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Posted: Mon 05 Jul 2010, 06:06
by wuwei
Nouveau driver works very well, almost "out of the box" on nVidia GF 6200.
pppoe-start does not work. Couldn't get it to start, neither with fixed nor with dynamic DNS. This is usually no problem, e.g. in Quirky 1.2.
Posted: Mon 05 Jul 2010, 12:04
by JustGreg
I tried Slackpup 0.3 out. I found the nv driver worked the best with Nvidia Ion Chipset (also id as MCP79 Board -hornet-0 Chip Rev). It went into 1360 by 768 resolution with no problems and a nice clean display.
The nouveau driver also worked but with a problem. The screen goes to 1360 by 768 resolution. Small color bars appear and stay on the screen as applications are open and closed.
I have also got Nvidia 256.35 version official driver to work with Spup 020. However, I have not been able to make a pet that works. xorgwizard keeps picking nouveau, even if nvidia has been specified.
Posted: Mon 05 Jul 2010, 18:48
by rjbrewer
It does 1280 x 800 or 1024 x 768 Xorg , and 1024 x 768 Vesa fine.
Also will run the 4.3x Vlc-lite .pet that I prefer (as does Fluppy).
A weird little crash: The Google 4th of July animation turned to
black and once caused a freeze of window.
Posted: Tue 06 Jul 2010, 08:37
by gjuhasz
wuwei wrote:Nouveau driver works very well, almost "out of the box" on nVidia GF 6200.
JustGreg wrote:I have also got Nvidia 256.35 version official driver to work with Spup 020. However, (...) xorgwizard keeps picking nouveau, even if nvidia has been specified.
Force X to use vesa. Then blacklist both nv and nouveau. Then install the proprietary nvidia driver.
JustGreg, I am eager to see how my nvidia gf 6200 card works with your nvidia pet. I can play with this tomorrow.
(To tell the truth, I am not sure which version is the best one for spup... I will begin with nvidia_lucid-195.36.24-k2.6.33.2-p5.pet but will give a chance to CatDude's NVIDIA-173.14.25-k2.6.33.2-1.pet, too. I see both supports my card but spup's kernel is different. Is there an nvidia pet compiled for 2.6.34?)
Posted: Tue 06 Jul 2010, 11:45
by Ray MK
Hi
Just to let you know Spup030 seems to work well on my Acer Travelmate 243LC - with one exception - can't get touchpad tapping to work.
Tried all the usual options including mouse setup and editing taptime in Xorg.conf - but no go.
Otherwise very nice.
JFYI - Wary030 just works extremely well on this machine - I use it most of the time now.
Looking forward to the next Spup with the later kernel and all the BK fixes, when it becomes available.
As always - many thanks for this and very best regards - Ray
Posted: Tue 06 Jul 2010, 12:26
by ICPUG
Ray MK
I had this touchpad problem with the latest Lighthouse Pup too. My xorg.conf looks right - maxtaptime=220 - but it doesn't work.
Don't know solution yet but I am going to check this, which DaveS found solved another touchpad problem with Lucid puppy.
Quote:
Major problems with touchpad in Luci and Quirky, but NOT Qret. Enabling the touchpad creates a hidden file in root .flSynclient which contains the settings user specified via the setup process. In Quirky and Luci it contains a line by default:
ClickFinger3 =2
Change this to:
ClickFinger3 =1
And everything works perfectly. Cant seem to set this via the GUI though. Bug? Non-user settable?
Warning.... If you change anything via the GUI, it resets automatically to value '2' again.
endquote
Posted: Tue 06 Jul 2010, 12:55
by JustGreg
For gjuhasz,
You will have to wait a bit. Slackpup uses a newer kernel (2.6.34). The pets that CatDude and I made are for the Lucid kernel (2.6.33.2). They will probably not work.
I have started on the Nvidia 256.35 pet for Slackpup. The life has gotten busy for me. I should have it ready next week around Tuesday. I will be away from the computer for most of the week with my bride of thirty-seven years.
Posted: Wed 07 Jul 2010, 01:16
by BarryK
JustGreg wrote:I will be away from the computer for most of the week with my bride of thirty-seven years.
Have fun!
Posted: Wed 07 Jul 2010, 01:36
by edoc
Just loaded it on my Panasonic Toughbook CF-29 and it is working well.
No problems with the video driver or the Wifi.
I did update Flash so that some difficult sites would render correctly.
Otherwise so far so good!
EDIT
Sorry to report a problem ...
When I tried Menu-System-Pprocess it froze the keyboard and mouse - it required a CTRL-Backspace to get a prompt and then "xwin" restored the desktop.
