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Posted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 08:17
by charlie6
Hi shinobar,
I first have thought alsamixer not present in lupq-50X as its entry is not present in Menu/Multimedia/Multimedia/xxx (as it is the case on quite all puppies).
Nevertheless it is present in lupq and can be started doing in a console:

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#alsamixer
Would it be interesting to add the entry "Alsamixer" in the menu in next lupq version, wouldn'it?
Merci d'avance, Charlie

alsamixer in menu

Posted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 08:25
by shinobar
charlie6 wrote:It can be starting doing in a console:

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#alsamixer
C'est ça.

Don't the Retrovol do all of what alsamixer does?
…Oops. Also Retrovol is not in the menu :lol:

You can right-click the speaker icon on the tray(bottom of the desktop) and select 'Full Window'.
But i think we need on the main menu too.

lupq509

Posted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 13:01
by L18L
Bonjour shinobar,

having tried to post from lupq509 pfix=ram,
set locale, installed langpack :D
but posting let midori freeze (98% CPU)
I know, midori bug is another topic, but let it be the default browser?
No :roll:

Other thought:
Is it possible to install available langpack automagically after countrywizard?
Would be really another great thing made by shinobar :idea:

Cheers

Re: lupq509

Posted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 13:19
by shinobar
Hi, L18L.

Midori is yes problematic.
L18L wrote:Is it possible to install available langpack automagically after countrywizard?
Nice idea. Technically, yes.
The .iso file may be 200MB or so.
I like to try such a version after this release finalized.

Posted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 13:45
by yordanj94
You can test with LupQ-509 + rc_sysinit-20100916 + rp-ppoe-fix-20100919-1.pet.
Hi Shinobar.
Sorry i was late with my answer but i needed some time .
It worked Shinobar !!! It worked.
All the ways .
I tested first without reboot then rebooted and still could get connected.

rp-pppoe

Posted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 14:36
by shinobar
yordanj94 wrote:It worked Shinobar !!! It worked.
All the ways .
I tested first without reboot then rebooted and still could get connected.
WOW!!! :D
OK, the final release will contain this fix.
Thanks so much, yordan.

Re: lupq509

Posted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 06:59
by charlie6
Ohayo gozaimasu shinobar !
Guten Morgen L18L !
L18L wrote:...
but posting let midori freeze (98% CPU)
I know, midori bug is another topic, but let it be the default browser?...
I got te same problem with midori. (see post here)
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... &start=120
I do not use it anymore for posting. Midori is used just for html viewing or Cups configuration.
There are other tiny browsers like Dillo or PuppyBrowser (do not know much about them).
(have used Dillo in another puppy: poor graphic rendering but worked OK excepted when downloading: problem filling the save dialog box and could not get any download)

Ja mata.
Bis später.
Cheers, Charlie

Posted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 08:39
by L18L
Ohayo gozaimasu shinobar (japanese in latin legable in common :?: )
Guten Morgen charlie6 (googled or wellknown language :?: )
charlie6 wrote
I do not use it anymore for posting.
Nor do I.
(Now posting in good old seamonkey, puppy 431)
But I think, Quickset Edition must be able able to be used by newbees
without the need to select another browser.
I have used lupq509 in lang=de_DE.UTF-8, so it seems to me that the problem of the squeezed build of midori is not a special locale but utf8 in general.

midori as defaultbrowser

Posted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 09:39
by shinobar
Ciao charlie and L18L.
L18L wrote:But I think, Quickset Edition must be able able to be used by newbees
without the need to select another browser.
One thought, how about to remove midori frome the menu(/usr/share/applications/midori.desktop).
Then midori does not appear in the 'Choose Default Browser', though may need additional modification of the Quickpet.
I think it makes sense regarding 'a choice in browsers' is a feature of Lucid Puppy.

mmm... :cry:

Posted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 10:59
by nooby
shinobar ,

I did start a new thread to not clutter up this one but failed to get help.

Hope it is okay if I ask here?

I've fail to set it up so it remember how to keep the connection at start up.

When I use Quirky it uses SNS and it always start up connecting to internet and remember this to next boot up.

In LupQ I have to go to set up and network and find no SNS there.

It has lost memory of the set up next time me boot in so have to start all over again. Very annoying and time consuming just for to check a mail.

Network setup lost

Posted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 12:50
by shinobar
nooby wrote:It has lost memory of the set up next time me boot in so have to start all over again.
What are you using for the connection? Wired or Wireless?
The settings of the Network Wizard shall be saved under /etc/network-wizard. They may be 'xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx.conf' at the subsidiary directories, network, wireless, interfaces, profiles, and so on.
Are they there?
If you loose the connection, what happens when right-click the 'connect' icon on the desktop and select 'Autoconnect'?

