Create Debian 9 (Stretch) minimal ISO similar to DebianDog

[fredx181]

Hi johnywhy,

Update: solved the pkexec issue with
Code:
/usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd &

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... comments/1
is that an acceptable long-term solution for DevuanDog?

To be honest, I could never understand how this "pkexec" thing works, if above works for you it's ok, I guess.
I made Synaptic and Gparted run from Menu (when logged in as normal user) work by editing the .desktop launcher in /usr/share/applications and change Exec= line to:

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Exec=gsu synaptic

Similar for gparted, (gsu = "Graphical sudo")

Probably you'll find more issues when login as puppy or other normal user, it isn't much tested, so I wouldn't recommend it.
EDIT: I understood (wrong, I think) that you had this pkexec issue when logged in as puppy.

Update: i solved the chromium issue with the --no-sandbox switch. Chromium runs, but says "You are using an unsupported command-line flag --no-sandbox. Stability and security will suffer."

You can add also:

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--disable-infobars

And the message will not appear.

any way to restrict it to the current partition, or preferably the current folder? I don't like the limitation of having to worry about duplicate names on some other partition

Yes, with UUID, e.g.
changes=UUID:XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX/my_changes
Replace the "XXXX...." with the UUID string, you can find it with blkid

It might help if i can login to puppy desktop, but the booter seems to override boot level 3. Which i really want to do anyway, so i can login as puppy or other non-root user. How to boot to level 3?

What I do is:
- Exit X
- type login, press Enter
- type username, press Enter
- type password, press Enter
No need for level 3, I guess (but maybe I misunderstand)

Fred

[johnywhy]

Hi fred

Is it possible to boot to command prompt, without logging in, instead of booting into X?

Is it possible to run X as puppy?

when i tried to startx as puppy, i got
"[ 27920.615] (EE) modeset(0): drmSetMaster failed: Permission denied"

Fixed that with specify to use the intel(4) driver
via /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Section "Device"
Identifier "Configured Video Device"
Driver "intel"
EndSection

http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/Bug-83318 ... 01124.html

Is that a good fix?

Now i believe i'm getting

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[ 42556.191] (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "SEC", prod id 14407
[ 42556.191] (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines:
[ 42556.191] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x900"x0.0   96.31  1440 1504 1536 1760  900 903 906 912 -hsync -vsync (54.7 kHz eP)

THX

[fredx181]

Is it possible to run X as puppy?

when i tried to startx as puppy, i got
"[ 27920.615] (EE) modeset(0): drmSetMaster failed: Permission denied"

I think I see what's the problem, it's XFCE build right ?
I just tried and I got similar error.
It's not pre-configured for user puppy, instead of startx, type startxfce4 after puppy login, then X should start.
Also you need to configure XFCE, like theme, icons etc...
Sorry, didn't realize this earlier.

Is it possible to boot to command prompt, without logging in, instead of booting into X?

Yes, do from terminal:

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cp -af /etc/inittab-noauto /etc/inittab

After save and reboot, autologin should be disabled then.

EDIT: Fix to make startx work with puppy login:

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ln -s /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc /home/puppy/.xinitrc

Fred

[dcung]

External monitor question.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1004855

[dcung]

I use mklive-stretch to make xfce 64 bit iso.
Thunar has the 'root warning' bit, and a little searching led me
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... &start=675
So, I looked in synaptic and it's already installed (later version).

I also found articles that suggested to edit thunar-window.c, but I guessed that require re-compiling.

How do I get rid that 'root warning'?

Also, in FullDog, XFCE menu is slightly different.
How do I get the 'search' section on top instead of bottom?
Is there a different 'whisker' plugin to install?

[Mike Walsh]

Interesting project, Fred.

After several false starts, I've finally got an XFCE-based, multimedia-centric compressed image made.....but every time it fails when trying to create the ISO.

I'm doing this in Xenialpup64. Created an ext4 partition just for the job. The script works beautifully.....it's really weird seeing Debian stuff scrolling through Puppy's terminal, I can tell ya!

I installed the xorriso package from the Xenial64 repos; obviously it needs to be installed on the host machine you're building this in, yes? It keeps telling me it can't find the correct path for the information required for the ISO.....or summat similar.

Any suggestions? Bearing in mind I'm not in Debian, how would I go about creating the ISO from the material I have inside the 'stretch' directory? (see below):-





Or can it be used directly as the basis for a 'quick-n-dirty' frugal install? (Create folder, copy contents of ISO across, run Grub4DOS?) Total size of the 'stretch' directory, by the way, is around 3.3 GB.....there is a lot of multimedia stuff in there, mate!

