Quirky 005 Feedback

[BarryK]

Had to change to the internal sound card using the ALSA sound wizard (I also have a PCI sound card that I am not connected to)

Clicked on BBC news that plays OK in browser
ASF - no
mp4 - no full screen, no sound, small pics looks good
wmv - small image, no sound, no full screen
vob - small image, no sound no full screen

Regarding sound, the Adobe Flash plugin plays the BBC news.
The other files are being played by mplayer -- it seems that mplayer is not configured properly to output to your sound card -- maybe it's outputing to the wrong sound hardware.

[panzerpuppy]

I've installed the MESA 7.6 .tar.gz package from the T2 repository, but it's not complete. It also needs the 'freeglut3' and 'mesa-demos' packages to get fully working OpenGL.

Now this is weird: PPM shows 'sysfiles-0000' as a dependency for the 'mesa 7.6' package.

Puppy testers beware! Installing 'sysfiles-0000' will mess up your Puppy installation. Stay away from that package - DON'T click on it

The latest stable version of mesa at the moment is 7.7 and 7.8 is just about to be released (the T2 mesa package is a bit old)

UPDATE: I downloaded the 'freeglut3' and 'mesa-demos' .tar.gz packages: glxinfo works now (DRI rendering enabled), but glxgears crashes with the following error message:

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# glxgears
drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22. Kernel failed to parse or rejected command stream. See dmesg for more info.

Looks like we need the latest MESA from GIT to get basic OpenGL support for ATI (Radeon) cards with Xorg 7.5

[aarf]

Does this mean that q5 is better than both q3 and q4?

Pardon if I am very naive asking such question.

I have tested Q3 and that one worked rather well.
so if Q5 is better then that is very interesting.

are Q5 better than Puppeee 4.3.1? .

yes this is a very naive question. the name of the game is bandwidth burning. which ever linux distribution burns the most bandwidth wins the race. Barry is aiming for another bandwidth citation from the bandwidth police to add to his extensive collection, he along with other notable names in the linux family have major investment in shares in bandwidth related companies. just dont go asking these silly questions again or pizzaisgod will be ban you from murga-linux or what's worse he will relentlessly and heartlessly change your most cherished avatar. you have been warned.

[bigpup]

Quirky Is A Test Operating System.

Quirky is a TEST of new ways of doing things.
Each version is not an improvement of the last, but a different direction to take, with Puppy Linux.

USE IT ONLY TO HELP Barry Try New Ideas and Think Out Of The Box!!

Your feedback will let him know if he is going in the right direction.

[James C]

I did a frugal install of Quirky 005 on my P3 test box. PupRadio/PupTelly works fine, will play full screen with no problems.

I played wmv,flv and mp4 files in Mplayer, including fullscreen with no problems. Sound appears to be working correctly as well.

All settings were remembered on reboots so no real problems here yet.....

[daftdog]

Touchpad settings not working (liveCD, acer laptop, 2 years old).
Changed Tap setting in xorg.conf not working. Also touchpad scrolling not working (horiz and vert). These usually work in other Puppies.

[BarryK]

Hi

I had no probs with mplayer in pupRadio/Telly.

BTW Barry, it's up to version 0.5 now. (pupRadio)

I have upgraded the PET package, so the next build of Quirky will have 0.5.

Note, as this will be a Quirky-specific package, and I seem to have settled on mplayer, I set the default in pupRadio to mplayer.
-- of course, you could have code that looks to see what is present and automatically chooses a default.

[BarryK]

Now this is weird: PPM shows 'sysfiles-0000' as a dependency for the 'mesa 7.6' package.

Puppy testers beware! Installing 'sysfiles-0000' will screw up your Puppy installation. Stay away from that package - DON'T click on it

Hmmm, the 'sysfiles' dependency wasn't supposed to show. I thought that I had fixed PPM to ignore that dependency, as Puppy already has the equivalent functionality. Ok, I'll take another look at it.

[aarf]

WARNING WARNING WARING
QUIRKY HAS MOUNTED. QUIRKY HAS MOUNTED.
COUNT DOWN TO TAKE OFF WILL COMMENCE IN T- MINUS 3 HOURS.
ALL PERSONNEL TO DON SAFETY APPARATUS AND PROCEED IMMEDIATELY TO LAUNCH STATIONS .

[upnorth]

I just did frugal install, added htop, conky, dillo. When desktop appears, I'm only using 26meg res memory. Pretty impressive. I've got 256meg ram with 466mhz. Everything is pretty snappy.

I pasted the France24 mms stream url in pupradio/puptelly and it played well at full screen. I played a flash video in seamonkey and everthing worked well there too.

Great Work!

[esmourguit]

Bonjour à tous,

Just for information, in remasterpup2, it seems that the amount of free space does not appear.
Picture attached.

Cordialement

[Lobster]

Quirky 005 also has the 'nouveau' driver, that you should test. It didn't work for me. I do hope to have more success with the nouveau driver when I upgrade to the 2.6.33 kernel.

Tried nv and nouveau again - no luck - only vesa worked
The last nvidia driver that worked for me (in 4.2 Puppy)
was this rather obscure one
NVIDIA-177.82-k2.6.25.16.pet
It did not work in Puppy 4.3.1

[01micko]

Installed Q 005 as frugal on the wife's Compaq evo box, p4 1.8, 1gig ram, intel 64M graphics. Ok so far.

