Fatdog64-630 & 631 Final (May 12 2014)

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Abdulrahman · #511 Post by **Abdulrahman** » Fri 27 Jun 2014, 08:20

Excuse my linux ignorance but is there reason why Fatdog is based on Puppy rather than Tiny Core linux.

I ask as Tiny core runs in ram and you can install apps with out the need for pet files.

Explanation in idiot terms please.

neerajkolte · #512 Post by **neerajkolte** » Fri 27 Jun 2014, 13:43

Hi Yoni,

The reason I haven't commented on pipeline fix is because I've not had one single glitch , tear or ripple even without it.

My machine is i3 3220 with 6gb ram. I don't have a separate graphics card, I am using onboard graphics. But it's good to know the fix will be included in next release. By that time I might have a nice graphics card.

The only problem I had with FD64-631 was when I USB tethered my droid it failed connect. I just replaced network-setup.sh from 630 to 631, and problem was solved.

@ Abdulrahman,
Fatdog is not "based" on puppy, it has "Evolved" from puppy. So that's why it's still a puppy in the heart.
As far as I know it is based on T2. Built with puppy woof scripts.
I really don't know difference between Puppy and Tiny Core.

If you like, open a thread with name "Difference and Similarities Puppy vs Tiny core", in Off topic sub section. There we might get more answers.

Abdulrahman · #513 Post by **Abdulrahman** » Fri 27 Jun 2014, 22:44

My question was aimed at James and Kirk as the developers and there choice rather than a generic question based on differences.

jamesbond · #514 Post by **jamesbond** » Sat 28 Jun 2014, 09:53

Neerajkolte is right. Fatdog originally was a Puppy derivative, but as it matured it grew farther and farther (in terms of implementation) from Puppy/Woof but continues to keep the Puppy spirit. Today's Fatdog is its own independent distribution, no longer considers Puppy Linux as its "upstream", but freely exchanges ideas and applications with Puppy Linux where possible and makes sense. For more details: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/history.html. That being said, I'd like to emphasise that Fatdog owes its existence to Puppy Linux. Both myself and kirk were Puppy Linux users long before Fatdog was conceived, and if Puppy didn't exist, neither would Fatdog.

As for why Fatdog originated from Puppy and not Tiny Core, I thought it is obvious by looking at their birth dates:
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Puppy Linux was started in 2003.
Fatdog was started in 2008.
Tiny Core was started in 2009.

Bindee · #515 Post by **Bindee** » Sat 28 Jun 2014, 10:19

Without wishing to put words into Abdulrahman mouth i'm guessing by his comment on standard linux installs over PET files he means as Fatdog has progressed and envolved rather than where is started to why it hasn't moved onto tiny core as it's base rather than T2.

I wouldn't want FatDog to change to standard installs as it's more secure that people need to use PET files or load DevX to change or install anything.

Your average script kiddie trying to root a FatDog box would be totally lost when there commands and scripts don't work.

Franciscus · #516 Post by **Franciscus** » Sun 29 Jun 2014, 08:00

Can anyone tell me how to disable and remove the firewall package?

I'm not on a network and my router has a decent firewall.

thankyou.

gcmartin · #517 Post by **gcmartin** » Sun 29 Jun 2014, 13:40

Franciscus wrote:Can anyone tell me how to disable and remove the firewall package?...

Try this

Code: Select all

/etc/rc.d/rc.firewall stop

This firewall taskbar icon really does need a "turn off" feature as @01Micko provides.

Hope this helps

Billtoo · #518 Post by **Billtoo** » Sun 29 Jun 2014, 15:47

Franciscus wrote:Can anyone tell me how to disable and remove the firewall package?

I'm not on a network and my router has a decent firewall.

thankyou.

You can do that in the fatdog control panel, the multicolored cube in the panel starts the control panel.

DrDeaf · #519 Post by **DrDeaf** » Mon 30 Jun 2014, 01:31

I haven't found any earlier post on this, so does anyone successfully use Google Earth with FD64? I generally use 630.

