Woof CE Debian Stretch and Devuan Ascii Based Development

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#416 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 22 Mar 2017, 10:40

Next release is up,

http://smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/WoofCe/stretch-7.0.0a1.iso <-- Iso
3d99450da65bde06c88e35133b05e1ab stretch-7.0.0a1.iso

http://smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/WoofCe/devx ... .0.0a1.sfs <-- devx
3e7b37570ce8de8ca8fd1a5b217a427b devx_stretch_7.0.0a1.sfs
ttuuxxx

zigbert · #417 Post by **zigbert** » Wed 22 Mar 2017, 13:30

ttuuxxx
Tested briefly you latest build - looks good !

gtkdialog is a bit old, so some advanced options fail (like tree-headers in pMusic). Please update to gtkdialog 0.8.4

Thank you for your effort
Sigmund

musher0 · #418 Post by **musher0** » Wed 22 Mar 2017, 13:51

ttuuxxx wrote:Next release is up,
http://smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/WoofCe/stretch-7.0.0a1.iso <-- Iso
3d99450da65bde06c88e35133b05e1ab stretch-7.0.0a1.iso

http://smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/WoofCe/devx ... .0.0a1.sfs <-- devx
3e7b37570ce8de8ca8fd1a5b217a427b devx_stretch_7.0.0a1.sfs
ttuuxxx

Hi.

No go here: the boot stops at an "sda9" message. Debugsave folder is
attached as well as my lshw report. My sda9 HD partition is reserved for
PCLinuxOS.

My menu.lst entry for your stretch is as follows:

# 06a
title stretch7-tx22M
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/stretch7-tx22M/lance/vmlinuz quiet pkeys=cf pmedia=satahd root=/dev/ram0
pdev1=sda1 psubdir="stretch7-tx22M" max_loop=14 ramdisk_size=196000 pfix=fsck
initrd (hd0,0)/stretch7-tx22M/lance/initrd.gz
boot

Your stretch is really where it says above. This is the tree of where it
resides:

[/initrd/mnt/...tch7-tx22M]>tree -fish
.
[145M] ./devx_stretch_7.0.0a1_ttuuxxx22M.sfs
[4.0K] ./lance
[2.0K] ./lance/boot.cat
[311K] ./lance/grldr
[2.0M] ./lance/initrd.gz
[1.6K] ./lance/menu.lst
[3.5K] ./lance/menu_puppy_help.lst
[ 22K] ./lance/splash.jpg
[5.1M] ./lance/vmlinuz
[237M] ./puppy_stretch_7.0.0a1.sfs
[ 40M] ./zdrv_stretch_7.0.0a1.sfs

I can't figure out why the boot process is asking for it on a usb drive at
sda9.

IHTH. Best regards.

belham2 · #419 Post by **belham2** » Wed 22 Mar 2017, 18:26

Well, I just loaded ttuuxxx's latest vmlinuz and initrd.gz into my various working directories of frugal installed dpup-stretches (for testing purposes), and all sorts of stuff does not work now. I even went back to the release before this one, and stuff from cherrytree to rscn's peasydisc tools to graphics programs to a whole range of things I had installed/compiled (with the original 4.1.38 and its devx) are not working.

I am jumping off this rabid-release train for now, and will go my own way in the "Puppy Derivatives" forum threads. The original 4.1.38 from a few weeks ago is stable, and everything that I have compiled against it and also installed, just works. The same is not true of these rushed last two ISO releases by ttuuxxx. Topically, they appear great, but when you start running through EVERY programa nd scripts, all sorts of problems crop up.

Good luck ttuuxxx and everyone. I hope things get worked out.....also, imho there's a lot you need to pitch (throw away) in the ISOs being released. JWM configuration manager needs to be replaced by JWM DESK Manager, at a minimum, and scripts & gtkdialog (I am up to the latest) are among many others. Stop releasing so fast and start focusing on the functionality of the pup people are going to be using. At least try to bring dpup pup up to development standardss of many other pup and pup-derivatives on murga. This is not happening in my opinion. The user needs to come into conversation at what they first are presented with when booting up a dpup.

I'll be putting my version of dpup-stretch up tomorrow hopefully once I get everything back to the way I had it yesterday. what a mess/pain. Everything was working great and then this

.

Thanks everyone, and good luck!

