My report on Quirky 6.0
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Hi Bqrry
here auick 1st setup on be+lqtin1 keyboqrd ....guess zhqt
(posting from Q601 installed on ext4 hdd partition)
i have sticked paper chips to translate my kbd
There could be something like the non-us-keyboard story..
i could not install to USB key memory (see story above)m even from within this partition full install (USB flash install ask for an .iso file ... )
Many thanks to ETP for sharing his knowledges as also all the time he has spent to give advices
Q601 looks faster than ever
cheers
happy NY to all
here auick 1st setup on be+lqtin1 keyboqrd ....guess zhqt
(posting from Q601 installed on ext4 hdd partition)
i have sticked paper chips to translate my kbd
There could be something like the non-us-keyboard story..
i could not install to USB key memory (see story above)m even from within this partition full install (USB flash install ask for an .iso file ... )
Many thanks to ETP for sharing his knowledges as also all the time he has spent to give advices
Q601 looks faster than ever
cheers
happy NY to all
- charlie6
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Here are (unsorted) some difficulties encoutered while «struggling» to get a bootable USB-flash-key while using the install-to-drive.sh script:
- even if syslinux-4.0.5 is installed (thanks Barry !), the created fat16 partition is told as boot by GParted, but actually won't boot;
- GParted reported (reading the «details») missing f2fs-tolls while wanting to check the f2fs created partition;
- the fat16 partition created by /Menu/setup/BootFlash_Install_Puppy_to_USB boots OK (i got a succesfull boot start after copy of the files created by the above script onto an already BootFlash formated USBflashkey: i got the boot splash screen +vmlinuz starting...but nothing more: perhaps the syslinux.cfg needed the right PARTUUID ...);
- i followed ETP's recommandation «close all rox windows» while launching Q6.0.1's install script; otherwise, the install script tells «sdb1 no such file or directory» at populating steps;
- i unplug/replug my key (then care to have it unmounted !!) after formating step;
- i needed to get my USBflashkey repaired using GParted/Partition/Check facility as fdisk -l /dev/sdb1 reported possible damages;
- i did not succeed in using GParted to get a bootable fat16_partition; i even have wondered if GParted could do it ... ;
I also learned a bit more through all those experimentations ...
Friendly Regards, Charlie
- even if syslinux-4.0.5 is installed (thanks Barry !), the created fat16 partition is told as boot by GParted, but actually won't boot;
- GParted reported (reading the «details») missing f2fs-tolls while wanting to check the f2fs created partition;
- the fat16 partition created by /Menu/setup/BootFlash_Install_Puppy_to_USB boots OK (i got a succesfull boot start after copy of the files created by the above script onto an already BootFlash formated USBflashkey: i got the boot splash screen +vmlinuz starting...but nothing more: perhaps the syslinux.cfg needed the right PARTUUID ...);
- i followed ETP's recommandation «close all rox windows» while launching Q6.0.1's install script; otherwise, the install script tells «sdb1 no such file or directory» at populating steps;
- i unplug/replug my key (then care to have it unmounted !!) after formating step;
- i needed to get my USBflashkey repaired using GParted/Partition/Check facility as fdisk -l /dev/sdb1 reported possible damages;
- i did not succeed in using GParted to get a bootable fat16_partition; i even have wondered if GParted could do it ... ;
I also learned a bit more through all those experimentations ...
Friendly Regards, Charlie
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That would be svg. mtpaint is always listed in Open With, it just won't recognise svg, ditto with Viewnior.don570 wrote:Oddity.....
When I right-clicked on certain graphic formats like jpeg and svg
the 'Open with' app list didn't list mtpaint. With the PNG format
it did list mtpaint.
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I thought that I had fixed it for 6.0.1, but found not. But definitely fixed for 6.1.
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Why in the world do you want to use FAT16? (If that's not a typo and you really meant FAT32.) Just curious.charlie6 wrote:- even if syslinux-4.0.5 is installed (thanks Barry !), the created fat16 partition is told as boot by GParted, but actually won't boot;
- i did not succeed in using GParted to get a bootable fat16_partition; i even have wondered if GParted could do it ... ;
Puppy Pets in Quirky6
As a long time Puppy user, but with no coding ability and a 93 year old brain, I am pleasantry surprised that I had no difficulty at all in getting Quirky6 installed. It has been running for several days with no problems - just minor annoyances over my inability to set up some of my favorite features. Somewhat to my surprise I find that some puppy pets do work, but others do not. For example, pupclockset and xonclock are OK, but pupshutdown is not.
Is there a way to recognize (predict) which pets will run in Quirky and and which will not?
