts/default/TTF

that's something else. Indeed, why in two places?

I won't change that (link or remove) until someone gives me a good
reason, though. Maybe Xorg.conf has to look in the extra place?

musher0 · #336 Post by **musher0** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 21:01

belham2 wrote:
musher0 wrote: Joke aside, I came back to report that the the autopoint utility is absent from
Stretch. Autopoint is a gettext companion, required to compile some sources.
Case in point, the new icewm being developed on github. You can get a
ready-made autopoint for DpupStretch from here:
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/autopoint

BFN.
Musher, autopoint wants 9mb for the install?! Are they kidding?? No way I am adding it to the built ISO. Is there any way and/or chance, since it is only used for compiling, it can just be added to the devx? Maybe that is what you meant and I am misunderstanding things.

Not even that. I was just informing people where to find it if they need it.

belham2 wrote: Also, in your earlier message, I cannot find my Rox xerrs.log anywhere? Is it located in /var? I searched all thru there and couldn't find it, plus I used pfind and Searchmonkey searching the system, and it was nowhere to be found. I'm confused now, since you said it would be overflowing? Where's the darn thing hiding??

Thanks

-=> /tmp/xerrs.log <=-

BFN.

#337 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 21:21

musher0 wrote:Hi ttuuxxx.

I wouldn't air out the DejaVu fonts or any other like you want to do. The
reason is that DejaVu Italic TTF contains only the italic, DejaVu bold
contains only the bold style, and DejaVu BoldItalic contains only the bold
+italic style. And so on. In the GTK-Theme changer, we see them as one,
but DejaVu is made up of a series of TTF files, one for each weight or style
of the font. Same for Liberation, same for AkizaSans and many other
interesting fonts one writes with.

The only exceptions that I know of are some "programming" fonts, which
have only one style and weight, and that's it.

Also I wouldn't recommend re-uploading your font.dir etc., to your woof
template, if you've added any fonts in your pup. If you have done so, re-
upload the entire series of fonts too along with the indices. Otherwise,
you'll get errors in the finished product. like I did.

IHTH. BFN.

I just combined the two directories together and added a system link, I've been checking for errors and no so far, even the abiword you posted is working fine. Its the way we used to do it, I don't get why you would have the same fonts in two directories, something like 3 out of 6 or 7 weren't duplicates. I didn't add any new fonts, Just working with whats included.
If I get any errors, I'll revert back, so far so good.
ttuuxxx

musher0 · #338 Post by **musher0** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 21:25

Good to know, thanks for the feedback. Ciao.

~~~~~~~~
Edit 1 --
Just double-checked and they're not the same size. I better get a recent
copy from one of the major font sites. TWYL.

Edit 2 --
The most recent DejaVu fonts (2016-07-30) are here for the taking!
https://sourceforge.net/projects/dejavu ... p/download
There are 22 TTF files in that zip...

What I did is that I unpacked them in the dejavu directory, and symlinked
them to the main TTF directory.

Finally, if it can be of use:

Code: Select all

#!/bin/sh
# /usr/share/fonts/default/mkfont.sh
# Goal: sync your font indexes.
#####
cd /usr/share/fonts/default/TTF
mkfontscale
mkfontdir
fc-cache -r

BFN

musher0 · #339 Post by **musher0** » Sat 18 Mar 2017, 22:21

Hello all.

Has anyone noticed any weirdness in ROX-Filer's sizing behavior?

I click once on the root icon, /root opens with three columns.
I click a 2nd time on the root icon, /root opens with five columns.

Now, I specified in the settings that I only want one ROX panel per
directory. This ROX version is made of teflon, or what?

The 2nd time, ROX should only bring into focus the dir. that's already
open, not open another copy.

Someone has seen this behavior before? Do we have to go back to a
previous version of ROX?

Maybe this ROX was compiled by a Thunar fan! (hehe)

TIA for any pointers.

musher0 · #340 Post by **musher0** » Sun 19 Mar 2017, 03:27

Hello all.

I've made available a pet of the most recent DejaVu fonts, v. 2.37.
-- DejaVu-2.37.pet -- (Link good for 30 days since last download.)
Help yourselves!?

The tree of the archive is attached.

Enjoy!

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