#420 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 22 Mar 2017, 23:28

Guys I hardly did many changes since the previous release. I don't see how it could corrupt apps, etc. I always load it first and check for errors and mine is working fine, has any checked the MD5sum I provide? Maybe the iso is off, I'll download both and check. BrB
ttuuxxx

#421 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 22 Mar 2017, 23:39

Just download and check md5sum and both checkout fine for me.
Are you guys loading other sfs by accent? Remember its a different kernel, You might have to keep an eye when booting and see if anything is being loaded that shouldn't be. I've had it running for 12hrs since this morning before I went to work.
This is my Xerrs.log

X.Org X Server 1.19.1
Release Date: 2017-01-11
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 i686 Debian
Current Operating System: Linux puppypc16459 4.1.38 #1 SMP Thu Mar 9 23:23:15 +08 2017 i686
Kernel command line: pmedia=cd
Build Date: 20 January 2017 02:28:45AM
xorg-server 2:1.19.1-4 (https://www.debian.org/support)
Current version of pixman: 0.34.0
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Mar 22 18:29:48 2017
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
resize called 1280 1024
ls: cannot access '/root/.pup_event': No such file or directory
/usr/bin/jwm
cat: /root/.packages/user-installed-packages: No such file or directory
/usr/sbin/quicksetup: line 1068: 7129 Terminated /usr/lib/gtkdialog/box_splash -placement center -close never -fontsize large -icon_width 60 -icon /usr/share/pixmaps/puppy/puppy.svg -text "$WELCOMEMSG"
Playing Sparc Audio '/usr/share/audio/2barks.au' : Mu-Law, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
EXIT="abort"

(palemoon-bin:10052): GLib-GIO-WARNING **: Failed to execute child process "update-desktop-database" (No such file or directory)
gFTP Warning: Skipping line 248 in config file: entropy_source
gFTP Warning: Skipping line 251 in config file: entropy_len
gFTP Warning: Skipping line 254 in config file: verify_ssl_peer

ttuuxxx

musher0 · #422 Post by **musher0** » Thu 23 Mar 2017, 02:56

Hi ttuuxxx.

I have no time for this, for hunting down those boot errors. My hunch is that
you are developing on sda9 and that you left a hard-code of it somewhere,
in the kernel or perhaps in the initrd.

Also, please provide a change log from now on, it will be greatly
appreciated. You're the senior Puppy guy on this thread, you know the drill.

Best regards.

#423 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 23 Mar 2017, 03:58

zigbert wrote:ttuuxxx
Tested briefly you latest build - looks good !

gtkdialog is a bit old, so some advanced options fail (like tree-headers in pMusic). Please update to gtkdialog 0.8.4

Thank you for your effort
Sigmund

Hi Sigmund If you still have it could you test this Gtkdialog and see if it works fine, your the king of gtldialog, So you probably would be the best tester

, I had to re-compile the gexttext that came with Stretch and install some unicode perl files to make it compile right. I'm just wondering it it works fine with the default debian gettext, or if I should use my package.
ttuuxxx

#424 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 23 Mar 2017, 04:01

musher0 wrote:Hi ttuuxxx.

I have no time for this, for hunting down those boot errors. My hunch is that
you are developing on sda9 and that you left a hard-code of it somewhere,
in the kernel or perhaps in the initrd.

Also, please provide a change log from now on, it will be greatly
appreciated. You're the senior Puppy guy on this thread, you know the drill.

Best regards.

Hi Musher I wish it was that easy

I have sda1,sda2,sda4 and sdc1(portable hard drive) and that's it, Nothing over 4
ttuuxxx

musher0 · #425 Post by **musher0** » Thu 23 Mar 2017, 05:17

Then I'll have to give a mouthful to Linus T. !!!

zigbert · #426 Post by **zigbert** » Thu 23 Mar 2017, 08:05

ttuuxxx
Your gtkdialog works fine (as far as I can see). I will use your build some more to see if I can catch any issues.

You are including the old jwmconfig tool. I don't think this one is maintained by anyone. It has been used as a base for the one available in Woof-CE (as a rootfs-package) - now called jwm_config. If you don't like this one, Radky offers an alternative with his JwmDesk.

pTheme is missing... - I guess you have your reasons... ?

Thank you
Sigmund

peebee · #427 Post by **peebee** » Thu 23 Mar 2017, 09:11

ttuuxxx wrote:Next release is up,
http://smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/WoofCe/stretch-7.0.0a1.iso <-- Iso
3d99450da65bde06c88e35133b05e1ab stretch-7.0.0a1.iso

Hi ttuuxxx

Scripts put into /root/Startup don't seem to be executed on startup?? My test script is attached - remove the false .gz and set executable before adding to /root/Startup and testing...

checkdeps -system
is a useful tool to run after each new build - it is showing some missing dependencies....

