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vicmz


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PostPosted: Wed 23 Jul 2014, 20:07    Post subject:  OB Precise 14.07.26, Woof-CE build
Subject description: Openbox & Lxpanel, 158 MB ISO (PAE)
 

This is OpenBox Precise based on Precise 5.7.1, as built by Woof-CE 0.3 with the same kernel 3.9.11 PAE. At first I used gzip compression, which including the additions (mainly Médor's full Abiword 3.0 and special themes, as well as the latest versions of popular Puppy programs at the time) made the v14.07 ISO a bit bigger (205 MB). Version 14.07.26 is somewhat trimmed and xz compressed, making for a 158 MB .iso file, a more comfortable size and more acceptable for a Puppy build.

Note that this is my first time woofing a puppy, so take it as an experimental build. At first it had two bugs that had been previously fixed in early releases of Precise Puppy, the glib-compile-schemas and the keyboard setup switching back to English, these are fixed in the ISO presented here. There might be other issues, and although it seems to work fine (in fact I'm using it daily), I recommend to test it first before adopting it for daily use.

In theory Precise 5.7.1 PET/SFS packages of the forum and repos should work in OB Precise 14.07.26, there's even 666philb's QuickPet Precise in the Setup menu (NOTE: 666philb has updated it sometime after releasing OBprecise). If there's a package that doesn't work, you can run the program from a terminal window and paste the result in a reply to this thread. And if you want to install a language pack, make sure it's a version made for Woof-CE builds of Puppy, otherwise many interfaces will remain in English.

Arrow Download ISO from:

https://copy.com/t4akvsKcu26d

Mirror here:

http://www.puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/vicmz/obprecise140726

(Thanks russoodle)

Also available here:

https://archive.org/details/Puppy_linux_ob_puppy

(Thanks ally)

Idea Openbox Precise 14.07.26 has special keyboard shortcuts:
CTRL+ALT+W=default word processor,
CTRL+ALT+B=default browser,
CTRL+ALT+A=default audio player,
CTRL+ALT+V=default media player,
CTRL+ALT+G=Galculator
CTRL+ALT+E=default text editor,
CTRL+ALT+P=default paint,
CTRL+ALT+K=default spreadsheet editor,
CTRL+ALT+M=default email client,
CTRL+ALT+T=ROXTerm terminal
CTRL+ALT+S=Take a Shot! screen capture,
PrintScreen=Quick screenshot opened in mtPaint.
CTRL+SHIFT+S=PupSnap screen capture (popular tool with an Imgur upload client)
CTRL+SHIFT+X=PupShutdown (shutdown options)

See also how to extend your use of the keyboard, including a cool option to use when your mouse doesn't work:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=791317#791317

And a few posts below, an option to quickly open bookmarked directories (folders) from the Openbox right-click menu.

Arrow Find more themes in the OpenboxPlus thread:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=86206

If you like dark themes, you can use this pet to match the GUI/mime icons, as in the pictures below (do not uninstall):

https://yadi.sk/d/zBz_lBvKXDm8b

To restore previous GUI/mime icons (do not uninstall):

https://yadi.sk/d/LJJ_Y-vqTgN3x

See also the ToggleDocumentColors addon for Seamonkey and Firefox, to make web pages dark with a button click or by pressing a key combination. A nice extension to read at night, minimizing screen brightness.

Idea If you have a wide screen, you may want to set the top panel to minimize when not in use, as in the screenshots below.

Arrow NOTE: For those who still have v14.07, which is missing a keyboard shortcut for terminal, nilsonmorales provided a patch to easily add CTRL+ALT+T shortcut by installing the pet attached to this post. And if you prefer ROXTerm instead of urxvt, here is a pet including that patch to define the CTRL+ALT+T keyboard shortcut (after restarting Lxpanel, Menu > Desktop > Lxpanel restart panel, you'll also be able to launch ROXTerm by clicking the terminal icon of the top panel):

https://yadi.sk/d/JulHDGyeXGq9X

Exclamation List of possible issues

So far these issues have appeared in OB Precise, all of them with solutions though:

- VLC is muted even if other players work as usual ---> NOT happening anymore, but if it does happen, see instructions here to solve it. No need to download a new ISO or install a package.
- Booting to a black screen, only cursor and partition icons visible (seems to be hardware-specific). This can be prevented by making a save file big enough to avoid resizing it in the future (1 GB or more recommended) and by installing only applications most frequently used. See: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=793468#793468
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PostPosted: Thu 24 Jul 2014, 03:01    Post subject:  