I assume I need to end up with something similar to BionicDog's /mnt/home, yes?





I await instruction, Maestro......


Mike.

[mikeslr]

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How do I get the 'search' section on top instead of bottom?
Is there a different 'whisker' plugin to install?

Make sure your mouse-cursor is on the Whisker Menu, not just next to it. Right-Click. Select Properties. Left-Click the Behavior Tab. Check or uncheck boxes as appropriate.

[fredx181]

Hi Mike Walsh,

I installed the xorriso package from the Xenial64 repos; obviously it needs to be installed on the host machine you're building this in, yes?

Yes, xorriso on host machine, but also package "isolinux" is required for creating ISO (missing that is probably why it failed to create ISO for you), I think it's available from PPM on newer puppies.

Or can it be used directly as the basis for a 'quick-n-dirty' frugal install? (Create folder, copy contents of ISO across, run Grub4DOS?)

Without having created ISO you can still make frugal install using Grub4DOS.
On Bionicdog it's "casper" directory having the files inside, for Stretch it's "live" directory (inside stretch/isodata folder)

EDIT: See here for options frugal install:
https://github.com/DebianDog/Jessie/wiki/Porteus-boot
(change where it says in title "Wheezy" to "Stretch")
TODO: Make wiki page specially for Stretch

EDIT: Reading your message better, I think you'd like to create ISO from what has been built already.
If xorriso and isolinux is installed:
From terminal standing in the "stretch' directory:

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NEWISO=$PWD/isodata
LABEL=deblive
NAME=../DebLive_Stretch.iso

cd "$NEWISO"

xorriso -as mkisofs -r -J -joliet-long -l -isohybrid-mbr /usr/lib/ISOLINUX/isohdpfx.bin -partition_offset 16 -V "$LABEL" -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -o ${NAME} "$NEWISO"

Fred

[dcung]

Make sure your mouse-cursor is on the Whisker Menu, not just next to it. Right-Click. Select Properties. Left-Click the Behavior Tab. Check or uncheck boxes as appropriate.

Thanks Mike.

[Mike Walsh]

Hi, Fred.

Yes; it seems you were right. 'Twas the addition of isolinux from Xenial64's repo that did the trick.

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root# NEWISO=$PWD/isodata 
root# LABEL=deblive 
root# NAME=../DebLive_Stretch.iso 
root# 
root# cd "$NEWISO" 
root# 
root# xorriso -as mkisofs -r -J -joliet-long -l -isohybrid-mbr /usr/lib/ISOLINUX/isohdpfx.bin -partition_offset 16 -V "$LABEL" -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -o ${NAME} "$NEWISO"
xorriso 1.4.2 : RockRidge filesystem manipulator, libburnia project.

Drive current: -outdev 'stdio:../DebLive_Stretch.iso'
Media current: stdio file, overwriteable
Media status : is blank
Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 33.8g free
xorriso : WARNING : -volid text does not comply to ISO 9660 / ECMA 119 rules
Added to ISO image: directory '/'='/SeaDesk/SeaDesk-4/stretch/isodata'
xorriso : UPDATE : 25 files added in 1 seconds
xorriso : UPDATE : 25 files added in 1 seconds
xorriso : NOTE : Copying to System Area: 432 bytes from file '/usr/lib/ISOLINUX/isohdpfx.bin'
libisofs: NOTE : Aligned image size to cylinder size by 53 blocks
xorriso : UPDATE :  0.34% done
xorriso : UPDATE :  21.54% done
xorriso : UPDATE :  30.66% done, estimate finish Tue Sep 18 22:06:17 2018
xorriso : UPDATE :  43.88% done, estimate finish Tue Sep 18 22:06:17 2018
xorriso : UPDATE :  52.43% done, estimate finish Tue Sep 18 22:06:17 2018
xorriso : UPDATE :  56.88% done, estimate finish Tue Sep 18 22:06:19 2018
xorriso : UPDATE :  63.85% done, estimate finish Tue Sep 18 22:06:19 2018
xorriso : UPDATE :  66.82% done, estimate finish Tue Sep 18 22:06:20 2018
xorriso : UPDATE :  70.75% done, estimate finish Tue Sep 18 22:06:21 2018
xorriso : UPDATE :  74.36% done, estimate finish Tue Sep 18 22:06:22 2018
xorriso : UPDATE :  77.32% done, estimate finish Tue Sep 18 22:06:23 2018
xorriso : UPDATE :  81.24% done, estimate finish Tue Sep 18 22:06:23 2018
xorriso : UPDATE :  84.36% done, estimate finish Tue Sep 18 22:06:23 2018
xorriso : UPDATE :  88.57% done, estimate finish Tue Sep 18 22:06:24 2018
xorriso : UPDATE :  93.36% done
xorriso : UPDATE :  96.83% done
ISO image produced: 284672 sectors
Written to medium : 284672 sectors at LBA 0
Writing to 'stdio:../DebLive_Stretch.iso' completed successfully.