One problem, and this I experienced on different hardware but with the same model wireless usb dongle... (TP link, TL-WN321G.. ralink chipset), in all quirky's so far.

Proceeded with the network wizard, scanned network, entered essid and wep key, then it runs a test, the test takes too long indicating failure. Sure enough, no network. Tried again, same result. I ended up doing the same as I did with Q 003 and installed the latest Pwireless2 and I had no problems, straight online.

I have had no problems with the current Network Wizard in any other puppy.

[panzerpuppy]

Another bug in Quirky-005

From xerrs.log and Xorg.0.log:

(WW) Warning, couldn't load module 'xtrap'
(EE) Failed to load module 'xtrap' - module does not exist

[tronkel]

Problems with WLAN in Quirky 005.

Neither my Intel Classmate (original version), nor my WLAN Ralink USB card dongle will go online. The Asus eeepc which uses an ath5k module also will not connect.

The Ralink WLAN card in the Classmate, the stand-alone dongle plugged into the PC (both needing rt73usb) as well as the ath5k card in the Asus are all visible as wlan0. GPRS mobile broadband on the Asus eeepc 901 works OK though via the built-in Huawei 620 modem.

There therefore seems to be an encryption library(s) missing. Puppy 431 stable connects no problem.

I think there might be a link to (or a dotpet of) the relevant libraries available somewhere in the forum. Will have a look and get back if I find them.

[shinobar]

remasterpup2, it seems that the amount of free space does not appear.

merci esmourguit.
you can find the latest version, remasterpup2-100120.pet from here

it has Joliet option and backward compatibility with non-woof puppy 4.x, and merged with barry's latest update.
P.S. the transration( .mo file) to be modified.

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#v431JP mkisofs with Joliet option, volume id, what copied from cd, remove slmodems
#v431JP error message for full install
#091212 weird bug, no processes but when run this, x restarts...
# 28dec09 remove /modules/${KERNELVER}/modules.*
#100117 save user-modified rox globicons file.
# 20jan10 Puppy v4.x(before woof) backword compatibility

[shinobar]

- pmount quickly closes the optical drive tray after ejecting a CD / DVD. This is annoying and *DANGEROUS*.
There's no such problem when ejecting the CD via ROX-Filer.
This is a long-standing bug of Puppy and must be fixed ASAP.

The 431JP has improved codes on /usr/sbin/pmount and on /usr/local/bin/drive_all.
they also have modified code on vfat and iso9660 mount options.

[JustGreg]

Quirky 005 works well on both my computers. The wireless networking works normally on my desktop using a USB doogle. It needs the RT73usb modulle. My wireless network uses WPA2 encryption with out any problems. All the need encryption modules are present.

The 2goPC (second generation Classmate) uses the RT73USB module. It works with a script that I have for the wireless network. I did find that Pwirless would not see the wireless network. I did try using crtl F1 to turn on/off/on the wireless device. I did find the connection wizard did see the network. Trying my script I was able to make a connection to the WPA2 network. I hope this helps. I will try a few more times to see if I can see/ repeat any problems.

I saw a YouTube video with out any problems (other than slow connection). I also listen to a podcast. Both work with a hitch. Quirky is progressing nicely.

[tronkel]

More progress with WLAN

I tried configuring wlan0 this time using pWireless. This worked OK
on the PC, Classmate PC as well as on the Asus eeepc901 netbook.

I then went back to the Quirky network wizard and then found that I could connect to wifi via that method as well.

PWireless must have therefore configured something correctly that the normal Quirky network manager wizard could not - so doesn't then appear to have anything to do with WEP encryption after all (or?).

Since I have never had to use pWireless to connect up to wifi in the past, I'll have to have a further look around to learn how pWireless configures itself.

[JustGreg]

Tronkel, I did a few more wireless experiments with both the Classmate and Pc2Go (same wireless hardware).

I am using quirky005 on 128 Megabyte USB flash dreive. It was installed using Boot Flash Install utility. The wireless script that I use to connect ito my WPA2 network s a version of Tempestuous one.

With the 2goPC after boot, I checked with the console command iwconfig. The only network listed was the loop back one. Using iwconfig wlan0, did show the wireless device was there, but not up. I checking with console command iwlist wlan0 scanning and it confirmed the network was down. I used my wifi-up script and connected to the network with out a problem. I checked Google to ensure the connection was good. I was able to view and hear a Google youtube video.

I rebooted the 2goPC to start from the initial state of no wireless. Using iwllist wlan0 scanning did confirm the network was down. The console command ifconfig wlan0 up was used to bring the wlan0 network up. After, iwlist wlan0 scanning did report the correct information on the wireless network. Pwireless also worked.

With the Classmate, I only did the second test. After boot, iwlist reported the wlan0 down. After using iwcofnig wlan0 up to start up the network, everything connected and worked.

The problem seem to be the wireless network needs to be started up either with console command or a script after booting up.

In the past with Puppy 4.30 and the 2goPc, I have run into a problem where the wireless device was not powered after boot up. I had to use the crtl F1 keys to ensure it was turned on. The LED was lighted after boot., a bit strange. Quirky005 seems to be very good for my netbook. I will probably go to it for the 2GoPC once Barry releases a final version.

I hope this helps.