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Please, short translation needed! [RESOLU]
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Argolance


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PostPosted: Thu 12 Feb 2015, 12:54    Post subject:  Please, short translation needed! [RESOLU]
Subject description: da, de, el, es, it, nl, pl, pt, ru...
 

All is in the title!
Thank you!
da, de, el, es, it, nl, pl, pt, ru.
EDIT: chains modified following L18L advice:
Quote:
.------------------------------------------
LANGPACK DOWNLOAD/INSTALLATION REQUIRED!
(Internet connection status: Not connected)
------------------------------------------
Before downloading the langpack, you will have to make an Internet connection.
You may do this at any time in the future.
Click on the icon and ToOpPy $TTTITLE_XX will continue...

-----------------------------------
LANGPACK INSTALLED
-----------------------------------
Click on the icon to continue...

------------------------------------------
LANGPACK DOWNLOAD/INSTALLATION REQUIRED!
(Internet connection status: Connected)
------------------------------------------
There is a suitable package.
Click on the icon to download/install it.

------------------------------------------
LANGPACK DOWNLOAD/INSTALLATION NOT REQUIRED!
(Internet connection status: Connected)
------------------------------------------
Click on this icon to continue...

The current langpack:
'$app'
seems to be older than the one that is available on the server:
'$app_'

Do you want to download/install it now?

Update from:
'$app'
to
'$app_'
cancelled...


The langpack:
'$app'
will be downloaded/installed now.

ToOpPy Quick Setup will continue afterwards...

Aborted!

quickcountry
chooselocale
countrywizard
quicksetup


Cordialement.

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don570


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PostPosted: Thu 12 Feb 2015, 15:34    Post subject:  

I tried Google translation service for my create-m3u pet

I found that I should ...
-delete certain characters such as $ sign.
-Put punctuation at end of each sentence and heading
-Arrange so each line is a complete sentence.
- Technical words such as Langpack and pet or SFS should remain in English
- Arabic reverses flow direction of sentence ----for instance -> Dollar sign is at back end of number and variable
of word rather than front end.
- Save entire page as HTML format and put the language in the file name
so it can be reopened easily when using momanager
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I could try to do an Arabic and a Chinese translation for you if you want
(even though I don't speak a word of these languages)

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Feb 2015, 16:16    Post subject:  

IT
IT.tar.gz
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L18L

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Feb 2015, 07:33    Post subject: Re: Please, short translation needed!
Subject description: Aborted
 

Argolance wrote:
The locale will be changed into Danish."

Click on this icon to set English as default locale."

Click on this icon to set Danish as default locale."
English and Danish are NOT locales.
English and Danish are languages.
Aborted!

Cordialement. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Feb 2015, 11:47    Post subject:  

Bonjour,
Thank you xanad!
don570 wrote:
I tried Google translation service

... When I see Google translation from English to French, which is my language, it is obviously understandable but cannot, in my opinion, be used as it stands for programs.

Cordialement.

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Feb 2015, 12:40    Post subject:  

Bonjour,
L18L wrote:
English and Danish are NOT locales.
English and Danish are languages.

Can you please be more explicit?
Quote:
Aborted!

Shocked
All the same...
What I can say: Texts above are displayed in popups on mouse hovering buttons that let user choose the locale using quicksetup GUI in his own language (This "Welcome chooser" was already present in the previous and first version of ToOpPy).

Cordialement.
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PostPosted: Sat 14 Feb 2015, 05:46    Post subject:  

Argolance wrote:
Can you please be more explicit?

Argolance wrote:
Texts above are displayed in popups on mouse hovering buttons that let user choose the locale using quicksetup GUI in his own language[/i]

You say it correctly here: quicksetup will come in the chosen language.
Why flags? It is about languages not countries! (Which flag for Arabic Rolling Eyes )

Your flags let user choose a language for quicksetup.
quicksetup let choose the locale (there are some more francophones in countries other than France)

Quote:
Aborted!

I do Not translate phrases if I am convinced they are wrong.

Best tooltip text would be just the language name.
Just my humble opinion. Wink

EDIT
Or even better than best: Replace flags by language names.
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PostPosted: Sat 14 Feb 2015, 07:01    Post subject:  

Hello,
Thanks for replying.
Quote:
Best tooltip text would be just the language name.
Just my humble opinion.
EDIT
Or even better than best: Replace flags by language names.

Sorry but, visually, I didn't find something better to call a specific language to mind than the (colors of) flag of the country in which it is originally spoken. It is nothing else than... a fact. Notice that, for English language, i didn't use the US flag! Wink

When I was a little boy, I liked a lot to look at flags at the end of my dictionary, with lots of color. Nice and bright... I kept the same eye: this is how I see flags, how I intend to see them. I do not try to serve or deserve any ideology, just do something simple, immediately understandable for all users, regardless of their background (as far as I'm concerned, I feel and am Breton at first, before being French, but I do not speak Breton)!
Quote:
I do Not translate phrases if I am convinced they are wrong.

