(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

Posted: **Sun 23 Dec 2012, 00:34**

Try looking at hansamben puppy.

He It had several games. I think he even updated them to a level 5 pup.

I might even have a copy some where.

[If you are desperate, I will look, let me know if you find it otherwise.];

I would be very excited to see an indestructible Carolina Kids version!!!!!!!

Pete

Posted: **Sun 23 Dec 2012, 01:10**

Geoffrey wrote:Recompiled with change to code, now works in lina-lite, updated the download HERE for testing

Yep, works fine here, in lina-lite.

Thanks a lot.

Sheldon

Posted: **Sun 23 Dec 2012, 04:02**

Pete22 wrote:Try looking at hansamben puppy.

He It had several games. I think he even updated them to a level 5 pup.

I might even have a copy some where.
[If you are desperate, I will look, let me know if you find it otherwise.];

I would be very excited to see an indestructible Carolina Kids version!!!!!!!

Pete

I did an "indestructible" kids version with Carolina not too long ago. Works great and always goes back to original after reboot. It's almost 500MB so I wouldn't even think about offering it for download. I am toying with the idea of doing one based on lina lite which would be much smaller and easier/faster (cheaper) to upload.

Posted: **Sun 23 Dec 2012, 05:37**

Here is a what I've made using the theme manager, a custom mac theme and installed cairo-dock

Posted: **Sun 23 Dec 2012, 07:03**

Been using my custom 005 build for a couple of days now with vlc, virtualbox, and wine all loaded up, haven't rebooted or shutdown the system yet, seems to be stable... but a bit hot

Very nice work by Geoffrey and Elroy

Merry Christmas!

I have a couple questions though...
Why is xfce creating two firefox entries in /root/.config/xfce4/panel/launcher-12 ???

And regarding the xfce panel custom launcher, how can I make the icons smaller? They are a bit too big I think.

Thanks

Geoffrey, nice mac theme:)

Posted: **Sun 23 Dec 2012, 10:11**

jpup wrote:Been using my custom 005 build for a couple of days now with vlc, virtualbox, and wine all loaded up, haven't rebooted or shutdown the system yet, seems to be stable... but a bit hot

Hi jpup. Have you ran the frequency scaling setup from the Control Panel-->Hardware-->CPU Frequency Scaling Tool? Make sure you check out the drop-down list for the correct module for your setup. After you've done that, right click the 'lightning' icon in the panel notification area and select the power mode you'd like to run; then check out 'Hardware Control' in the same right-click menu. This can make a big difference in your machine running cooler, particularly if you're using a laptop or notebook.

jpup wrote:Why is xfce creating two firefox entries in /root/.config/xfce4/panel/launcher-12 ???

That looks like a bug from building 005. Nice catch! One of the .desktop files is on the puppy_lina_005.sfs, and I'm guessing that the other is on the adrive. Fortunately only one appears in the launcher menu, and it doesn't appear to have any adverse consequences. It's safe to delete one of them if you're using a savefile.

jpup wrote:regarding the xfce panel custom launcher, how can I make the icons smaller?

To decrease the panel launcher menu icon sizes, open the file /root/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xsettings.xml, and look under the Gtk property tag. You'll find this in line 27:

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<property name="IconSizes" type="string" value=""/>

Change it to something like this:

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<property name="IconSizes" type="string" value="panel-launcher-menu=16,16"/>

The default size is 32x32, but if 16x16 is too small, you can try 24x24.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that you'll need to restart the X server in order to see the changes.

Posted: **Sun 23 Dec 2012, 19:41**

elroy and geoffrey,

Thanks for a great puppy derivative. I've been using carolina 0.0.5 for a couple of days now with no issues. I have a manual frugal install on my dell d620 laptop with core duo 2.13GHz bcm4311 wifi, 1440x900 display 2.5 GB RAM.

Everything worked OOTB, wifi, correct resolution and even the volume up/down/mute buttons work!

I've never used xfce before and am very impressed at how easy it is to make changes to the panel and launcher.

I also have a new desktop which I haven't had a chance to run it on as yet. The desktop is a HP with AMD FX6100 processor with Radeon 7450 discrete graphics with 10 GB RAM.

Carolina is my current favourite distro to run.

Posted: **Sun 23 Dec 2012, 20:17**

Wow. This is certainly a great-great Christmas present.

I got a wonderful, fast 32bit OS, A surprise in the seasonal desktop theme. A subsystem that allows building of a brand new PUP should I choose. A fast PPM implementation, A great FirstRUN system launch no matter whether a LAN cable is present or not. JAVA built-in, LibreOFFICE stability, And I can go on and on.

Thanks for what you guys have shown us thru your great-great efforts.