Good news ... Barry's Simple Network Setup appears to be remembering the connection (not the case in Wary 030 and Lucid 501 on this laptop).
Posted: Wed 07 Jul 2010, 11:29
by BarryK
wuwei wrote:Nouveau driver works very well, almost "out of the box" on nVidia GF 6200.
pppoe-start does not work. Couldn't get it to start, neither with fixed nor with dynamic DNS. This is usually no problem, e.g. in Quirky 1.2.
wuwei,
Would you please try this:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01701
Posted: Wed 07 Jul 2010, 17:41
by wuwei
Hello Barry,
I did try, unfortunately unsuccessfully.
Here is what I did:
Loaded a fresh spup with pfix=ram from a subdirectory on my Puppy partition. Nouveau driver again worked fine with GeForce 6200 LE.
Then I tried the 4 steps from your post here
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01701
# modprobe pppoe in terminal did not respond.
According to this
http://www.lampdocs.com/home-personal/pppoe-connection/
one would now "need to create a kernel module". This is a bit over my head, at least without spending a lot of time. Guess the entire procedure was now impossible to continue. Still I tried #2 and #3 on your list.
When I got to #4
# pppd call myprov
this was the output
# pppd call myprov
pppd: error while loading shared libraries: libpcap.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
# whereis pppd
bash: whereis: command not found
#
libpcap.so.1 is not in spup.
Sorry, this is as far as I got tonight.
Off to watch the soccer semi finals, now.
Posted: Wed 07 Jul 2010, 18:01
by edoc
I had high hopes that a fresh install of SPUP 030 would finally fix the CUPS problem.
CUPS in SPUP 030 cannot handle an Add Printer request.
It cannot find localhost:631 - it generates a "404 Not Found"
Very weird ... Any suggestions, please?
EDIT
I just read some more and have discovered that the CUPS problem may be a carry-forward unresolved problem from SPUP 020.
I even tried upgrading via Puppy Package Manager to CUPS 1.4.3 -- but no joy.
EDIT2
I went back to Wary 030, remembering that I had fixed the shortage of HDD space, and tried CUPS and it worked!
I noticed that CUPS popped up a Username/Password window - it did not do that in SPUP 030 - is it possible that the CUPS failure in SPUP 030 (and 020 before that) is due to a problem with the login to localhost:631?
EDIT3
Here are three proposed solutions to a CUPS localhost:631 failure which may lead to a solution under SPUP:
Try /etc/rc.d/rc.cups start
Check /usr/local/etc/pam.d/cups -- change it to use pam_unix rather than
pam_unknown. (pam_unknown is, errr..., unknown on FreeBSD...)
Like this:
auth required pam_unix.so nodelay
account required pam_unix.so
EDIT4
THIS opens up the CUPS Administration page:
https://localhost:631/admin
Of course one must plow through a BUNCH of security pop-ups whining about Certificates, etc.
Does the fact that this appears to bypass the 404 ERROR help to ID the problem with CUPS in SPUP 030?
On further investigation while CUPS in Wary 030 will communicate with my HP LaserJet P1006 printer using the fooxxx_r220909-0.0-i486.pet this one will not.
I will try the proprietary HP driver but it seems that if fooxxx_r220909-0.0-i486.pet is effective in CUPS under Wary 030 then it should also be under SPUP 030.
I hate to clutter things with too much probably-conflicting CUPS junk!
EDIT5
I could find no combination of hplite versions and fooxxx_r220909-0.0-i486.pet and etc. that even within the
https://localhost:631/admin workaround would result in the ability to use my HP Laserjet P1006 printer.
It is working fine in Wary 030 with just fooxxx_r220909-0.0-i486.pet
Sure would like to be able to use SPUP!
SOLVED!
Upgraded to SPUP 040. Thanks Barry!
Posted: Thu 08 Jul 2010, 06:37
by BarryK
wuwei wrote:Hello Barry,
I did try, unfortunately unsuccessfully.
Here is what I did:
Loaded a fresh spup with pfix=ram from a subdirectory on my Puppy partition. Nouveau driver again worked fine with GeForce 6200 LE.
Then I tried the 4 steps from your post here
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01701
# modprobe pppoe in terminal did not respond.
According to this
http://www.lampdocs.com/home-personal/pppoe-connection/
one would now "need to create a kernel module". This is a bit over my head, at least without spending a lot of time. Guess the entire procedure was now impossible to continue. Still I tried #2 and #3 on your list.