Some version naming of the iso's might be useful to avoid confusion....

Cheers
peebee

Billtoo · #428 Post by **Billtoo** » Thu 23 Mar 2017, 12:07

peebee wrote: Scripts put into /root/Startup don't seem to be executed on startup??

I had the same problem with a script created by arandr and placed in /root/startup.

musher0 · #429 Post by **musher0** » Thu 23 Mar 2017, 14:23

Yay!

Someone read the French thread for Stretch yesterday!

I had the same
problem with alternate WM's. And of course peebee's Pup is based on a
non-jwm WM, openbox.

Can it be because in the whole wide world, only jwm executes whatever is
in /root/.config/automate? Nah.

Here's what I have as a "bypass" for icewm.

Code: Select all

#!/bin/sh
# ~/Startup/aa_if-icewm.sh
# Lance le panier d'icônes d'icewm et autres
# (c) ) musher0, Gatineau (Qc), Canada, 2017-03-20. GPL3.
####
if [ "`cat /etc/windowmanager`" = "icewm" ];then
	[ -f /usr/bin/icewmtray ] && /usr/bin/icewmtray &
	sleep 0.7s

# Ceux dans /root/.config/autostart/*.desktop
	[ "`pgrep netmon_wce`" = "" ] && `which netmon_wce` &

	[ "`pgrep flsynclient`" = "" ] && `which flsynclient` -s &

	if [ -f /root/.config/autostart/lxrandr-autostart.desktop ];then
		ExeC="`awk -F"'" '$1 ~ /Exec/ { print $2 }' /root/.config/autostart/lxrandr-autostart.desktop`"
		$ExeC
	fi
fi

Except for the icewmtray peculiarity, it's the same for all WM's when you
change WM's. They all need to go though something like this if they are
launched through restartwm, whereas such a script is not necessary on a
first, regular, boot.

restartwm is an incarnation of wmexit. The little "for-do-done" kill sub-
routine at the end of the wmexit script certainly needs to be much
abbreviated (and corrected) to

Code: Select all

WndWMngR="`cat /etc/windowmanager`"
kill -s 9 `pgrep $WndWMngR`

Take a look at what's there presently and you may be tempted to say "Ouch".

I need to generalize my script above to any *.desktop file that would later
be added in the automate directory. For now, it's just an ok "ad hoc"
approach.

Another problem is that if we use a formula such as

Code: Select all

[ "`pgrep netmon_wce`" = "" ] && `which netmon_wce` &

here, the Exec line in its *.desktop file in the autostart directory needs to
be the same in order to recognize if it's running and if so not re-run as a
double. We don't want two netmons (or of anything) in the tray. Because it
seems that at 1st boot the files at /root/.config/automate are used and
upon "restartw's" they are not. But we need to populate the icon tray of
our WM whatever way they are run from.

The "which" command may seem over-cautious, but the ex-factory
woof-CE Stretch originally came without a netmon. So we check.

Have fun !

BFN.

Billtoo · #430 Post by **Billtoo** » Thu 23 Mar 2017, 14:36

I'm running a manual frugal install of a woof-CE auto build, it's using
the latest 4.9.16 kernel.

System: Host: puppypc8455 Kernel: 4.9.16-4G i686 (32 bit) Desktop: Openbox 3.6.1 Distro: Dpup Stretch 7.0.0a1
Machine: Device: desktop Mobo: Acer model: Aspire X3950 serial: U02C120500059
BIOS: American Megatrends v: P01-A3 date: 05/05/2010
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3 540 (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 1200/3067 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.19.2 driver: intel tty size: 140x44 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 508.1GB (6.7% used)
Info: Processes: 191 Uptime: 1:06 Memory: 169.9/2892.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5

I installed applications with PPM + LibreOffice-5.31 + google_earth-7.1.1.1888.sfs

I'm using radky's FbBox-4.1

Like all recent woof-CE builds Vlc segfaults, Kodi does all the
multimedia stuff well.

************************************************************************

EDIT: Kernels get updated pretty often, 4.9.17 was out 4 days after
4.9.16, I compiled the new one with the kernel kit.

