TahrPup 5.8.4

[James C]

Another frugal install......

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: tahrpup, version 5.8.3.rc1

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 
  Drivers requested to be loaded:       modesetting 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): modesetting
  Loaded modules: dbe extmod fb glx kbd mouse shadow

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

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# glxgears
1196 frames in 5.0 seconds = 239.071 FPS
1302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 260.357 FPS
1282 frames in 5.0 seconds = 256.273 FPS
1241 frames in 5.0 seconds = 248.120 FPS
868 frames in 5.0 seconds = 173.566 FPS

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-Computer-
Processor		: 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory		: 3886MB (455MB used)
Machine Type		: Physical machine
Operating System		: tahrpup - 5.8.3.rc1
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Sat 27 Sep 2014 09:54:09 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution		: 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 128 bits)
X11 Vendor		: The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter		: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter		: PC-Speaker - pcsp

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       3886300      1219216      2667084            0        79860
-/+ buffers:            1139356      2746944
Swap:      8294396            0      8294396
# 

[oldyeller]

Manual frugal install on a usb 16g

This is a very nice puppy that you have done. I only found one thing, When you exit the Rebuild Menu button does start the script.

I also like the savefolder that is different, but it is good, When I went to make the save file I thought I missed something since it did not ask what size I wanted my save file to be. Is there anything about that is the save process or any where else?

[James C]

Yet another frugal upgrade install on another old box. Upgrade went fine.

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: tahrpup, version 5.8.3.rc1

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
  Loaded modules: dbe dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

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# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
375 frames in 5.0 seconds = 74.911 FPS
372 frames in 5.0 seconds = 74.171 FPS
371 frames in 5.0 seconds = 74.200 FPS
371 frames in 5.0 seconds = 74.136 FPS
372 frames in 5.0 seconds = 74.382 FPS

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-Computer-
Processor		: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory		: 1027MB (308MB used)
Machine Type		: Physical machine
Operating System		: tahrpup - 5.8.3.rc1
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Sun 28 Sep 2014 04:23:38 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution		: 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor		: The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter		: VIA8233 - VIA 8235
Audio Adapter		: PC-Speaker - pcsp

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       1027916       915064       112852            0        65300
-/+ buffers:             849764       178152
Swap:      1228936            0      1228936
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[goolwa_pup]

when clicking on install then clicking on installation introduction website button i get

File not found

Pale Moon can't find the file at /usr/share/doc/installation.htm.

as it doesnt exist..

[gyro]

I also like the savefolder that is different, but it is good, When I went to make the save file I thought I missed something since it did not ask what size I wanted my save file to be. Is there anything about that is the save process or any where else?

A savefolder is an ordinary directory on your partition. And like any other directory, it's size is not configured anywhere.

gyro

[gcmartin]

Hello @OldYeller

... the savefolder that is different ... Is there anything about that is the save process or ...

@Gyro correctly points out that allowing TahrPup to use a savefolder versus a savefile allows most users to NEVER be affected by the maxsize of the old savefile technology. Your session changes are now contained in "a folder" instead of "the previously restricted file on other and older PUPs".

This upgrade to save-session technology, embraced by TahrPUP, was created by Puppy members, here, and should be available to ALL PUPs built using WOOF2 from this point on.

Hope this helps

[don570]

Shouldn't the defaultaudioplayer be deadbeef rather than vlc???

That is why pclock doesn't work properly when assigning a music alarm.
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[don570]

I compiled mhwaveedit 1.4.23 in tahr 583rc. It supports LADSPA effects and is
bug-free

Available HERE

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[live]

@666philb

Sorry, but I still think they are some tweaks, at least before thinking to replace Precise.

I quickly tested rc1 PAE and non PAE.
By the way, I propose that the boot screen is visually different than of Precise and PAE and non PAE version also have different boot screen, for instance mirror image, inverted colours

Reproducable crash with non-PAE vs PAE.
If I de-activate the wifi hardware on my laptop by toggling through F12 under Win7 and reboot than:
* if it's rc1 PAE, than if I tried to establish a WLAN connexion I get "Failed to activate interface 'wlan0'. Sometiles this is just a tempory problem". With retro Precise 5.7.1 same error. OK
* if it's rc1 non-PAE, as soon as I try through the simple connexion Wireless, I have a freeze, once I have a kernel crash. FYI also with beta3, but OK with retro Precise 5.7.1
* Note, I do not know how to re-activate my wifi, otherwise than reboot Win7.


Seems other hardware issues, but no time to check now.

Otherwise:
>lxrandr is in there ... shows up as 'monitor settings' in the system menu
Indeed, but I propose to rename the menu entry as "multiple monitors settings.

Propose to add:
xbatarlarm (works fine).

To allow:
Global Font size values greater than 108, indeed I wanted to propose to an old man tahr as a replacement for WinXp, but font are too small for his eyes. Note FatDog7 allows to enter your value.