Is there any possibility that someday Firefox will be able run in Quirky. I do not like Seamonkey because of my inability to cope with the very small fonts used in the tool bars.
Is there a way to recognize (predict) which pets will run in Quirky and and which will not?
Is there any possibility that someday Firefox will be able run in Quirky. I do not like Seamonkey because of my inability to cope with the very small fonts used in the tool bars.
There is a way to increase the size of the text in SeaMonkey's toolbars, etc.. I forget what it is, but I think it involves entering about:config in SeaMonkey's address window, then finding the appropriate setting and changing it. (Try the lines beginning with font. Select one, right-click on it and enter a new value for the minimum font size. You may have to restart SeaMonkey to see the change.)
I've used Theme Font & Size Changer before with good results.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamon ... e-changer/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamon ... e-changer/
Version Upgrade Manager from Barry Kauler
@BarryK, I dont know if this question is consistent with your latest creation "Version Upgrade Manager" but is there a way to create an bootable ISO from that tool. as well, without the need for the original ISO/IMG file (I'm thinking everything needed to create a copy of the system, in the form of an ISO, is present in the running system and this utility system service)?
In any event, this product is providing guidance in new areas of Puppy support.
Thanks for your accomplishment.
Edited: The first paragraph to make clear the request for understanding
In any event, this product is providing guidance in new areas of Puppy support.
Thanks for your accomplishment.
Edited: The first paragraph to make clear the request for understanding
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- BarryK
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Re: Puppy Pets in Quirky6
I will get around to weeding out all PETs offered in the Package Manager that don't work in Quirky6.don wrote:As a long time Puppy user, but with no coding ability and a 93 year old brain, I am pleasantry surprised that I had no difficulty at all in getting Quirky6 installed. It has been running for several days with no problems - just minor annoyances over my inability to set up some of my favorite features. Somewhat to my surprise I find that some puppy pets do work, but others do not. For example, pupclockset and xonclock are OK, but pupshutdown is not.
Is there a way to recognize (predict) which pets will run in Quirky and and which will not?
Is there any possibility that someday Firefox will be able run in Quirky. I do not like Seamonkey because of my inability to cope with the very small fonts used in the tool bars.
pupshutdown is not appropriate, Quirky doesn't need any shutdown application. There is NO SESSION SAVE-FILE.
The size of all fonts in SeaMonkey are adjustable. If not in the Preferences menu, there is a file in /root/.mozilla/seamonkey/3o1ptd5r.default/chrome that can be edited.
Firefox could be compiled for Quirky6.
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Font size of Seamonkey's menus
Thank you, Barry K. The chrome file works very nicely.BarryK wrote:The size of all fonts in SeaMonkey are adjustable. If not in the Preferences menu, there is a file in /root/.mozilla/seamonkey/3o1ptd5r.default/chrome that can be edited.
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Q 6.1 is out, see my blog announcement:
http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00036
Although there is a Service Pack to upgrade from 6.0.1, unless you particularly want to do that, you might prefer to do a new installation, so as to have a nice pristine 6.1 -- then you can take a system snapshot, for recovery back to the original state if required.
Note, the install scripts, 'install-quirky-to-drive.sh' and 'install-quirky-to-partition.sh' have various improvements, so grab the latest.
http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00036
Although there is a Service Pack to upgrade from 6.0.1, unless you particularly want to do that, you might prefer to do a new installation, so as to have a nice pristine 6.1 -- then you can take a system snapshot, for recovery back to the original state if required.
Note, the install scripts, 'install-quirky-to-drive.sh' and 'install-quirky-to-partition.sh' have various improvements, so grab the latest.
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- charlie6
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about getting an USB boot partition
Hi,
maybe this is far from being relevant to Q6.0.1 ...
runnig Pemasu's raring-3.9.9.2 + embedded syslinux-3.73
this works:
- create boot USB lash using Menu/Setup/BootFlash install at the condition that the wanted puppies .iso archive is located in / or /root; if that .iso archive is located somewhere else (i.e. on an external USB hdd), then the error message «Sorry error mounting USB drive» is displayed (i have tried to mount the usb drive manualy without success);
The resulting usb key boots OK!
Here, this does not work:
- on the same rraring-3.9.9.2 session, if installed the syslinux-4.05 pet downloaded from quirky-6.0.1 repo, then doing the above BootFlash install results in getting a non bootable USB key: trying to boot from it results in «no bootable disk - please insert a bootable floppy ...blablibla» prompt displayed.
cheers, charlie
maybe this is far from being relevant to Q6.0.1 ...
runnig Pemasu's raring-3.9.9.2 + embedded syslinux-3.73
this works:
- create boot USB lash using Menu/Setup/BootFlash install at the condition that the wanted puppies .iso archive is located in / or /root; if that .iso archive is located somewhere else (i.e. on an external USB hdd), then the error message «Sorry error mounting USB drive» is displayed (i have tried to mount the usb drive manualy without success);
The resulting usb key boots OK!