Reportando
Inicio OK
Navegador OK
La mayoria de programas que pude abrir funcionan sin errores, claro hay que seguir probando.
todo en orden, me gusta la apariencia, aun no se como copiar y pegar desde urxvt, pero me podria acostumbrar.
Quote:
VIDEO REPORT: OB Precise, version 14.07

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod fb glx kbd mouse record

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1280x1024 pixels (338x270 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

El atajo del teclado a la terminal, eso si es importante para mi, claro no vas hacer nueva .iso solo por eso, una idea sería ofrecer un script con el parche para que no sea tan dificil instalarlo, aqui una muestra, el parche dice asi:
Quote:
--- rc.xml 2014-07-23 22:59:19.633305644 -0600
+++ rc-new.xml 2014-07-23 23:25:04.009835532 -0600
@@ -317,6 +317,11 @@
<command>defaultemail</command>
</action>
</keybind>
+ <keybind key="C-A-t">
+ <action name="Execute">
+ <command>urxvt</command>
+ </action>
+ </keybind>
<keybind key="C-A-g">
<action name="Execute">
<command>galculator</command>

ahora el script aplica el parche y seria algo como esto.
Code:
#!/bin/sh
##parche-rc.xml.sh
## agregando la terminal a los atajos del teclado
wget --no-check-certificate https://copy.com/3Wk1jpdC0z0z/rcxml.patch -P ~/.config/openbox/
cd ~/.config/openbox/
patch < rcxml.patch && openbox --reconfigure
rm -r rcxml.patch

Seguro OBprecise va a mi colección.

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vicmz


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PostPosted: Thu 24 Jul 2014, 13:14    Post subject:  

Hi nilsonmorales, so everything works OK that's good news.

Thanks for the patch idea, I modified some urxvt config:

Code:
--- rc.xml   2014-07-23 22:59:19.633305644 -0600
+++ rc-new.xml   2014-07-23 23:25:04.009835532 -0600
@@ -317,6 +317,11 @@
         <command>defaultemail</command>
       </action>
     </keybind>
+        <keybind key="C-A-t">
+      <action name="Execute">
+        <command>urxvt -fg yellow -bg black -geometry 48x15</command>
+      </action>
+    </keybind>
     <keybind key="C-A-g">
       <action name="Execute">
         <command>galculator</command>


And turned it into a pet, attached to the first post. After installing, it should be possible to open the terminal by CTRL+ALT+T without restarting X.

For urxvt, selecting the text in the terminal window is enough to copy, you don't have to press CTRL+C for example. To paste, simply middle-click with the mouse wheel, or if the mouse doesn't have a middle button, click by pressing both left and right buttons at the same time.

Now for those who prefer ROXTerm instead, here is a pet (also in the first post) including that patch to define the CTRL+ALT+T keyboard shortcut. After restarting Lxpanel, Menu > Desktop > Lxpanel restart panel, you'll also be able to launch ROXTerm by clicking the terminal icon of the top panel. Do not install the patch attached to the first post if you want to install this ROXTerm pet.

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Jul 2014, 20:29    Post subject:  

Downloading now... I'm addicted to new Puppies. LOL Laughing


Roxterm was a very good choice to add. - Thanks for that!
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PostPosted: Fri 25 Jul 2014, 23:16    Post subject:  

I'm releasing a new ISO tomorrow. I managed to reduce its size to 160 MB, which is more acceptable for a Puppy build. I also included ROXTerm, and I'm updating a couple of Puppy programs. The devx remains the same, I'll just change the name to match the version number. After this I might release small updates as PET packages if necessary.

Good, I've learned to woof. Very Happy But the experience will be complete when I learn to use the kernel kit.

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PostPosted: Sat 26 Jul 2014, 01:36    Post subject: You're welcome :)  

vicmz wrote:

Arrow Download ISO, devx and md5sums from:

http://www.puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/vicmz/obprecise1407

(Thanks russoodle)

You're very welcome Very Happy

Congratulations on learning to woof and building this Puppy.

--- Deleted part of post - brain not in gear Rolling Eyes ---

Cheers!

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PostPosted: Sat 26 Jul 2014, 12:13    Post subject:  

This is a nice distro that reminds me of Fluxpup. I like the latest ABI Word (still trying to figure out its flaws) and PDF Viewer seems like a smart choice for PDF's. I use MPlayer and I'm not so sure the installed MPlayer is complete. I had some errors when running one of my typical scripts in terminal on that one. I'll detail that later and a fix might be just to hit the PPM. I can't stand the Seamonkey browser but I still like the choice of install as it comes with my favorite Seamonkey HTML editor.