Took all of about 10 seconds. Thank you.

It's a 'biggie', at 556 MB......but I told you I'd added a lot of stuff. Openshot, VLC, the GIMP, xvidcap, recordmydesktop, libreoffice.....to name but a few. Plus several of your additional 'dog' packages as well. And Google Chrome, of course.

Doubtless I shall modify it further as I go along, but it'll be nice to start off with what I consider to be the multimedia 'essentials'.....Openshot in particular. (Which I gave its first really serious 'run' today; joined 2 webm videos together, changed output types and format, and transcoded and exported as a single .mp4 video. Worked perfectly, too!)

It's probably the hardest the dual-core Athlon64 has ever worked; flat-out, 98-99% CPU usage for well over an hour. (And still didn't break through the 60C mark.) There again, I wouldn't like to say; I 'inherited' the Compaq desktop from my sister 4 years ago. The single-core Athlon it came with had had a very gentle life.....all she ever used to do was play 'The Sims'. This X2, I picked up on eBay for around £7 GBP.....but it was in pristine condition. Never given me any trouble, either.

You're right, though; I didn't really want to have to do it all over again. I had around a dozen 'false starts' before I finally got everything right.....but, like I said, your scripts worked perfectly.

Thanks for the tip about 'isolinux'..!

Cheers.


Mike.

EDIT:- One query, if I may? Since this was 'built' on an ext4 file-system, will it need an ext4 partition to run from.....or will it work from ext3? And would it run from a sub-directory?

[westwest]

Hi Fred, yes i am getting that selfsame message:

# ./mklive-stretch
Checking network connection...
There is no network connection. Cannot continue, exiting...


I remember making a StretchDog with the script a while ago, and i almost always use wifi.
Perhaps the script has changed?

[dcung]

I made Stretch64 XFCE based iso.
I'd like to add few apps and then remaster it.

First add-on was nvidia driver. (Can I include nvidia driver during mklive?)
The changes dir grows by 500MB from fresh, for the driver 'alone'.

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apt-get update
apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
apt-get install nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver 

Some of it would be the database, from repo (does remaster tool get rid of it before remastering? If not, how/where to get rid of it?).
Some would be tools to install the driver, compilers, etc (?)
What can I get rid of before remastering to minimize the iso?

EDIT
Answering some of my own questions.
- Yes, I can include nvidia driver during mklive build.
But I think it includes everything. Hence, I still need to find out what to 'clean up', before final iso made.

[fredx181]

I made Stretch64 XFCE based iso.
I'd like to add few apps and then remaster it.

First add-on was nvidia driver. (Can I include nvidia driver during mklive?)
The changes dir grows by 500MB from fresh, for the driver 'alone'.

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apt-get update
apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
apt-get install nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver 

Some of it would be the database, from repo (does remaster tool get rid of it before remastering? If not, how/where to get rid of it?).
Some would be tools to install the driver, compilers, etc (?)
What can I get rid of before remastering to minimize the iso?

EDIT
Answering some of my own questions.
- Yes, I can include nvidia driver during mklive build.
But I think it includes everything. Hence, I still need to find out what to 'clean up', before final iso made.

I *think* , but please someone correct me if I'm wrong (I don't know much about these things), that you can safely remove (purge) linux-headers, since the nvidia driver is already built (using DKMS).
Also do a "apt-get autoremove" afterwards, reboot with changes saved and if it's still ok, then do a remaster.

Fred

[fredx181]

EDIT:- One query, if I may? Since this was 'built' on an ext4 file-system, will it need an ext4 partition to run from.....or will it work from ext3? And would it run from a sub-directory?

Can be booted from any filesystem, only if you want to use changes folder, that needs to be on a Linux filesystem e.g. ext2, ext3, ext4.