May I say that this "climate of opinion" is NOT constructive AT ALL?

Cordialement.

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Feb 2015, 08:39    Post subject:  

Argolance wrote:
May I say that this "climate of opinion" is NOT constructive AT ALL?

Yes of course you may.

A today's dictionary: http://www.wikipedia.org/
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PostPosted: Sat 14 Feb 2015, 11:55    Post subject:  

Hello L18L,
So, to be in keeping with Puppy "spirit" (you have indeed done enough for Puppy to be a worthy representative of it and I don't want to be blamed about anything: your approbation would miss me!), I modified the pictures of my script, following your advice...

Cordialement.
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PostPosted: Sat 14 Feb 2015, 12:31    Post subject:  

PS: what is making things a bit complicated is that my script let user choose his language at first run but also, later and if he wants, change the locale "on the fly". To do this, user don't need Choose locale GUI to be displayed in the language matching with chosen "locale"...

(with a little help from my Puppy "friends"... Wink)

EDIT: Chains modified in the first post. Is it OK?

Cordialement.

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Feb 2015, 16:58    Post subject:  

The toopy-and-binoo cartoon show will begin again on
Sunday morning in Canada April 22 ---> radio-canada.ca
French of course!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1hsdaw18-0

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Feb 2015, 17:14    Post subject:  

It is possible to convert Precise Puppy into Chinese.
There is a langpack available.

I explain how I did it HERE

I tried to do a translation into Arabic and Chinese

http://www.datafilehost.com/d/5549b52a

Arabic is quite hard because the difference in the flow direction
confuses the texteditor Rolling Eyes

Best thing to do is open the html file
with Composer and use the clipboard to paste in poeditor.

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Feb 2015, 05:39    Post subject: Re: Please, short translation needed!
Subject description: de
 

Code:
------------------------------------------
LANGPACK DOWNLOAD/INSTALLATION ERFORDERLICH!
(Internetverbindungs-Status: Nicht verbunden)
------------------------------------------
Ohne Internetverbindung kann kein Sprachpaket heruntergeladen werden.
Das kann jederzeit später gemacht werden.
Klick auf das Symbol und ToOpPy $TTTITLE_XX wird weitermachen...

-----------------------------------
LANGPACK INSTALLIERT
-----------------------------------
Weiter mit Klick auf das Symbol...

------------------------------------------
LANGPACK DOWNLOAD/INSTALLATION ERFORDERLICH!
(Internetverbindungs-Status: Verbunden)
------------------------------------------
Es gibt ein passendes Paket.
Klick auf das Symbol zum Herunterladen/Installieren.

------------------------------------------
LANGPACK DOWNLOAD/INSTALLATION NICHT ERFORDERLICH!
(Internetverbindungs-Status: Verbunden)
------------------------------------------
Weiter mit Klick auf dieses Symbol...

Das momentane Sprachpaket:
'$app'
scheint älter als das auf dem Server verfügbare zu sein:
'$app_'

Es jetzt herunterladen/installieren?

Update von:
'$app'
auf
'$app_'
abgebrochen...


Das Sprachpaket:
'$app'
wird jetzt heruntergeladen/installiert.

Mit ToOpPy Quick Setup wird es danach weitergehen...

Abgebrochen!

Argolance wrote:
.------------------------------------------
LANGPACK DOWNLOAD/INSTALLATION REQUIRED!
(Internet connection status: Not connected)
------------------------------------------
Before downloading the langpack, you will have to make an Internet connection.
You may do this at any time in the future.
Click on the icon and ToOpPy $TTTITLE_XX will continue...

-----------------------------------
LANGPACK INSTALLED
-----------------------------------
Click on the icon to continue...

------------------------------------------
LANGPACK DOWNLOAD/INSTALLATION REQUIRED!
(Internet connection status: Connected)
------------------------------------------
There is a suitable package.
Click on the icon to download/install it.

------------------------------------------
LANGPACK DOWNLOAD/INSTALLATION NOT REQUIRED!
(Internet connection status: Connected)
------------------------------------------
Click on this icon to continue...

The current langpack:
'$app'
seems to be older than the one that is available on the server:
'$app_'

Do you want to download/install it now?

Update from:
'$app'
to
'$app_'
cancelled...


The langpack:
'$app'
will be downloaded/installed now.

ToOpPy Quick Setup will continue afterwards...

Aborted!
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Feb 2015, 17:30    Post subject:  

When I tried to install the Chinese language pack in Tooppy

the first window would show Chinese, but then the second same window would
show in French. The installation was damaged. Crying or Very sad

So there is some incompatability.

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