I installed it to a USB stick and it's booting fine. I'm having my typical create puppy save file issues but that's not unique to your distro.

Thanks for the nice build!

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PostPosted: Sat 26 Jul 2014, 13:58    Post subject:  

Playing with OB Precise 14.07, Woof-CE build, now.

All seems to be extremely good OOTB. no obvious gremlins.

Will post a more detailed report later, very nice so far.

Many thanks and best regards - Ray

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PostPosted: Sat 26 Jul 2014, 14:25    Post subject:  

Have tried it on an old Compaq 700 desktop with 512 Megs RAM plus the same in a swap-partition. Surprisingly it runs quite well. Also have it frugally installed on a Compaq v5000 laptop with an AMD Sempron processor +1024 RAM, which runs very nicely indeed. If the overall size of the distro can be shaved down a bit, even better. No problems so far.
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PostPosted: Sat 26 Jul 2014, 17:54    Post subject:  

I posted some bugs in the bugs section of the board. The biggest issue seems to be the pupsave. See my post in the bugs. I will keep updating as I find (and hopefully find fixes for) issues.

I still like this distro very much!!

All the best!

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PostPosted: Sun 27 Jul 2014, 00:11    Post subject: abiword 3.0.0  

abiword 3.0.0 Medor is still awaiting return from users if this version is correct, because of last inconvenience caused by beta version 2.9.
His pet makes unavaible the previous version by crashing the libs...

# abiword
abiword: error while loading shared libraries: libabiword-3.0.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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PostPosted: Sun 27 Jul 2014, 00:59    Post subject: Re: You're welcome :)  

OpenBox Precise 14.07.26 is available in the first post. It's smaller (158 MB), xz-compressed.

russoodle wrote:
Congratulations on learning to woof and building this Puppy. Don't think my machines could do it justice though, they're several years old and ram is maxed out at 2GB.. Sad

Cheers!


Don't worry, I'm aware of that. I didn't want to push your server with a .iso file, especially a big one, but I had many connection timeouts these days, so I had to use some upload client to avoid restarting the uploads. I discovered that uploading at night is more convenient, so this time I was able to use a web upload. Thanks again.

slavvo67 wrote:
I posted some bugs in the bugs section of the board. The biggest issue seems to be the pupsave. See my post in the bugs. I will keep updating as I find (and hopefully find fixes for) issues.


I'm sorry, I can't reproduce the bug. Maybe you're in a full install? As I usually boot as frugal install, I haven't tested anything about full install. Or maybe if you create the savefile first, reboot then make your customizations.

Pelo wrote:
abiword 3.0.0 Medor is still awaiting return from users if this version is correct, because of last inconvenience caused by beta version 2.9.
His pet makes unavaible the previous version by crashing the libs...

# abiword
abiword: error while loading shared libraries: libabiword-3.0.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
#


It's OK, Pelo. I replaced the older Abiword with the new one.

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PostPosted: Sun 27 Jul 2014, 01:12    Post subject: ROX bookmarks
Subject description: from Openbox right-click menu
 

Idea If you've been using the OpenboxPlus pets, you may already know this feature. You can bookmark directories in ROX-Filer and have them as shortcuts in the Openbox right-click menu. Remember that the partition where the bookmarked directories are located must be mounted to access them. See the screenshots below for reference.
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PostPosted: Sun 27 Jul 2014, 08:03    Post subject: Re: You're welcome :)  

vicmz wrote:
OpenBox Precise 14.07.26 is available in the first post. It's smaller (158 MB), xz-compressed.

russoodle wrote:
Congratulations on learning to woof and building this Puppy. Don't think my machines could do it justice though, they're several years old and ram is maxed out at 2GB.. Sad

Cheers!


Don't worry, I'm aware of that. I didn't want to push your server with a .iso file, especially a big one, but I had many connection timeouts these days, so I had to use some upload client to avoid restarting the uploads. I discovered that uploading at night is more convenient, so this time I was able to use a web upload. Thanks again.

No, no, sorry vicmz, that is not what i meant at all, i was talking gibberish, totally unrelated to my server Embarassed

Please, by all means upload it...unless you've received a message that there's insufficient space. I can't believe that Puppy is gnawing on 94% of my server space but i'm making some more accommodation arrangements, so it shouldn't be a problem for long, if at all Wink

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PostPosted: Sun 27 Jul 2014, 17:41    Post subject: Re: You're welcome :)  

russoodle wrote:
that is not what i meant at all


I shouldn't read when I'm supposed to be sleeping. Embarassed Alright, it's all uploaded to both sites.

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