Posted: **Mon 24 Dec 2012, 00:47**

New version Xfce-Theme-Manager-0.2.3, I reported Elroy's fix to the developer, here's his reply.

Hadn't spotted the exception but managed to recreate it and it is now fixed please download v0.2.3

The problem seems to be GtkWidgets being in a state of flux when changing theme parts leading to odd sizes ( negative as well as 0 ), the supplied patch almost worked I had to tweak it a bit, now if you try to change tabs/resize the window whilst changing themes if the widgets are not fully realized the manager will just not do anything.

Updated the previous post, get Xfce-Theme-Manager-0.2.3 HERE

Posted: **Mon 24 Dec 2012, 04:27**

Hi Elroy, thanks

elroy wrote:To decrease the panel launcher menu icon sizes, open the file /root/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xsettings.xml, and look under the Gtk property tag. You'll find this in line 27:
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<property name="IconSizes" type="string" value=""/>
Change it to something like this:
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<property name="IconSizes" type="string" value="panel-launcher-menu=16,16"/>
The default size is 32x32, but if 16x16 is too small, you can try 24x24.

Yes, this did the trick, 24x24 seems just about right, doesn't feel like I'm spanning the length of the screen anymore

I've always wanted to edit that xml config file since previous versions, but I didn't actually know what code to put in.

elroy wrote:EDIT: I forgot to mention that you'll need to restart the X server in order to see the changes.

Yes, restarting X is habit I've acquired, when making changes. I've even set my .shutdown_action to "Restart X Windows"

elroy wrote:Hi jpup. Have you ran the frequency scaling setup from the Control Panel-->Hardware-->CPU Frequency Scaling Tool?

Yes, I've already set up my cpu frequencies. I've even added a panel launcher for the cpu frequency scaling tool, for quick changes. I always set my scaling driver to "powernow-k8" and my governor to "ondemand" and I can change min/max pstates as well as thresholds. But this notebook is already quite hot to begin with, it idles at around 56°C - 60°C so I'm a bit concerned about heat, and the best option is to lower max pstates when I don't need the processing power to lower the temps. But sadly, I don't get the same level of hardware optimization I get on windows. On win7/8, I can do most things, multitasking, even 1080p video playback while my cpu clock is set to just 823 MHz. I can't do that on carolina

I'm the type of user who rarely maximizes app windows, since it's a waste of workspace.
I usually have atleast 3 app windows open all the time.

elroy wrote:That looks like a bug from building 005. Nice catch! One of the .desktop files is on the puppy_lina_005.sfs, and I'm guessing that the other is on the adrive. Fortunately only one appears in the launcher menu, and it doesn't appear to have any adverse consequences. It's safe to delete one of them if you're using a savefile.

Yes it doesn't seem like it's causing any problems, I just got a bit spooked

It always comes back even if I delete it or redo the panel launcher.

Thanks again, and have a merry christmas

I'll be going to my girlfriend's house in a bit, maybe help her with preparations for the christmas eve dinner later tonight.

Thanks, Happy holidays!

Posted: **Mon 24 Dec 2012, 04:31**

rg66: I understand your reluctance to offer a 500+m puppy. Puppy likes to be slim and trim.
I think one reason is there are important folks like Barry, who still has dial-up.
The repository that Barry has to upload to is also very so to download from.

Edit: Reread your message:
It sounds like you are having cost issues with big uploads. OK, ignore my request.
I was not aware that could be an issue. Sorry.

For me, however, to have a kids game puppy that was almost indestructible by them; and include
almost no maintenance by me would be worth the 10 to 20 minutes to download it from a fairly
good download repository like smokey01.

I don't know about others, but this Santa

is thinking this would be a win-win situation for the kids
and their adult computer caretakers.

The price is certainly right.

Just a thought from a jolly elf,

er, hum...I mean Pete

PS
just let me know when you have a download available. It will be a welcome
addition for my little Carolina users. :

Posted: **Mon 24 Dec 2012, 05:14**

Elroy: Thanks for reloading the iso.
I was able to get a download today with matching md5.
Without a savefile I was able to begin uploading lina 005.
The start up routine looked unremarkable. I even got to the
desktop which I was not able to before. I even saw the holiday
photo. Very cute.

Now for the bad news.
It took for ever to get to the desktop However, unlike when I had a bad download, it did not ask me
if I still wanted to do an autosync for the clock. I only got the message that the zdrive did not load,
and suggested that maybe it was in the wrong place. Unfortunately , that is not the case.

Then it jammed. alt control backspace did nothing. I had to hold down the off button to get out if there.

So I tried an upgrade from 4 to 5. A lot of things were not found as it tried to boot up and it
never started the upgrade process.

How can I help Pinpoint the problem?