I did a new install to my HP desktop:

System: Host: puppypc12054 Kernel: 4.9.17-4G i686 (32 bit) Desktop: Openbox 3.6.1
Distro: Dpup Stretch 7.0.0a1
Machine: Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HPE-410f serial: MXX0370KF3
Mobo: FOXCONN model: 2AB1 v: 1.00 BIOS: American Megatrends v: 6.02 date: 07/21/2010
CPU: Hexa core AMD Phenom II X6 1045T (-MCP-) speed/max: 800/2700 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Redwood PRO [Radeon HD 5550/5570/5630/6510/6610/7570]
Display Server: X.org 1.19.2 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 135x41 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
Card-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1000.2GB (2.0% used)
Info: Processes: 197 Uptime: 1:33 Memory: 213.9/3281.0MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5

#431 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 23 Mar 2017, 15:02

zigbert wrote:ttuuxxx
Your gtkdialog works fine (as far as I can see). I will use your build some more to see if I can catch any issues.

You are including the old jwmconfig tool. I don't think this one is maintained by anyone. It has been used as a base for the one available in Woof-CE (as a rootfs-package) - now called jwm_config. If you don't like this one, Radky offers an alternative with his JwmDesk.

pTheme is missing... - I guess you have your reasons... ?

Thank you
Sigmund

I usually include ptheme, it probably was an oversight in the last build, I'll make sure its in future builds and thanks for the testing

ttuuxxx

belham2 · #432 Post by **belham2** » Thu 23 Mar 2017, 15:07

Hi Guys,

I posted the creation, over on "Puppy Derivatives". Heaven help us or me. Without you, ttuuxxx, none of this goes....your the engine master of the train, and I am barely hanging on in the caboose. And huge thank you(s) to Oscar, Musher, Billtoo and Fred!

After this experience, I think I can safely say I am going back to being a "user". Holy f-r-e-a-k-i-n-g crap, I am not patient and/or smart enough for this stuff, lol

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=110012[/url]

#433 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 23 Mar 2017, 16:04

peebee wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:Next release is up,
http://smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/WoofCe/stretch-7.0.0a1.iso <-- Iso
3d99450da65bde06c88e35133b05e1ab stretch-7.0.0a1.iso
Hi ttuuxxx

Scripts put into /root/Startup don't seem to be executed on startup?? My test script is attached - remove the false .gz and set executable before adding to /root/Startup and testing...

checkdeps -system
is a useful tool to run after each new build - it is showing some missing dependencies....

Some version naming of the iso's might be useful to avoid confusion....

Cheers
peebee

Ok I fixed the startup issue, it was starting too fast. Your little splash dialog script was handy

, yes I knew about the missing deps, I haven't addressed them due to the reason as I compile and fix issues, some of deps become redundant, They either get replaced by newer versions that are/aren't used anymore due to being built on a smaller base system. I like the one missing looking for KDE, lol But I'm starting to think its near time to fulfill them, I have a couple more fixes to do first.
ttuuxxx

Billtoo · #434 Post by **Billtoo** » Thu 23 Mar 2017, 21:31

I did a new woof-CE auto build this afternoon + added a new kernel
compiled with the kernel kit.

System: Host: puppypc19160 Kernel: 4.4.56-4G i686 (32 bit) Desktop: Openbox 3.6.1
Distro: Dpup Stretch 7.0.0a1
Machine: Device: desktop System: Compaq-Presario product: AU194AA-A2L CQ5123F serial: MXX9300M0F
Mobo: MSI model: Boston v: 1.0 BIOS: Phoenix v: 5.24 date: 06/19/2009
CPU: Dual core Pentium E5200 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1600/2500 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.org 1.19.2 driver: nvidia tty size: 132x40 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (6.5% used)
Info: Processes: 145 Uptime: 1:18 Memory: 206.5/3153.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5

I'm using radky's FbBox-4.1.

Works good so far.

666philb · #435 Post by **666philb** » Thu 23 Mar 2017, 22:07

hi ttuuxxx,

the battery monitor powerapplet_tray is missing icons and isn't showing in the tray. the one from tahrpups repos works and it also has pemasus low battery warning.

the gnome-mplayer.desktop file needs the %u removing from the exec line.
also /usr/local/bin/defaultmediaplayer needs setting to
gnome-mplayer, at the moment it's vlc.
i tried playing a hevc x265 encoded file and it works fine

... this fails on 32bit tahrpup with vlc ..... sample files here https://x265.com/hevc-video-files/ (needs a good cpu)

where's abiword 3,0,2? thought you had compliled it (i'm having problems compiling it in xenialpup so any pointers would be good)

thanks for putting 'run in terminal' right click .... every pup should have it
(edit: ooops i had installed it myself ... i'll get together a pet of tahrpups nicer right clicks.... dri2pet, dirsfs, run in terminal etc..and post)

on the whole it's feeling really nippy.

now if you would only work with woof, rather than remastering, we could get a 64bit version

looking forward to the next release

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