Re: Network setup lost

Posted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 13:39
by shinobar
Hmm... Seeing your another post, no problem with LupQ-506 or 508 but update to 509 has the trouble, right, nooby?
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60046

Were you using SNS wtih LupQ-506?
SNS is removed from 507 release.
Remove the old settings of SNS from /etc/simple_network_setup.
And run the Network Wizard and save the settings.

EDIT:
Ensure /usr/local/bin/defaultconnect does not direct sns.
Run the 'Internet Connection Wizard' from the main menu, check the 'Desktop/tray', choose 'Network Wizard' or 'Internet Connection Wizard'.

Posted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 13:40
by nooby
Oh

Edit.

You are the Champion. this must be the reason
Were you using SNS wtih LupQ-506?
SNS is removed from 507 release.
Remove the old settings of SNS from /etc/simple_network_setup.
And run the Network Wizard and save the settings.
Yes me had 506 and updated to 508 and then 509 and most likely did not remember about the connection thing. Using Quirky instead.

But now I want to use LupQ instead.

So I do as you suggest. I deleted the sns folder but

#!/bin/sh
exec sns

And deleted sns there in that defaultconnect.

But what should be there instead? Something pointing to autoconnect maybe?

Posted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 14:10
by shinobar
nooby wrote:#!/bin/sh
exec sns

And deleted sns there in that defaultconnect.

But what should be there instead? Something pointing to autoconnect maybe?
See my above post, EDIT:...
Run the 'Internet Connection Wizard' from the main menu...

Posted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 14:22
by nooby
Yes finally it did work. I rebooted and it still worked when I clicked on the email and it downloaed emails and clicking to this thread.

So a big Thank you very much for all this detailed help.

Hopefully others also can be helped if the find this thread.

What worry me now is that my ISP will throw me out each 30 minutes.

But most likely me can just autoconnect each time.

Why did SNS disappear then. It was my rescue last time me lost connection each 30 minutes. Very annoying to lost it when one look at a streaming TV or radio.
Hopefully it works though.

lost connection

Posted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 14:43
by shinobar
nooby wrote:What worry me now is that my ISP will throw me out each 30 minutes.
But most likely me can just autoconnect each time.
Thanks nooby to infome me. I was not aware of such an ISP.
I was wondering why Pwireless2 (and SNS too?) rerun the dhcpcd with some interval.
It is annoying for the people who are using continuous connection.
Think the Network Wizard need to have such function as an option.
But i am not sure what happens for each strategy.

Posted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 14:47
by nooby
I will tell here if I lose connection. Then I go back and use Quirky as my main puppy and use LupQ if I need some Ubuntu music Studio or such when I feel for music.

Edit: Works good so far.

PPM bug with furugal install on flash

Posted: Wed 22 Sep 2010, 05:59
by shinobar
Puppy Package Manager(PPM) of recent woof has 2 big problem with furugal install on flash.

PROBLEM
Assume furugal install with pupsave on flash device, using recent PPM.
  1. Install, say somepackege-1.0.pet, unistall it, then again install the same package or the same package updated, say somepackage-1.1.pet .
    The files somepackage must recover in most case.
    But recent PPM with frugal install, the PPM shows no error but the files disappear.
    In case uninstall, then reboot PC, and re-install the package, the files recover with no problem.
  2. Installing some packages which has files under '/mnt/home', the PPM shows no error but the files under '/mnt/home' disappear.

REASON
There is a bug at the code add on 26 Apr 2010 and later, for boot from flash, bypass tmpfs top layer, install direct to pup_save file.

SOLUTION
Attached /usr/local/petget/installpkg.sh bugfixed.
It is for next release on LupQ(-510), but may work on any Puppies 4.x/5.x.
Note: the encounter measure for the problem 2, is already implemented in the LupQ-509.
Bugfix against the problem 1 is the new code from the LupQ-509.

Posted: Wed 22 Sep 2010, 17:53
by nooby
I tried to find the answer using the wellminded search but failed due to me have no idea how to chose right key words.

I try to play .rm and .ram files. I guess that is RealAudioMedia or maybe RealMovie? for .rm?

I tried to play them using the built in GNOME Mplayer but it fails.

For Lucid Puppy which player are supposed to play these files?

All else seems to work very good. Okay I have not dared to start spotify yet.

RealMedia

Posted: Thu 23 Sep 2010, 03:29
by shinobar
nooby wrote:I try to play .rm and .ram files. I guess that is RealAudioMedia or maybe RealMovie? for .rm?
I don't know the detail of the RealMedia and where can i get the sample movie.
It depends on the version of the RealMedia created.
I have some .rm video files i created some years ago and it plays with the defaultmediaplayer(GNOME Mplayer) on LupQ with no problem.

Many media players available for Lupu/LupQ. I am not sure which plays which type of files.
Here is a new version of FFmpeg with FFplay and FFconvert for LupQ.