Pete

Posted: **Mon 24 Dec 2012, 06:29**

Pete22 wrote:Elroy: Thanks for reloading the iso.
I was able to get a download today with matching md5.
Without a savefile I was able to begin uploading lina 005.
The start up routine looked unremarkable. I even got to the
desktop which I was not able to before. I even saw the holiday
photo. Very cute.

Now for the bad news.
It took for ever to get to the desktop However, unlike when I had a bad download, it did not ask me
if I still wanted to do an autosync for the clock. I only got the message that the zdrive did not load,
and suggested that maybe it was in the wrong place. Unfortunately , that is not the case.

Then it jammed. alt control backspace did nothing. I had to hold down the off button to get out if there.

So I tried an upgrade from 4 to 5. A lot of things were not found as it tried to boot up and it
never started the upgrade process.

How can I help Pinpoint the problem?

As far as upgraidning goes, be sure you're not using the savefile from 004. You'll need to create a new one from 005. I haven't experienced any of the problems you're describing. The only thing that comes to mind is that either you're trying to use your 004 savefile, or you have a computer that is too old to run Carolina. Either way, neither will do. If you wish to upgrade, I'd highly suggest that you start fresh - 005 and create a new savefile. Without knowing exactly what you've done, I can't offer you any more info than that.

Posted: **Mon 24 Dec 2012, 20:29**

Elroy:

All is well with my 005. As you probably suspected my problem was mostly user error.
When I got the new download I did a manual frugal install like I always do, or so I thought.
I have done it so many times, I just look for necessary files on the iso and move them over
to the hard drive, when I see them. The last part of that sentence is where I made the mistake.

Always before when I opened an iso all the files would show. But this time initrd.gz was hidden
I didn't see it, so I didn't load it. When I made a careful check for every file, I noticed it was missing
Went back to the iso and sure enough it was not showing. I changed the settings to show
hidden files and it popped up. If I had been paying better attention I would have noticed
Carolina always needs at least five files to load properly. Sorry for the worry.

Wondering why this file is showing up as a hidden file in 005 when it was not doing
that before? Regardless, of the reason, I will be more careful next time.

So glad to have Carolina up and working.

Pete

Posted: **Mon 24 Dec 2012, 21:01**

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to every one!!! Happy Holidays

Posted: **Tue 25 Dec 2012, 23:28**

Problem
Edit: The original problem description has been moved.
This problem affects ALL MODERN WOOF PUPs. its description has been moved to here.

Here to help

Posted: **Wed 26 Dec 2012, 17:40**

It appears that would not apply to booting from cd and saving to hdd.
Cheers

Posted: **Thu 27 Dec 2012, 06:41**

With elroy's help, I've edited the package chooser script to ask if you want to update the package list or not before opening the package manager. Save time and bandwidth.

I've also made a pet to open the uninstall window directly, bypassing the package manager. See the original post here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 489#672489

Posted: **Fri 28 Dec 2012, 22:26**

Terry H wrote: I also have a new desktop which I haven't had a chance to run it on as yet. The desktop is a HP with AMD FX6100 processor with 10 GB RAM with Radeon 7450 discrete graphics with 1 GB RAM.

I did a frugal install on the desktop, everything works well except I can't get the screen resolution above 1280x1024, which it is defaulting to. Any attempts to adjust the resolution using the <probe> or <vesa> selections, leave the resolution unchanged at 1280x1024.

I have downloaded the latest AMD linux drivers (stable and also the beta version). The attempted installation returns that a compatible video card not found.

When I ran lspci | grep VGA the result did not show the "Radeon HD....", it only displayed "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc. Device 677b."

when i ran only lspci the line after the VGA controller displayed:

01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc. Caicos HDMI Audio [AMD Radeon 6450].

Any ideas?

Edit: I did a search and found references for the device 677b:
AMD Radeon HD 7400 Series NI 677B

Posted: **Sun 30 Dec 2012, 06:15**

Bligh wrote:It appears that would not apply to booting from cd and saving to hdd.
Cheers

Actually, it does. You see, should you boot from either of those methods and your system has a compressed NTFS that Microsoft allows such that you can get greater utilization of your HDD than you would normally, then when you attempt a Shutdown, and ask Carolina (or any newer PUPs) to save to the NTFS, your system will NOT reboot with the save information from your last session.

Therefore ALL of your work would be lost and you'd have to start over.

Main problem here is that any non-suspecting user would spend lots of time trying to figure out what the problem is.

Hope this helps understanding.

(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

Carolina - 1.3

Regarding games for puppy carolina

Xfce Theme Manager

Re: Regarding games for puppy carolina

carolina xfce panel launcher icons

Re: carolina xfce panel launcher icons

Re: carolina 005

An Undistructable carolina kids version

I have some good news, and then some other news.

Re: I have some good news, and then some other news.

Carolina 005

Save-session file problems with Carolina, too.

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