The only package I find to use is: google-earth-stable_current_amd64.deb

I haven't been able to make it run. Any help will be appreciated!

Franciscus · #520 Post by **Franciscus** » Mon 30 Jun 2014, 08:16

DOH! { Face Palm }

How embarrassing , To think i went past the firewall status icon because i thought it was a network activity log.

Thank you.

Bindee · #521 Post by **Bindee** » Mon 30 Jun 2014, 09:09

neerajkolte

I see you had a play with that Bleachbit that a lot of people are talking about online , did you ever get the PET file to work correctly ???

neerajkolte · #522 Post by **neerajkolte** » Mon 30 Jun 2014, 15:51

Hi Bindee,

I have no knowledge of any scripting or programming languages. Also I am using Linux for just 4 months.
I couldn't decipher the errors I got after I installed the pet.
I have posted the errors on page 27 I haven't got any reply from anyone yet so no progress yet.

Any way when I compiled it from source tarball it worked for me.

I have enrolled in a edx.org's course on Linux which starts tomorrow. I hope to get educated soon.

Edit: Oops I got the date mixed up. The course starts on 1st August, one month away.

jamesbond · #523 Post by **jamesbond** » Mon 30 Jun 2014, 17:56

DrDeaf wrote:I haven't found any earlier post on this, so does anyone successfully use Google Earth with FD64? I generally use 630.

The only package I find to use is: google-earth-stable_current_amd64.deb

I haven't been able to make it run. Any help will be appreciated!

Here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=94274.

gcmartin · #524 Post by **gcmartin** » Mon 30 Jun 2014, 21:31

That Google Earth never made it to the REPO.

WillM · #525 Post by **WillM** » Tue 01 Jul 2014, 00:20

Following the instructions given by jamesbond from the above posted link, I created a sfs for google-drive. I made a new post for that in the Additional Pets Forum.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 354#786354

Also, for convience here is the download link.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... sp=sharing

Bindee · #526 Post by **Bindee** » Tue 01 Jul 2014, 04:37

@ neerajkolte

Thanks for trying.

Hopefully someone can get bleachbit working as a PET file as it would be handy for a deep clean of persistent files and cookies before re-mastering a FatDog image.

neerajkolte · #527 Post by **neerajkolte** » Tue 01 Jul 2014, 04:56

Hi Bindee,

Till that time you could try compiling from source tarball.
I didn't find it hard, it worked without giving any error. And cleaned my drive by 24mb.

Bindee · #528 Post by **Bindee** » Tue 01 Jul 2014, 08:15

Thanks neerajkolte

When running fatdog in ram only does anyone know if it is best to disable the " Ram Save Interval " ?

pchan · #529 Post by **pchan** » Mon 07 Jul 2014, 07:18

Dear james and Kirk,

When running fatdog64, My Firefox browser cannot import bookmark.html from my external hard disk.

Also, when i download file, I cannot save to external hard disk partition.

I have already made changes

/usr/share/applications/Firefox.desktop
Exec=firefox-spot to Exec=firefox

according to fatDog64 FAQ page here :

http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/fa ... -spot.html

I cannot remember but other programs are also having difficulties to access files on external hard drive. Using rox file manager, I can access files on external hard drive with no problems.

I am the only one using my netbook so I would appreciate it if there is a way that I can freely access files on external hard drives from any program.

Thanks

jamesbond · #530 Post by **jamesbond** » Mon 07 Jul 2014, 17:12

Thanks WillM for the google earth SFS.

Bindee wrote:When running fatdog in ram only does anyone know if it is best to disable the " Ram Save Interval " ?

If you're asking how - it's in Control Panel --> Event Manager.
If you're asking what's best - then it's really up to you. Some people like to turn it off altogether and save manually. Some people likes to save once every 24 hours. Some people don't want to lose their work and saves every 5 minutes.

pchan,
I think for a strange reason you are still running firefox-spot. How do you launch firefox? Can you check what is inside /usr/share/applications/default-browser.desktop and /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser?

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