Here, this does not work:
- on the same rraring-3.9.9.2 session, if installed the syslinux-4.05 pet downloaded from quirky-6.0.1 repo, then doing the above BootFlash install results in getting a non bootable USB key: trying to boot from it results in «no bootable disk - please insert a bootable floppy ...blablibla» prompt displayed.
cheers, charlie
6.1 : Method D. Typo .gz read .xz
On very old boards, it may be necessary to use PLOP or some FDD adjuct to achieve boot-up from a USB stick. On failrly recent, but not 1-2yr old boards, don't forget to switch back on the 'legacy/DOS USB' function in BIOS to activate USB booting from F8 or whatever the BIOS permits.
On very old boards, it may be necessary to use PLOP or some FDD adjuct to achieve boot-up from a USB stick. On failrly recent, but not 1-2yr old boards, don't forget to switch back on the 'legacy/DOS USB' function in BIOS to activate USB booting from F8 or whatever the BIOS permits.
My report on Quirky 6.0
I did a fresh install of Quirky 6.1 to a hard drive partition.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Tue 31 Dec 2013 on Quirky 6.1 Linux 3.12.6 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v1p1 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.14.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (513x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
Number of GPUs: 1
GPU #0:
Name : GeForce GT 430
PCI BusID : PCI:1:0:0
Number of Display Devices: 1
Display Device 0 (DFP-0):
EDID Name : HP S2331
Minimum HorizSync : 24.000 kHz
Maximum HorizSync : 94.000 kHz
Minimum VertRefresh : 50 Hz
Maximum VertRefresh : 76 Hz
Maximum PixelClock : 170.000 MHz
Maximum Width : 1920 pixels
Maximum Height : 1080 pixels
Preferred Width : 1920 pixels
Preferred Height : 1080 pixels
Preferred VertRefresh : 60 Hz
Physical Width : 510 mm
Physical Height : 290 mm
AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 Processor
Core 0: @2600 1: @2600 2: @2600 3: @2600 MHz
Just started testing, I found that trying to open the terminal by
right clicking in a folder doesn't work.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Tue 31 Dec 2013 on Quirky 6.1 Linux 3.12.6 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v1p1 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.14.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (513x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
Number of GPUs: 1
GPU #0:
Name : GeForce GT 430
PCI BusID : PCI:1:0:0
Number of Display Devices: 1
Display Device 0 (DFP-0):
EDID Name : HP S2331
Minimum HorizSync : 24.000 kHz
Maximum HorizSync : 94.000 kHz
Minimum VertRefresh : 50 Hz
Maximum VertRefresh : 76 Hz
Maximum PixelClock : 170.000 MHz
Maximum Width : 1920 pixels
Maximum Height : 1080 pixels
Preferred Width : 1920 pixels
Preferred Height : 1080 pixels
Preferred VertRefresh : 60 Hz
Physical Width : 510 mm
Physical Height : 290 mm
AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 Processor
Core 0: @2600 1: @2600 2: @2600 3: @2600 MHz
Just started testing, I found that trying to open the terminal by
right clicking in a folder doesn't work.
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My report on Quirky 6.0
I installed to an 8gb SDHC card, running on my emachines D620 laptop.
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky, version 6.1
Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1280x800
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: synaptics dbe
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Loaded modules: dbe extmod fb kbd mouse shadow synaptics
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1280x800 pixels (338x211 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
I installed a few pets and they are working well.
I installed grun 0.93 which is an application launcher that I find
handy to have.
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky, version 6.1
Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1280x800
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: synaptics dbe
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Loaded modules: dbe extmod fb kbd mouse shadow synaptics
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1280x800 pixels (338x211 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
I installed a few pets and they are working well.
I installed grun 0.93 which is an application launcher that I find
handy to have.
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We need to bring back WakePup2, developed by forum member 'pakt'. haven't seen any posts from pakt on the forum for sometime.Sage wrote:6.1 : Method D. Typo .gz read .xz
On very old boards, it may be necessary to use PLOP or some FDD adjuct to achieve boot-up from a USB stick. On failrly recent, but not 1-2yr old boards, don't forget to switch back on the 'legacy/DOS USB' function in BIOS to activate USB booting from F8 or whatever the BIOS permits.
Here are some links:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/WakePup2
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=7979
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=80291
We actually used to include a compressed 1.44MB floppy disk WakePup image in Puppy, back in early pup 2.x days.
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