The QuickPet tahr does not point as PPM to the latest available version, for instance Firefox 32.x vs 30.x

Update:
* SECURITY: bash....
https://www.debian.org/security/2014
* Gparted 0.16 -> 0.18
* pBurn (OK for me) http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=23881
* mhwaveedit (OK for me) http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=88036
* Regarding ntfs-3g, I use version 2014 for nearly a year with West & Easter characters documents, and OK for me.

Wish:
Would be nice to add thumbnails videos preview, as in puppy_Pupjibaro (you can change language to English to have a peek)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 15&t=92892

Getting near.

Thanks for your work

[rcrsn51]

The Puppy world would be simpler if builders would make some choices and stick with them. Pick one kernel. Pick PAE vs non-PAE. What are your plans for long-term support? If a version proves to be buggy, what will you do? Patch it? Remove it from distribution? Let it hang around forever?

[zagreb999]

TO LIVE!

TO REPLACE WINXP WITH TAHRPUP
WITH GREAT ZOOM, LARGE FONTS, PERFECT WIFI,
PLEASE, TAKE TAHRPUP WITH K.3.15-XFCE DESKTOP-
YUGO4.ISO, LINK:
------------------------
https://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_puppy-zagreb
-------------------------
THIS OS IS FANTASTIC!
BUT:
TO INSTALL ISO ,PLEASE, USE ONLY!!! UNETBOOTIN,
BEFORE IT YOU HAVE TO FORMAT DRIVE.
REGARDS.

[Volhout]

The Puppy world would be simpler if builders would make some choices and stick with them. Pick one kernel. Pick PAE vs non-PAE. What are your plans for long-term support? If a version proves to be buggy, what will you do? Patch it? Remove it from distribution? Let it hang around forever?

Don't you think 'derivatives" should be the playground, where everything is allowed ?

I fully agree with your vision for mainstream (official releases) puppy, but (correct me if I am wrong) there is not much movement in mainstream anymore since the mains dev's are becomming thin.

It is the derivatives that shed some light in the puppy darkness. Some of them may even be candidates for mainstream puppies. Such as TahrPup, especially because it breaks with some of the traditions for packages (i.e. VLC versus Mplayer)or the LxPup series from PeeBee (LXDE is simply more visually appealing than JWM, and works mor intiutive for someone used the MS in his job).

Anyway...puppy is as it is ...

[mavrothal]

It is the derivatives that shed some light in the puppy darkness. Some of them may even be candidates for mainstream puppies. Such as TahrPup,

I still have a hard time seeing which puppy, TahrPup is derivative of...

[rcrsn51]

My comment was in regards to live's situation where the retro version does not work the same way as the main version.

Puppy builders tend to throw out these alternate versions in the name of "choice" without subjecting them to adequate testing.

[mavrothal]

Puppy builders tend to throw out these alternate versions in the name of "choice" without subjecting them to adequate testing.

I always thought that retro is for the support of older hardware that modern kernels leave behind.
Testing wise I guess with so many options testing is running very thin. Is done usually by few people that test almost everything and thus only briefly.
That's why is always better to have a "final" release followed by a bug-fix release rather than multiple betas and RCs

[rcrsn51]

I always thought that retro is for the support of older hardware that modern kernels leave behind.

Here is my personal feeling on this issue. Older hardware should be supported by older, well-tested Puppies that were designed for that generation.

[666philb]

When you exit the Rebuild Menu button does start the script.

hi oldyeller, this is working for me ..... when you click the rebuild menu button, the logout screen should just disappear and the menu is rebuilt silently in the background.

[666philb]

when clicking on install then clicking on installation introduction website button i get
File not found

thanks added to tahrpup bug fix in quickpet

[666philb]

Shouldn't the defaultaudioplayer be deadbeef rather than vlc???

I compiled mhwaveedit 1.4.23 in tahr 583rc. It supports LADSPA effects and is
bug-free Cool

hi don570,
both rc1 isos have deadbeef as the default audio player.

thanks for mhwaveedit ... i've added to tahrpup bugfixes in quickpet

[666philb]

Sorry, but I still think they are some tweaks, at least before thinking to replace Precise.

hi live,

concerning your wifi, i found this post that may help in turning it on and off http://ns1.murga-projects.com/puppy/vie ... 187988c042
it's worth doing a search with google and also the forum, stating the make and model of the laptop and the problem,as there may be a simple fix that can be added.

lxrandr name changed fix in quickpet 'tahrbug fixes'
global font size (you can now select up to 150) fix in quickpet 'tahrbug fixes'
bash update ... fix in quickpet 'tahrbug fixes'
mhwaveedit updated in quickpet 'tahrbug fixes'
pburn has already been updated

xbatalarm will be added as an option in quickpet but i'm not including it as it seems to interfere with the puppy build process

gparted and ntfs-3g are being left at there current versions as they are working fine and updating them now could open up 'a can of worms' (a possibility for a future tahrpup)

rox video thumbnails ... i don't want to add this as on low end equipment a folder full of films can take a very long time for the video thumbnails to build causing the computer to lag.

quickpet will be updated ... eventually

thanks