My Criteria for Switching to (Puppy) Linux

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smokey01 · #21 Post by **smokey01** » Fri 11 May 2018, 08:17

@fman I agree with ozsouth. If however you don't know the IP address of your printer you can find it with nmap. nmap -sP 10.1.1.* Your local IP range might be different, maybe something like nmap -sP 192.168.0.*

type ifconfig in a terminal to discover your local IP. you should see something like inet addr:10.1.1.112 or maybe inet addr:192.168.0.1

Another way to connect it in CUPS is ipp://10.1.1.205 providing this is the output IP from the nmap command.
Your printer IP will likely be different to the one above. This is provided as an example only.

fmen · #22 Post by **fmen** » Fri 11 May 2018, 11:24

Thank you all for the input.

I have to admit it is getting a little confusing, so let me go back to the basics.

I do use the printer with Windows. The printer's ip address and printer name were indeed obtained while logged into Windows with the assumption that they would be the same as in Puppy.
I do not know how to get these parameters in linux. The nmap and ipconfig commands return an invalid command.

I have installed the linux Pantum driver, at least I think it was successful.
When I connect the printer to the computer while in linux, nothing happens, as it would while under linux.

So, in reality I am back to the beginning... to start:
How do I make certain the linux driver was successfully connected?
How do I get the printer's linux ip and name?

Thank you all.

Galbi · #23 Post by **Galbi** » Fri 11 May 2018, 11:42

First of all... The printer is connected to, what?
- the same computer that has Puppy? USB in that case?
- another computer of the net, running Windows?
- to a router (wire or wirelessly), so it has it's own ip?

Please, describe the situation.

fmen · #24 Post by **fmen** » Fri 11 May 2018, 12:47

Galbi wrote:First of all... The printer is connected to, what?
- the same computer that has Puppy? USB in that case?
- another computer of the net, running Windows?
- to a router (wire or wirelessly), so it has it's own ip?

Please, describe the situation.

The printer is connected via USB cable, to the computer (laptop) that dual boots Win 7 and Xenial Puppy.

While in Win 7, I can print while connected and wirelessly.

In Win 7,the IP wifi address is 191.168.0.1 and the printer's IP address is 191.168.0.19.

Galbi · #25 Post by **Galbi** » Fri 11 May 2018, 12:55

So, I'd try like a Local Printer (USB) ticking Serial in this screen

Galbi · #26 Post by **Galbi** » Fri 11 May 2018, 15:59

I don't have a wireless printer, so have no experience in this.

Perhaps is easier to set it up through wi-fi, this might help:
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/setup-wir ... ter-linux/

Saludos.

fmen · #27 Post by **fmen** » Sat 12 May 2018, 00:04

OK, great news! Now printing with USB cable. Next goal...through wifi and CUPS.

Mike Walsh · #28 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Sat 12 May 2018, 00:40

fmen wrote:OK, great news! Now printing with USB cable. Next goal...through wifi and CUPS.

Excellent news. Okay, it may not yet be working the way you'd like it to.....but it is at least working. That's the first step.

BTW, even with USB cable (& Samba? I'm getting a mite confused here), it'll still be working through CUPS too; that's how all Linux operating systems manipulate printing jobs.

I can still remember all the fun I myself had with this stuff when I first started with Linux (Ubuntu) nearly 5 years ago... It's enough to drive you nuts if you give in to it..!

Mike.

ozsouth · #29 Post by **ozsouth** » Sat 12 May 2018, 03:20

@fman - to print wirelessly, follow my earlier procedure - open print admin (127.0.0.1:631 in web browser, then choose Administration, then Add printer) choose AppSocket option, with connection details:- socket://192.168.0.19:9100 - then select printer model (sometimes must scroll down for continue icon).

fmen · #30 Post by **fmen** » Sat 12 May 2018, 09:31

You guys are awesome! I am now also able to print wirelessly! The final major criteria has been filled, eliminating any excuse to go back to windows. Thank you all.
BTW, to find the printer IP address in Puppy I used the Peasy Port Scanner app that comes installed with Puppy. It is a different address under windows.

Now on to the next challenge, finding a substitute scripting language for AutoIt.

This is exciting stuff, indeed!

tallboy · #31 Post by **tallboy** » Sat 12 May 2018, 21:53

It is now nearing the time when you sit down and contemplate, whispering to yourself, over and over again: "Why didn't I do this years ago?"

hamoudoudou · #32 Post by **hamoudoudou** » Mon 14 May 2018, 01:47

My Criteria for Switching to (Puppy) Linux
now how to switch from puppy x to Puppy y, soon z...

fmen · #33 Post by **fmen** » Mon 14 May 2018, 10:09

The question I have is, why didn’t someone tell me earlier about Puppy?

tallboy · #34 Post by **tallboy** » Mon 14 May 2018, 23:28

We have been shouting at the top our our voices, but you didn't hear us, because the Windows were closed!

8Geee · #35 Post by **8Geee** » Tue 15 May 2018, 03:07

My Criteria??? One word... Admin

Be Safe folks
8Geee

Puppyt · #36 Post by **Puppyt** » Wed 16 May 2018, 10:24

fmen wrote:The question I have is, why didn’t someone tell me earlier about Puppy?

When I made *my* leap from Windows into the Puppyverse, I reckon my questions were: "HOW is all this freedom even legal? WHY am I getting all this cool software for free - with minimal* concerns about security?" Well security isn't a complete given - there are risks still (i.e, Java, browsers, meltdown etc discussed elsewhere). But the biggest buzz is from spending a little time learning the ropes and being prepared to *keep on* learning - you seem to be well on the path fmen, congratulations! You're the boss now - not some sheep...

fmen · #37 Post by **fmen** » Wed 16 May 2018, 16:54

Switching to a new OS after 20+ years of Windows is a bit of a challenge. And that's what actually attracted me to the enterprise. There is a great satisfaction to solving puzzles. Having a terrific forum like this one adds to the enjoyment.

In a relatively short amount of time, I have pretty well checked off the majority of my criteria. I've managed to shrink the desktop icons to my specifications, configured the tray menu with shortcuts for Chromium, Shutdown and Restart etc.
Learning a new scripting language is the only real challenge left. Mikeslr sent me some terrific suggestions which I plan on thoroughly investigating.

Thanks for the encouragement and help. This is loads of fun.

tallboy · #38 Post by **tallboy** » Sat 19 May 2018, 17:19

We're happy when you're happy!

Glad to have you on board!
All parts of Linux are just a collection of text files, which can be edited. Just realizing that any user can modify absolutely everything in a Linux distro, without restrictions, must be something of an eyeopener to a dedicated Windows user.
My suggestion for getting some insight into a scripting language, is Bash. It can be used in any Linux, and is used extensively in every part of the OS. Both basic and advanced instructions are published at http://tldp.org. It takes only minutes to make a little script that takes care of all your normal tasks after booting your Puppy. I also suggest that you try to get an overview of the possibilities that the normal Linux commands can give you, even if the commands in Busybox - used in most Puppys - are somewhat limited. Things like a fifo don't even exist in Windoze...

Funny, Windows 10 now introduces Bash...

fmen · #39 Post by **fmen** » Sat 19 May 2018, 18:37

Yup, already on bash. In conjunction with xdotool and easygestures, should be able to automate Puppy to my heart's content.

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