When I got to #4
# pppd call myprov
this was the output
# pppd call myprov
pppd: error while loading shared libraries: libpcap.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
# whereis pppd
bash: whereis: command not found
#
libpcap.so.1 is not in spup.
Sorry, this is as far as I got tonight.
Off to watch the soccer semi finals, now.
The pppoe kernel module exists:
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# modinfo pppoe
filename: /lib/modules/2.6.34/kernel/drivers/net/pppoe.ko
alias: net-pf-24
license: GPL
description: PPP over Ethernet driver
author: Michal Ostrowski <mostrows@speakeasy.net>
depends: pppox,ppp_generic
vermagic: 2.6.34 mod_unload 486
#
So, load it:
...it is now loaded. So, Step 1 works ok.
As for pppd:
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# which pppd
/usr/sbin/pppd
# ldd /usr/sbin/pppd
linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000)
libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0xb76c7000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb76c3000)
libpcap.so.1 => not found
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7554000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb76fb000)
#
Ah, that would also explain why someone reported that dialup with a modem does not work! pppd is broken!
SOLUTION:
Need Internet connection, run Puppy Package Manager, install package 'tcpdump' from the official Slackware repository.
Then you will have libpcap.so.1.
Then you will probably find the the previous pppoe-start works, but I would appreciate if you can test the method I posted also, see if that works.
Thanks for the feedback.
Posted: Thu 08 Jul 2010, 16:02
by edoc
I am having an interesting time talking to myself about the CUPS problem in SPUP 030 but it is getting boring.
Has CUPS been abandoned in SPUP?
I know that Barry has elsewhere expressed frustration at CUPS being a chronic nuisance - and I agree for sure!
It would be helpful to flag the lack of CUPS before one downloads, installs, and wastes time fighting to get it working in SPUP if it is both a lost-cause and a non-goal for the development of SPUP.
If CUPS is being abandoned is there a pending-alternative to CUPS planned for SPUP?
Posted: Thu 08 Jul 2010, 19:08
by edoc
Great news!
When he returns to the keyboard I presume there will be a .PET or some other means to upgrade our SPUP 030 installs.
Thanks Barry!
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01707
Posted on 9 Jul 2010, 2:04 by BarryK
Printing works
Finally got printing working!
It took awhile, I had to fix foomatic-filters and ghostscript packages.
Local time is after 1.00am, time for a cup of green tea, wind-down the mind for awhile, then bed.
Posted: Thu 08 Jul 2010, 23:50
by 01micko
Hmmmm......
libiw.so.29
seems to be missing from spup. It must have gotten lost in the woof translation... it's weird because my wireless is working ok, and the header file is in the devx.. libiw.a.
I installed one from Quirky 1.2 but that of course is not satisfactory.
I went in to /initrd/pup_ro2/usr/lib and did "ls|grep lib" which basically gives me a list of all libs in /usr/lib as they are in the original iso. I did this
after a search.
Here's an extract of the out put:
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libiptc.so.0.0.0
libiso9660.so
libiso9660++.so
libiso9660++.so.0
libiso9660++.so.0.0.0
libiso9660.so.5
libiso9660.so.5.1.0
libiso9660.so.7
libjasper.so
libjasper.so.1
libjasper.so.1.0.0
libjpeg.so
libjpeg.so.62
libjpeg.so.62.0.0
No libiw.*
I took the liberty to compile wireless-tools in spup.
Attached is a tarball containing the sources, the lib and tools, the headers and the docs. The whole lot is only 538k.
I compiled like this:
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make clean
make PREFIX=/usr BUILD_STATIC=y
new2dir make install
I then just tarred up the lot.
Thank you aarf for finding this problem.
Cheers
Posted: Fri 09 Jul 2010, 02:06
by BarryK
I have been fixing bugs in Spup 0.3, quite significant ones.
So, for any newcomers reading this, don't download Spup 0.3, as I will upload 0.4 in a couple of days.
Posted: Fri 09 Jul 2010, 04:12
by aarf
01micko wrote:
I then just tarred up the lot.
Thank you aarf for finding this problem.
Cheers
i am innocent. it wasn't me. it is all misunderstanding. it was micko he did it, i saw him.
Posted: Fri 09 Jul 2010, 04:34
by edoc
BarryK wrote:I have been fixing bugs in Spup 0.3, quite significant ones.
So, for any newcomers reading this, don't download Spup 0.3, as I will upload 0.4 in a couple of days.
In my experience so far it is as solid as any of the others.
Other than CUPS and modems ...
Standing by for 040 ...
Posted: Sat 10 Jul 2010, 02:19
by BarryK