Running from a sub-directory I'd highly recommend, e.g place the live directory in folder with unique name, for example "Stretch-Live-64" on sda1, then grub4dos entry:

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title Stretch-Live 64-bit -  changes to /Stretch-Live-64/
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /Stretch-Live-64/live/vmlinuz1 from=/Stretch-Live-64 noauto changes=/Stretch-Live-64/
 initrd /Stretch-Live-64/live/initrd1.xz

This will save the changes to sda1/Stretch-Live-64/changes, must be on Linux formatted partition.
If e.g. on FAT32, you must use a save-file instead of folder, e.g. changes.dat.

Fred

[Mike Walsh]

Hi, Fred.

Ah, good; I'd hoped a sub-directory would be okay. That's super.

Um; that boot stanza. I can just insert that into Grub4DOS.....modded for my own system, yes? So, let's see; sda10...I think that's going to be (hd0,9), if I have that correct.

If so, then time, I think, to have a play around with XFCE.....my favourite DE of all.


Mike.

[dcung]

I *think* , but please someone correct me if I'm wrong (I don't know much about these things), that you can safely remove (purge) linux-headers, since the nvidia driver is already built (using DKMS).
Also do a "apt-get autoremove" afterwards, reboot with changes saved and if it's still ok, then do a remaster.

These got rid of 50MB...approx 10%.. Think I'll leave that as is...

BTW
What difference does it make? It seems that I can put packages in any of these sections. Are they 'logical' separation and they are 'merged'?
Base Install:
Base Dog Packages Install:
Applications Install:

Say, grsync or samba, does it matter if add them in any particular section?

[dcung]

I made few 64bit iso from mklive GUI.

I happened to test user puppy in XFCE4 version.
Puppy login ok, but startx does not work.
I thought it was related to what Fred found earlier (and chown fixed that), but it was not.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... &start=167
I created another user (guest) using adduser in menu, and same, startx does not work.

I tested the openbox & full dog versions, and they were ok. Puppy user can login and startx work.

I thought I saw the issue mentioned in other post? But could not find the post again. Or is it a new one?

[johnywhy]

Puppy login ok, but startx does not work.

Devuan-ascii built w/ Fred's script:

attempting to login as puppy, getting errors:

tty error.
fix: added puppy to tty group

On reboot, puppy was no longer in tty group.
any ideas?

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error: [ 615.657] (EE) modeset(0): drmSetMaster failed: Permission denied
fix: specify to use the intel(4) driver
via /etc/X11/xorg.conf

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Section "Device" 
        Identifier	"Configured Video Device" 
        Driver "intel" 
EndSection 

http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/Bug-83318 ... 01124.html

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After above fixes, i can login to puppy desktop,
but keyboard and mouse don't work.
Ideas?

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Devuan is the most exciting new distro on the horizon, cuz:
- Fully-debian compatible.
- Non-admin desktop (if can get puppy to x!)
- No systemd.
- tiny

WOW. Thx to rcrsn51 and fredx181 for incredible stuff

[dcung]

@johnywhy

I don't understand what you're posting ???
Is it a solution to the problem I described ??? Doesn't look like it.

What I described was not specific to Intel Graphics card anyway.
I tested on different laptops, and one uses nvidia driver, one nouveau, one intel.


EDIT
... your edit clarify that you were asking.
No idea, sorry...

After above fixes, i can login to puppy desktop,
but keyboard and mouse don't work.
Ideas?

[fredx181]

@dcung, see at EDIT here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 36#1004436

Should work, but XFCE configuration needs to be done from scratch when login as puppy.

EDIT:

I use mklive-stretch to make xfce 64 bit iso.
Thunar has the 'root warning' bit, and a little searching led me
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... &start=675
So, I looked in synaptic and it's already installed (later version).

I also found articles that suggested to edit thunar-window.c, but I guessed that require re-compiling.

How do I get rid that 'root warning'?

Forgot to answer, (I have started too many threads )
Your link above applies for Jessie, not for Stretch.
Yes, Thunar requires recompiling to get rid of that root warning, can't remember atm how I did it, will look into that soon.

These got rid of 50MB...approx 10%.. Smile Think I'll leave that as is...

BTW
What difference does it make? It seems that I can put packages in any of these sections. Are they 'logical' separation and they are 'merged'?
Base Install:
Base Dog Packages Install:
Applications Install:

You can have a look in Synaptic's history or in /var/log/apt/history.log what you all installed, maybe "build-essential" or other tools you don't need anymore.
Btw, in that 500MB, there probably is apt cache included, remove with:

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apt-get clean

The Base Install:, Base Dog Packages Install: etc.. are just for better overview, so it doesn't matter in which section you add a package.

Fred